which country are you from?

TLDM is using DARDO 40mm, bofors 40mm and bofors 57mm for close in air defence.

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more pictures of TUDM F/A-18D in Bersama Gold 2021

looks like Super Hornet to me.

Looking back at the pictures, yeah it does look like RAAF F/A-18F super hornets.

Depends i guess

If you consider 30mm mk44 bushmaster as some kind of CIWS then they do have one.

This post has been edited by darth5zaft: Oct 11 2021, 11:36 AM

Another country going for the TB2.

U r even more dumbass

U can't see those missile silos protruding out ?

Ever see any Russian or West submarine look like that ?

U must have studied science at China institute of tau foo dumbass

Dumb wumao hybrid ass

This post has been edited by Maria Takagi: Oct 11 2021, 06:35 PM

Bruh

This is a Delta IV submarine, mainstay of the Russian fleet

Same "hump" is there what. Apa problem?

No match to cwis and goalkeeper

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Let just forget about TB2.
Our primary security concerns is borders protection & to buy some deterrence from a freaking super power who do low intensity conflicts.


We are not really trying to hunt down tanks nor non state actors nor s400 battery. What we want to do is mostly Hunt down pati & increase the accuracy of firepower to blow away invading ship.

https://mymilitarytimes.com/index.php/2021/...shammuddin/amp/

Drone no matter how expensive are just a dumb flying camera.and funny enough we do the world best drone base remote sensing companies.

https://vulcanpost.com/763444/aerodyne-mala...providers-2021/

What we wanted is just to use off the shelf cheap drone to be automated and run by AI & algorithm to go round the border and allert operators if they sense something suspicious and has quick response team in the ground & sea to combat it. Next is to simulate those PATI landing as invasion and thus write AI to calculate and redirect the firepower from such landing.

Afterwards is to write the AI to hunt down insurgence in jungle, estate by training it to hunt down pochers finally write AI to use those drone for increase situational awareness in raids.

As for deterrence against a freaking super power. Well that's just way above our pay grades. just go buy something out there off the shelf with a good industrial tradeoff & strengthen military alliance. If they going to land they are not going to be deterred by a TB2.





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This post has been edited by darth5zaft: Oct 12 2021, 03:16 AM

Dardo, the 1st pic, is a CIWS (Close In Weapon System) of about the same generation as Goalkeeper, and it outranges Goalkeeper

Although to be fair in more recent pics of the Laksamanas I see the system seems to have been removed. In storage or decommissioned, I wonder.

This post has been edited by KLthinker91: Oct 12 2021, 01:41 AM

Kedah class upgrade proposal

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original Kedah


deck enlarged


option 1, with adaptable deck launcher (same capability with Mk41 or Mk56 VLS). Should be able to carry 32 ESSM.


option 2, with traditional VLS

Questions about your proposal.

1. top deck weight.
That area is designed to have just 1 RAM launcher of about 6tons of weight. Adding a total of nearly 30tons of weight (5 times the designed weight of that area) will seriously alter the ships balance. The ship would be bow heavy, and momentum of such heavy weight at that height will worsen the ship roll and pitch behavior.

1 RAM launcher = 6tons
1 Adaptable Deck Launcher = 7.5tons, 2 of them 15tons
8 Exocet missiles + launcher = 8tons

total of at least 29tons of weight


2. Area.
At most, the area is about 15m in length. As the area is at the bow, the width tapers towards the 76mm gun. So the minimum width is just around 6-7m. A single adaptable deck launcher size is 7.2m x 3.9m x 3.1m. You cannot fit RAM + Adaptable Deck Launcher + Exocet/NSM in that area. There is no space.


3. Putting Mk41 VLS.
Mk41 VLS shortest height is 5.2m and weighs 12.2t for the 8 cell version. A lot of things you need to remove, at least 2 decks below.


4. Shooting ESSM to the side.
You need a lot of extra space to shoot it, if you don't want to hit other ships.

Those DARDOs are still on the Laksamanas. Only the OTOMATs are removed, and the ASPIDE (sea sparrow) inop.

If we want to go for Type 31, to save money we can remove DARDOs and 76mm oto melaras from the laksamana class to fit them to the future Type 31 frigates.

Video of KD Laksamana Tun Abdul Jamil taken this year, still with DARDO

This post has been edited by alexz23: Oct 12 2021, 11:08 AM

This modification would entail opening up the hull I believe

The Dardo is still on the Laksamana but it seems the CIWS fire control radar has been removed, so maybe it operates in manually-controlled gun mode now?

This post has been edited by KLthinker91: Oct 12 2021, 11:11 AM

modification for what, are you talking about.

Exactly why long endurance drones like TB2 is ideal. Cheap, only need a budget of 70 million dollars for a whole squadron, unlike going for expensive corvettes.



TB2 is cheap. TB2 is off the shelf

Also TB2 has long endurance of 25 hours. The off the shelf cheap drone that we need to use is the TB2.



This post has been edited by alexz23: Oct 12 2021, 11:36 AM

Your suggestion to mount the 76mm and 40mm guns on Type 31

You would have to clear that with the manufacturers of the ship and weapon system, and integrate the associated radars and power etc with the Type 31 internal architecture.

The 40mm mounting just needs deckspace if I'm not mistaken, but the 76mm Oto is a deck-penetrating mount so the builders will have to ensure it can fit the space inside. Shouldn't be a problem I think but just to tell you, it's not a "strap-on" like Phalanx...

???

They already have space for 76mm guns. Danish frigates even put up 2x 76mm guns up front.








For TLDM type 31, we could put

2x 76mm up front, 1x 40mm DARDO on the rear hangar location.

or

1x 76mm up front, 1x 40mm DARDO up front, 1x 40mm DARDO on the rear hangar location

It would save money of course. Although both weapon systems need upgrading to make full use of their capabilities.

But I'm done playing fantasy fleets