Having expeditionary capabilities is not about transporting equipment by land and sea. It is about sustained power projection over vast distances and the ability to up the ante with full scale military strikes. That requires a whole gamut of land, air and sea equipment and capabilities encompassing strike, sensor integration, time on target kill box assignments,  large real time surveillanve, etc. Most importantly is the financial resilience to back such endeavours which can cost hundreds of millions of USD or billions. Australia which had a significant but smaller deployment (relative to the US) in Afghanistan spent over $USD 10 billion at least over a couple of years. The US spent over $USD 2 trillion. Sgs Operation Flying Eagle 2 help Indonesia after the Asian Tsunami costs over USD $1 billion then and this was a humanitarian operation lasting for a month or so.

A400M, starstreak, md530g and lipanbara we can just buy them without any complicated procedures, so why can't we do the same with FA-50?

Thought a Korean news mentioned TUDM wanted a BVR capable LCA & the FA50 aren't capable of it?

Personally doubt anyone else can offer a better deal then m346.
Since it's capable of BVR out of the box with 7 or something jet being free.

HAL claimed they had signed a MOU with MMTC. MMTC will buy palm oil from Malaysia for LCA Tejas barter trade for RMAF LCA Project.

MMTC to buy Palm Oil for LCA Tejas barter deal with Malaysia: HAL

From the study.

It is concluded that

M346 only has 50% of the capability of a real fighter like Typhoon

FA-50 90%

Gripen 95%

Interesting there is only 5% difference in capability between FA-50 and gripen while the cost of gripen is double of the FA-50

FA-50 Block 20 is in development, will have BVR capability, along with targeting pods and probe for air to air refueling.

https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/def...50-golden-eagle

https://www.bloomberg.com/press-releases/20...e-for-kai-fa-50

define "the real MRCA". KFX?

You're asking why Korea need twin-engine less-observable medium fighter if their plan to upgrade single-engine light fighter is so great... um, maybe because they want 2 different planes for 2 different roles?

Lockheed Martin C-130J-30 Super Hercules
Read more: https://www.defensenews.com/global/asia-pac...-from-lockheed/

Read more: https://defencesecurityasia.com/tudm-terus-...ahun-2035-2040/

A half OPV half Corvette like the RSN LMV doesn't really sounds all that bad.

Basically just a vehicle to carry those MICA around to shoot stuff flying on the EEZ with the added benefits of using it as PV & mines countermeasures or such.

Thought it does sound like a restructuring of 15 2 5 program since putting weapon on ship they wish to retired in 5 years doesn't sound like a bright ideas. Would probably worth it if they intend to use it for another 15 years.

Since words on the street the rebooted LMS is pretty much the size and capabilities of the Kedah class. Seems like a merging of both the 18 OPV & 18 LMS into a single program would take place.
NSM probably better be put on a truck kot? Since truck are a lot faster than a ship and pan Borneo is a thing.

More of a similar concept to LMV. In which it prioritize air defense. Not really about getting those Saab designs LMV.

ID vast territories + being an archipelago + underdeveloped land transportation network means they need more ASuW Corvette/fast attack boat. As for us,it's probably cheaper,faster, easier to just shoot those ASuW missiles from land.

Personally have no problem if RMN want to adopt RSN strategy. It make guessing what they going to do next easier. If they are apeing it, i can confidently say the next RMN ship after rebooted LMS is a Multi Role Combat Ship & MMEA going to get the OPV

Source reported that Indonesian Navy is to sign contract for 2 units Fast Attack Missile Boats 68 meter from Turkey. Budget already been approved by the MoF and waiting execution from the MoD. The source also repoterd the FAMB is likely the GMFPB 67 from TAIS Shipyard.



https://www.taisshipyards.com/en/gmfpb-guid...-patrol-boat-67

RMAF Excercise ABABIL 2021.





https://mymilitarytimes.com/index.php/2021/...diness-of-rmaf/

At 325 ton it's basically the same size as bagan datuk isn't it?

There's nothing wrong with buying this Damen as the 2nd batch of NGPC since MMEA still need 8 of it. There's also nothing wrong with MMEA working beside Navy LCS nor nothing wrong with MMEA having military grade weapon.

So case close. Let's move on.

congratulations to Indonesia

those are very good frigates.

Still waiting to see the plan on how PT PAL would build 6 FREMM and 2 Arrowhead 140 all at the same time.
This also should be a big wake-up call for Malaysia not to procrastinate and just get the Gowinds completed whatever it costs. And a wake-up call for the leadership of TLDM to stop planning for corvettes, OPVs or RLMS.

A question to ponder.

Is the blaming game much more important than the survival of Malaysia as a country?

Can you politicians and military leaders sleep at night knowing that we don't have anything close to those FREMMs and Arrowhead 140s?

Indonesia lately so aggressive in modernizing their military equipment even under the Pandemic time !!!!! Whereas Our Country - Aggressive in Political !!!!!

why does indonesia go for so many variant of Frigate ?
Italy FREMM , Danish Iver Huitfeldt and now British Arrowhead 140 ?

The Formidable Class of Singapore 3200 tons is actually smaller version of French La Fayette class 6000 tons also built by Naval Group (same company that built and design Gowind Maharaja lela)

Even Singapore ST Marine Engineering, they are very advanced in building vessel, never dare not  take all change design vessel all built all in Singapore.

Instead they  built one in Naval Group France and 5 in ST Marine Engineering. Why do that? Let your local engineers learn on the site.

Note only buy blue print only cannot  built warship. If can do that better buy mercedes, bmw and F35 blue print and make here. Not that easy. Blue print is not eveeything.

The 1st vessel RSS Formidable was comissioned in 2007. The after that every year, 2 vessels.

Formidable class are more potent stealth ship

1) use Thales Herakles Pesa Radar (stronger)
2) Have 32 Aster 15 + Aster 30 Vls for air defence
3) Harpoon
4) Anti submarine torpedoe
5) Heli
6) Ciws