QUOTE(eedwinc @ May 31 2021, 12:15 PM)
Hi, Anyone have seen drop in lifetime gains after payout? Is this normal? i.e. Yesterday the lifetime gains was rm0.45, today the lifetime gains drop to rm0.21
Did you take out half your capital?Investment Versa
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May 31 2021, 12:37 PM
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QUOTE(eedwinc @ May 31 2021, 12:15 PM) Hi, Anyone have seen drop in lifetime gains after payout? Is this normal? i.e. Yesterday the lifetime gains was rm0.45, today the lifetime gains drop to rm0.21 I didn't pay much attention to lifetime gains. But I keep track of the total balance and during payout it went up to RM20.xx which was a huge increase compared to previous payouts. I went to i-access since its the direct source right? It shows RM18.xx and then today Versa app today after payout now also shows RM18.xx. I'm sure whatever amount we see during payout isnt final and we can always verify it by login to i-access we need to. |
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Jun 1 2021, 12:47 AM
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Are the interest earned from VERSA taxable ?
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Jun 1 2021, 01:43 AM
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QUOTE(eedwinc @ May 31 2021, 12:15 PM) Hi, Anyone have seen drop in lifetime gains after payout? Is this normal? i.e. Yesterday the lifetime gains was rm0.45, today the lifetime gains drop to rm0.21 Yes, as this is due to the drop of unit price after payout, which will make it look like your gains "dropped'. |
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Jun 1 2021, 04:27 AM
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QUOTE(eedwinc @ May 31 2021, 12:15 PM) Hi, Anyone have seen drop in lifetime gains after payout? Is this normal? i.e. Yesterday the lifetime gains was rm0.45, today the lifetime gains drop to rm0.21 It is normal every fortnight after payout issued with lower adjusted NAV and increased unitsLifetime gains not good indicator look at your invested units versus the NAV price |
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Jun 1 2021, 10:32 AM
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What are the dates "when the units are cheaper" ?
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Jun 1 2021, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE(DragonReine @ Jun 1 2021, 01:45 AM) Yes, as this is due to the drop of unit price after payout, which will make it look like your gains "dropped'. If that is the case then in the event of the unit price dropped significantly, we will have the chance to even losing out some of our capital as well? |
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Jun 2 2021, 12:51 AM
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QUOTE(eedwinc @ Jun 1 2021, 02:08 PM) If that is the case then in the event of the unit price dropped significantly, we will have the chance to even losing out some of our capital as well? theoretically yes, but this will unlikely to happen.money market funds NAV while "fluctuates" in reality only goes up and down within a range of 3 decimal points and it's offset by the monthly or in this case every two weeks payout, which will provide compound gains. Functionally, it is about as risky as FD because Versa invests in FD, just at higher than usual rates because they invest in millions of ringgit. In any case, you shouldn't be using Versa for long term investment, because its interest rate is not even going to beat inflation in long term. perfectflow liked this post
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Jun 2 2021, 12:54 AM
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Jun 1 2021, 10:32 AM) The days after payout happens (usually middle of month and near end of month), but bear in mind it's only around 0.001 sen per unit difference, and it's offset by dividends payment anyway, so unless you are depositing in six-figures this shouldn't matter |
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Jun 1 2021, 10:32 AM) Every 2 weekends after payout with units price fluctuating between 1.1712 to 1.1713The key is to use it to gain the weekend overnight interest after payout and withdraw on Thursday after that Don’t expect much as every rm100 will gives you only rm0.01 interest which is useful only if you are disciplined not to spend on that particular weekend Daily unit changes are only rm0.00009 per unit hence don’t expect a lot because it is only 2.18% pa yearly and with payout and weekend overnight interest is another 0.9% additional if you know how to time it well |
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Just opened my VERSA account.... let's see if it's better than my FDs
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Jun 3 2021, 09:50 PM
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My first deposit is still In Transit since 03-June-2021.. what's going on ?
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Jun 9 2021, 10:44 AM
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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Jun 9 2021, 10:44 AM) nothing wrong As of today everything shows correctly... considered as deposit on 4 Jun 2021.it takes about 3 working days for the app to update --- 5-7 june are weekends+ph if not mistaken, fund already reflected in AHAM. Even received receipt from Affin-Hwang in my email. cybpsych liked this post
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Jun 9 2021, 08:58 PM) As of today everything shows correctly... considered as deposit on 4 Jun 2021. As long as the cut is after 2.30pm 4 June you stand earn overnight interest of rm0.01 for every rm100 on topEven received receipt from Affin-Hwang in my email. Payout will be this weekend and the next week will be lower price units again which is the cycle every fortnight |
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QUOTE(xander83 @ Jun 9 2021, 11:04 PM) As long as the cut is after 2.30pm 4 June you stand earn overnight interest of rm0.01 for every rm100 on top Is the overnight interest given daily like GO+ ?Payout will be this weekend and the next week will be lower price units again which is the cycle every fortnight |
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Jun 10 2021, 09:13 AM) Did you read Versa explanation of overnight interest? It's not the same as GO+. https://support.versa.com.my/hc/en-us/artic...night-interest- |
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