Indonesia reacted nicely to China threat. Meanwhile Malaysia still cannot prioritize national security vs songlap. We failed hard. No other explanation.

Please share the source. Do you know the cost ?

Thanks for the update.

This missile boat works great in huge numbers. Buying 2 typically means the intention to the learn the features and DIY build later on.

I don't understand your Queen English. Maybe you can try typing in Malay for me to understand.

Did you graduate from naval college ? Did they teach you this principle of missile boat usage ?

Old man like me already retired.

I know you are outsider. At least troll with style. Go read some naval strategy book and back with new dupe.

Initially I want to write long explanation on how naval vessel works but nevermind I am lazy to engage.

These are real world examples: 1973 Ramadan war, 1971 Indo-Pakistani war and current Iran missile boat in Strait of Hormuz, also Taiwan 2021 Ta Chiang and Tua Chiang classes. Taiwanese missile boats are designed to face China carrier group. They are part of puzzle pieces.

keywords for you to Google and learn:
-open sea vs littoral shallow water battle
-hide near islands and civilian boats
-ambush in a small group of 3 or more
-Indonesia geography. Also, since you are Malaysian, then learn about Malaysia geography and how naval vessel fit in our unique environment. Buying a destroyer and operate in certain area in Malaysia is a waste of money. More VLS does not mean better. Pro and con needs to be evaluated base on environment you are operating the war machine.

Missile boat/corvette like the French combattante and the ones Indonesia want to buy from Turkey actually are the missile boat done right. The vessel that American wanted to perfect as in their LCS. Unfortunately American cannot get those right.

About the defense white paper, that is essentially a wish list.

When the Japanese publishes the defense white paper, the cabinet and PM would support. Budget will be allocated. Procurement will be done according to the plan. They have very capable local contractors. Things that they don't have can ask US for help.

In Malaysia, they run thing differently. Prioritize own pocket. But that is not my point here.

ON paper they wish MY has proper homeland security, safe from air borne threat. So they propose medium range SAM. So stuff like Aster-30 and the like are the ideal asset they want the govt to buy.

Then they also would like the military to extend the "envelope of engagement" so that any conflict will happen far from homeland. Preferable somewhere in SCS.

That is on paper.

IN practice, the govt is sh*t. Our ship builder is sh*t as well. The real plan they gonna execute is, retreating to territorial water. Defending this only. They gonna leave EEZ. Station assets around territorial waters hoping that CCP will give face to us or the US already started pounding them before they are grabbing our EEZ.

In contrast, look at what Indonesia is buying. Large warship capable to operate around the edge of EEZ. Not a single inch of EEZ they are going to give CCP. This is the correct attitude.

MY is doomed if we have the same monkeys running the show.

Kedah class upgrade proposal

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original Kedah


deck enlarged


option 1, with adaptable deck launcher (same capability with Mk41 or Mk56 VLS). Should be able to carry 32 ESSM.


option 2, with traditional VLS

LMAO !!

Dey, stop announcing your ignorance and stupidity.

Do you know how data transmission works ? Teleport kah ?

OH MY, those brochure didn't include these info so you imagine the Indonesian armed forces a bunch of toddlers.