That's not the point, and the fact that you missed it is a big indicator what's the problem here...

Hahaha. No at all. The point is that You are missing the forests for the trees. Be more inclusive.

Read more: https://www.flightglobal.com/defence/jakart.../145049.article

Okay whatever floats your boat

Silly man. You are unwitingly revealing your insecurity abt everything Sg. It is clear that you are obessed with Sg being ahead. Every discussion has to be abt why Sg is ahead and you naturally spill the beans.

A lazy and spoilt person like you obviously will not understand the genesis behind the term kiasu. No wonder you revel being left behind by the world

Come on Klthinker

Ive seen enough hubris and unfairness to last a life time so i left to be elsewhere. Im trying to help you rise above the miasma of confusion and chains holding us back home. Ill leave it at that.

The way you're doing it is not right, and I think you probably have more pressing personal matters that you should spend time on.

Why shoud i feel insecure about SG?
If I can feel secure about ID....hahaha.

It is obvious that Sg is the one who feel insecure with what the neighbours have or going to have. No need an exoert to say that Sg defence is rely on far more advanced hardware, doesnt it?
It is so funny how you show it with kiasu mentality.

Let me try and sort out your oxymoronic reply. You are insecure about SG and Indo. Hence you pit Sg versus Indo (nevermind the fact that Sg and Indo are close friends and partners; closer than Msia-SG).

You are not an expert but you r clear minded that Sgs defence relies on advanced hardware (not that there is anything wrong with that or any othet country which upgrades its hardware!).

Oh yeah..you still dont get what kiasu means. What does it mean?

Hahahaha....what ever you need to tell yourself

I dont get what u r getting act. Countries in SEA are officially non-aligned - to either China or US. Yes, some lean more to China or US contingent on their respective self interests (good or bad) which are actually transient (so there can be changes.) But no one in SEA wants to be forced to choose between US and China. It is just bad for security and trade. Who are the largest investors in ASEAN? US, China, Japan and Singapore.  ASEAN wants a benign China and a matured and non-confrontational relationship btw China, US and Japan so that SEA countries are not forced to choose sides. Not easy. We can try to influence but ASEAN is fractured and many countries in ASEAN are dysfunctional internally including Msia. So our words dont carry much weight. How do get external powers 2 take us seriously? Build up our defence capabilities so that we have a greater combined gravitas. It means that countries like Msia, Indo, Thai, etc. need to be up the ante on defence.

Your friend up there is stuck with an infantile fantasy of country x versus country y scenario from video games - youd think hed grow up?

[Exclusive] Applying ‘stealth paint’ to ‘KF-21 Boramae’

Reporter Shin, Shin | Input 2021-08-13 03:10:00



It is known that the first domestic fighter 'KF-21 Boramae', the prototype of which was unveiled in April of this year, is highly likely to have some stealth performance. Last year, the domestic stealth paint development was completed and the performance was proven, so they plan to apply it before mass production of the KF-21. 

According to a related source on the 10th, the development of a paint with radio wave absorption function (RAM paint) that Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) entrusted with a research service entrusted to a private company was completed last year and its performance was recognized in the subsequent evaluation. The source said, "We are in the stage of applying (paint technology)." It is said that the performance will be verified by applying paint to the prototype in the process of developing the KF-21, which will undergo 2,200 flight tests over 4 years from July next year after ground testing. 

The paint applied to the surface of the fuselage is the core technology of the stealth aircraft, along with the internal weapon window and the infrared emission suppression engine. The reason that the authorities initially started developing paints in Korea was because it was not easy to introduce them overseas due to technology leakage. Authorities believe that this domestically developed paint will greatly reduce the 'detection rate', which reduces the possibility of being detected by enemy radar.

29/06/2021

Indonesian defence minister appoints Qatar defense lobbyist in Washington to speed up defence deals

Consultant Christopher Ott, who represents the Qatari defence conglomerate Barzan in Washington, has been hired to facilitate US defence sales to Jakarta, whose position has become strategic in the context of growing tensions with China.

Issue dated 26/07/2021

Indonesian defense set to visit Washington to discuss arms deals

Prabowo Subianto's American lobbyists are making plans for the Indonesian defense minister to visit Washington, as Jakarta seeks to increase its rearmament programme against an assertive China.

Kaplan MT with a new front design.

for something that costs 7.5 million dollars each, to have armor that just can take hits from 30mm shells is so lame.

congratulations indonesia for the new tank, but every other countries are better off getting cheap T-90, VT-4 or even upgraded Type 59G tanks with better protection.

for the same amount of money, 100 Type 59G would be a better bet than say just 12-18 Kaplan MT.

The serial production Kaplan tank will appear at IDEF.

At the fair, the serial production configuration of the Kaplan MT, the first vehicle exported by the Turkish defense industry in the tank class, will be introduced.

Göksel Yildirim |15.08.2021

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Kaplan MT (Indonesia : Harimau), the first vehicle exported by the Turkish defense industry in the tank class, will be exhibited at the 15th International Defense Industry Fair (IDEF 2021) with its serial production configuration.

According to the information obtained by the AA correspondent, FNSS, the armored land vehicle manufacturer of the Turkish defense industry, will make a strong participation in IDEF 2021, which will be held on August 17-20 with the armored communication vehicles in its product portfolio.

Among the vehicles to be exhibited by FNSS, there will be the medium weight class Kaplan MT tank. IDEF fairs witnessed important developments for Kaplan MT. The launch of Kaplan MT in 2017 and a co-production contract with PT Pindad was signed in 2019 to meet the needs of the Indonesian army. At IDEF 2021, this time the serial production configuration of the tank will be introduced.

The design perfection work for Kaplan MT, which was developed within the scope of the project where FNSS successfully applied the technology transfer model to PT Pindad, and for which a serial production contract was signed after the prototype period tests were concluded, has been completed.

Kaplan MT successfully passed the endurance and firing tests carried out in Turkey and Indonesia during the prototype period. With the entry into force of Kaplan MT's co-production contract signed in 2019, mass production work has begun at FNSS facilities. Under the contract, 18 Kaplan MT tanks will be produced. The first 10 tanks will be produced in Turkey, and the remaining 8 tanks will be produced in Indonesia.

Body design changed

Many improvements were made to the tank during the transition from prototype to mass production. In this context, driver visibility and handling ergonomics have been improved. The body design was perfected in line with the feedback from the end user.

Based on the experience gained from the tests, improvements were made in the tower system, power transmission group, cooling system and suspension system.

The first leg of the first vehicle acceptance tests was completed in Turkey with customer participation. After the final acceptances in Indonesia by the end of the year, the first vehicle will be delivered to the army of this country.

The production of the remaining vehicles in the project continues. Towards the end of the year, the acceptance of these vehicles will start and will continue in 2022.

Kaplan MT Project draws attention as the first project initiated and concluded within the framework of the "Defense Industry Cooperation Agreements" signed between Indonesia and Turkey, as well as being the first export contract signed by Turkey in the medium weight tank class.

Honestly l would prefer Indonesia bought another batch of secondhand Leopard 2s. Indonesia bought the ex-Swiss Pz87 from Rheinmetall iirc at a price of USD 900.000 each. The problem is there is no more secondhand Leopard 2s available in the market.

The Kaplan MTs are intended to replace the outdated AMX-13.