Hope our TUDM will get the replacement soon. Is the Mig29 still proceed with upgrade plan?

MiG29 besi buruk already

If MY wanted old hornet or old F16, we would had done so.
There's plenty of 'friends' who wanted to give us stuff from Blackhawks to self propelled howatzer. But we never did take on the offer. We wanted new toys. Maintaining old stuff is not in our culture. Not to mention it's not a replacement it's an additional, so we would be wasting money training people for a stopgap. So that's why we never did.

MY bought the hawk & hornet simply because that's what Australia,Canada & USN use. We don't have much money to buy missiles,but if we use the same jet as them, in time of emergency we can at least beg for missiles.So we won't be buying the f35 because of it stealth, just like we/RCAF/RAAF bought the F18 because it could land on carrier.We bought it simply because USN bought it.

ROKAF & RSAF are closer to USAF, so they use the same toys as them.

You could get it. If you give up on your Sukhoi & chinese missiles.

It's a jet that couldn't shoot. But good enough as a awac & Sigint replacement. But it also couldn't be upgraded. You sure you wanna blow your money on it?

This post has been edited by darth5zaft: Jun 4 2021, 05:52 PM

More like they won't sell it to us until we give up on our Sukhoi.
But our Sukhoi are only 10 years old & our hornet can still fly for 10 more years. That's why the target is 2030.

But F35 are useless as an interceptor or close air support though. Not to mention it kinda useless jet to use against Chinese & Russian. So it not just her Allies, even US themselves are cutting order for the f35.

There's a reason why they mate a Gripen C body to a hornet head & call it T7. It won't take that much work to mate a Gripen E body to a advance super hornet head and get the rumored kingsnake.

Not to mention now they already have the T7. It would be quiet impossible for us to get the fa-50. They would drag their feet at the approval stage due to murican tech in the fa-50 just like they did to other prospective Griffon buyers.

https://www.intelligenceonline.com/internat...r,109670990-art

True

Too much anti yehudee rhetoric

Even aim 120 missile they refuse to sell

Our hornet plane disadvantage

if not mistaken TUDM already got thirty AIM-120C5 and AIM-120C7

F35 is not F22.
F35 is made to be sold to US allies and friend. MY is friend while SG is Ally. All alies nations are very important is some ways because they will support US policy and interest. All aliies nation will be given priority and "full package" in US weapon system'. The luxury of US friend nations will not have.

All production of F35 are given to US and her allies at the moment. That is not a bad thing for MY. IMO, only F35 block 10 is considered a "full" ready in combat. Sadly even US will dump early F35 production that they received rather than upgrade it.
But even if F35 block 10 is already produced, it doesnt mean that MY can get it. All US friend will get "less" than her allies. Maybe MY can get the block 10 after block 20 is produced.

At this moment we don't know exactly how effective is F35 against Russia/China srealth fighter. There are many analysis but on paper only.

I don't think we should be too choosy on LIFT/LCA. No need for gold plated one, just check list all the RMAF requirements. RMAF needs LCA more than MRCA. The problem is RMAF is now in need to replace The Migs.

This post has been edited by Lampuajaib: Jun 5 2021, 08:40 AM

Got sos ?

The laughable part is even if f 35 was offered to us

We cannot afford it

SIPRI trade register

a simple google can answer that
why need to ask /k

2 aim-120 on rmaf f-18 dual launcher rack

We can't even afford a $70 mil jet?
If you going to say we can't afford the eurofighter or Rafale, I would agree with you. But really, can't even afford a f35? Really?

considering a basic jet like Fa-50 with BVR capabilities would cost $50 mil ie 70% of F35 price. Heck let cross out Gripen as well, surely we can't afford that one either.


Well let's all bow down to our new communist overlords then.


Why do people have to put f35 on a pedestal? It's basically a F16 with a heavy make-up on. Their sales numbers are a results of arms twisting rather than on merit. The only one who adopted it are USAF, knowing fully well no one would invade them. People who actually go to war like USN doesn't want it. They rather fly the hornet.

All that marketing talk about it being a supercomputer that can fly. Well Gripen are also a super computer that can fly. Almost all jet these day are really.

3% of it stealth comes from it coating. And they rather handicapped the jet rather than scrapping off that damn thing. The other 7% comes from internally build sensor encased in fragile plastic. Their high operational cost is mostly due to it. Most jet don't go around flying with jamming & targeting pot attached all the time. If other jet do it, it would cost the same as well.

90% of it stealth comes from it un aerodynamics shape which they supplement by putting in a big fat but unreliable engine. It just an attempt to redirect the Russian & chinese to put together their own un aerodynamics flying matchbox knowing fully well that's Russian & chinese has bad to horrible engine & would never get it to fly. Well. joke on the US side as both are bright enough and doesn't do it. The Su57 & j20 are just public showpiece for tradeshow not meant for war.

SG paid abt USD115mil or SGD150 mil back in 2020 for their F-35Bs..... We cannot afford those cost la.... We paid our Mig and Su via palm oil also which I don't think any EU or America will accept it.... If we die die wanna to barter trade palm oil for jets... Maybe Russia or China might keen

TUDM sukhoi mkm and f-18d all got BVR missiles edi la bro...

New CN235-220 MPA for the Indonesian Navy currently undergoing testing at PTDI facility. Credit to PTDI.

I was.reply to a poster that wanted f 35 n say usa wont sell to us.

What u talkin ?

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