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post Mar 31 2021, 06:35 PM, updated 5y ago

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so i saw this video on youtube about the salesman that crashed a customer's proton x50, but now got continued setori liao
couldnt find a topic about this, but if im selow pls let me know so can kolos
original tered: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=5115783&hl=

tldw or those dunwan support geng bobby:
1) this youtuber made a video basically saying all those things in the tered. he felt pressured to make video because the girl that sold the x50 is his friend
2) the SA that crashed the x50, his FRIEND saw the video and got in contact with the youtuber. say the story not 100% true
3) his friend claim that the SA go to karak because when type in the address in waze, got 2 different route. one going normal way and one going via karak
4) his friend also claim that the SA didnt go upto 180kmph because in those type of road is impossible. max he go is 100kmph
5) his friend also also claim that the SA crash not because driving fast, but because landslide and so he crash into the ditch
6) lastly, his friend claiming that the reason why both the SA and the girl didnt drive together is because of merajuk or fight or something la dunno
7) the SA that crashed the x50 is keeping quiet because he's dealing with the situation and up until the customer get his BRAND NEW x50, then only he will address everything

u guys can figure out the story yourselves la. but one thing im worndering is why is the friend getting in contact with the youtuber and speaking for the SA lmao. say not trying to defend but u pretty much give out the whole case leh. if end up this guy kena sued he sure lose his defense liao.


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post Mar 31 2021, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Mar 31 2021, 06:47 PM)
He drove at 180 not at the accident site but on the highway, he admitted that on the early post

That waze story is bullshit, already check, no such thing as same place 2 diff states
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yeah thats what i was thinking as well
pretty much everything that the friend is claiming is "he say she say"
no solid proof or evidence at all, cant even begin to prove to be factual

again, if this case goes to court, with this type of defense, gg that guy
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post Mar 31 2021, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Mar 31 2021, 06:57 PM)
Cerita lain I tak mahu dengar, i mahu tahu, why the salesman decided go alone, when it was agreed earlier that Puteri and the salesman were to drive in a convoy from the showroom to JB ?
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his friend claim sebab got disagreement between the SA and the girl
they got into a fight, then merajuk, then say nvm la drive to johor and take bus home lorr

emotional type of stuff, the court be like mega_shok.gif
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post Mar 31 2021, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(Lucas0323 @ Mar 31 2021, 06:59 PM)
I tot this thread is to inform who gonna pay for it.
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in terms of the customer, he oredy agreed to proton giving a brand new x50
so chassis number is just going to be changed, but loan and everything still jalan

in terms of Proton vs the SA, that one will be determined in the next following weeks/months
they are apparently dealing with the SA now as he has returned to the KL HQ to bring his statement(s)
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post Mar 31 2021, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(kevin23 @ Mar 31 2021, 06:59 PM)
No matter what waze bring you wrong or what shit, from KL to go Johor, the salesman should have some common sense that going up karak is not the way to go Johor. If u say go Ipoh, maybe can still belip. But go to Johor? Its totally different direction lah

If that oso the SA duno, then hes gotta be the stupidest SA ever
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yes exactly
same as what the youtuber said in his video

if say what the SA is saying is true, then why he didnt cancel the waze journey when he saw on the signboards that he was going in the literal opposite direction?
he can easily just pull over to the side of the road, R&R, petrol station or whatever, change the route on waze to the correct one and go on the proper route.
but he didnt, he refused to do this all the way to karak from KL
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post Mar 31 2021, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(rd33 @ Mar 31 2021, 07:09 PM)
Proton can just ask SA sign contract work with proton for few years and cut salary monthly or no bonus/increment until x50 paid in full.

Or if the SA can get many sales until its paid off his debt can walk away.

But depends on SA if he gonna do it or not.

Anyhow proton cannot claim insurance? Maybe its rare case SA drive customer car and accident but i still think there is high risk on that and proton or car seller should have insurance to cover that.
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i doubt that would be a good solution as that would mean they will need to terminate his existing contact and put forth a new contract just for this case alone
a better way is for them to let him keep his contract (if they decide to not terminate him) and bring forth a new contract in terms of method of payment to reimburse the showroom for the loss of the x50 (since lawfully its still currently the showroom's property)

idk if the showroom can claim insurance, but nevertheless, money has been spent and reputations have been tarnished. dunno if people will look at that dealership the same way again. someone needs to be held accountable and pay some bills. so in terms of that, i think thats what the dealership is currently figuring out

a huge headache man. i am thanking every god in existence that im not in the guy's shoes. regardless if he's in the wrong or right
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post Mar 31 2021, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(sabrina222 @ Mar 31 2021, 07:35 PM)
So in the end the driver need to pay the car price? Or claim insurance
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he doesnt have to power to claim insurance because the crashed x50 is the dealership's property
if someone wants to claim insurance, it would be the dealership. no news of that decision so far.
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post Mar 31 2021, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(ihm11 @ Mar 31 2021, 07:47 PM)
>dereliction of duty
>employer has to make gud n make full compensation to customer
>full stop

his cool setori trying to deflect n lessen responsibility does not change the facts of the matter
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his friend should have just kept quiet man
really made the situation worse for the SA

the SA himself doing the right thing when kena viralkan, just keep quiet
u know i know la...mereisian...viral story but 2 weeks later no one will care anymore since no new news

but now the friend think doing a good deed for the SA, but actually its giving more ammo and re-erecting the story for people to discuss
im now waiting for the SA to make a statement to say "thats not my friend" or "friend kena hacked" or "my friend lying"
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post Mar 31 2021, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Mar 31 2021, 09:35 PM)
I thought it was settled already ? No ?

Yes you are correct its the dealership's problem now and whether insurance will cover this case is anyone's guess or how is the dealer going to resolve this with the SA is anyone's guess too but who cares.

I remember reading something like Proton will send a new X50 to customer again once the paperwork is completed. However it did not specify if the same dealership would be involve or a new dealer.
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yes the customer is getting a brand new x50, the loan and everything will reflect on the new chassis; but everything still jalan
in terms of if the car being replaced is from the same dealership, i would say that it most likely would be. since lawfully the customer and this particular Proton dealership are the ones doing business.
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post Mar 31 2021, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Mar 31 2021, 09:42 PM)
Had no idea you are waiting for the SA defence. I don't think I will want to listen to anything that he has to say.
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interesting story ma
have to find out got good ending anot

if the SA is smart he will just diam until forever
which i think most likely he will do since he's smart enough to stay out of the limelight when this story was at its peak viral-ness
he would be dumb asf if he made a public statement. there's no way he can pusing this to turn into his favor. he doesnt owe the public anything. so should just diam

btw SA, i know youre reading this. icon_idea.gif
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post Mar 31 2021, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Mar 31 2021, 10:20 PM)
Here comes the interesting part, I've read somewhere that insurance party might not get involved either since the accident took place at night which does not fall in the hours of operation and add in the saucy details of Karak etc etc, if you insurer you want to accept this ke ? I think the dealership will have to absorb the loss in the end. How they wish to split the loss between themselves and the SA is between themselves.
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wow that's actually quite interesting, didnt think about that.

i also read that due to this issue, the industry itself will change so that this doesnt happen ever again in the future.
so if the customer wants their car to be delivered, need to fill out more forms to reduce risks by the dealership, need to agree on route, need to be within certain kilometers, etc etc

also effects SA as well, if they want to take out dealership cars, need to fill out more forms, more tnc stuff, more legally binding stuff, have to check in check out, within certain kilo from dealership. especially those SA and colleagues in glenmarie where they take out dealership cars to go out and makan.

test drive also will kena liao. potential customers before test drive must fill out more forms. ic + driving lese + release form, not enough (not legally binding enough), so they changing policies to reduce as much risk as possible

this guy singlehandedly changed the entire industry overnight
many SA now condemning this guy
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post Mar 31 2021, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(bobowyc @ Mar 31 2021, 10:25 PM)
In the last video the youtuber said the SA already arrange to replace another X50 for the customer. So i think that concluded it la. lol. nothing more to say or do anymore. except wait for another video. lol
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the customer just want to conclude his side only la
the story too hot liao. his number plate oredy on the car + big viral story + reckless driving. like some /ktards detektives la he scared people reverse search his plate and his details come out but he do no wrong

mind you, the girl SA is the one who viralkan the story because things were not getting handled properly.
after viralkan, then only everyone panic and reached settlement ASAP

now that the customer is going to get his brand new car, he happy oredy. as far as he knows he's getting what he paid for

now the new story is WHO is going to be paying for the x50. most likely we will never know, because this is a matter between the Proton dealership and the SA who crashed the x50.
these are the only two parties that have the answer, and i seriously doubt either of them will release the settlement to the public
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post Mar 31 2021, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(Roman Catholic @ Mar 31 2021, 10:34 PM)
Fuh power sial SA tu, "... already arrange to replace another X50." 😂😂😂
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more likely the dealership came to the settlement to give the customer a brand new x50 to avoid lawsuit
they know that the customer has the ability to take the proton dealership to court over the hassle, could have gotten 20x x50's if the customer really wanted to

make the case saying "i did everything right, loan deposit everything approved. waiting damn long for a car, now suddenly viralkan, my plate been viewed by half of the country. im scared people release my details and hurt my family, i need compensation to deal with this trauma"
something like this

the dealership didnt want to get to until like this, i guess the customer didnt want to fight this case either. or maybe the customer didnt know his legal rights since iirc he's born in 1997 or 1995 or something like that.

 

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