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chamelion
post Mar 25 2021, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(Rudd @ Mar 25 2021, 01:42 AM)
what happen after lease period over.
state can take back the land, what about our house?
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After the lease period over, the owner needs to renew it.
The rate is base on the location of the land.

If you go to PJ old town, you see a lot of vacant bungalows and houses. The reason is most of those houses owner have moved out but the house is not desirable in the market as it is at the very end of the lease. It will depreciate a lot for the buyer.

The renewal rate is between RM60k-250k.

That means if you buy the bungalow at RM1.8mil, you need to add say RM150k cash for renewing the lease within 10 years.

The actual house own value will be RM1.8mil + RM150k* + (time u own the house x 5% of RM150k)**.

*if you borrow the RM150k, then you also need to add interest from the loan.
**Rough way to calculate the loss of gain from interest.

Also, the paper value of the house is RM1.8mil, the bank will only borrow you 1.8Mil at max (which is not likely at all...).

No one who understands this will want to pay ~RM2mil to stay in an RM1.8mil house since there is a lot of property supply in msia...

This post has been edited by chamelion: Mar 25 2021, 11:39 PM
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post Mar 25 2021, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(MAC5 @ Mar 25 2021, 11:09 PM)
For high rise, it is the land underneath matters most.

For leasehold landed, individual owner can apply to renew the lease.

Whereas for high rise, I guess you need to get agreement from all unit owners before you can renew the lease. If one owner does not agree, then cannot proceed. Anyone can clarify this?
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Normally is a strata title. The title is held by a legally appointed representative body. If the owner does not pay, he can be sue and need to pay all interest because he already agrees with the term during purchase.
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post Mar 26 2021, 07:49 AM

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QUOTE(Ayammachiamboss @ Mar 26 2021, 01:37 AM)
Does that mean if you do get the approval to renew your lease, you have to pay at least 2 mil for it?
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You pay RM2mil from your pocket.
RM1.8 for house and ~RM200k (If you calculate in detail, it might higher) for leasing fee.
Generally, gov allow lease renewal with no issue.

It is also an issue if you want to sell. You have to wait the appreciation of RM200k + the normal loan interest and fee to avoid lost.

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post Mar 26 2021, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Mar 26 2021, 10:46 AM)
Huh?

Since when you need to re-buy the house?

Just pay the lease extension la... as for his calculation of RM150k to extend the lease.. he pull the number out of thin air..

for example

https://www.edgeprop.my/content/lease-renewal-just-rm1000
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QUOTE(StupidGuyPlayComp @ Mar 26 2021, 10:57 AM)
Only 1k, not 150k. The owner smile to the sky
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QUOTE(Ayammachiamboss @ Mar 26 2021, 12:00 PM)
I don't know that what the guy before me said. Anyway I did a little more research. There are many links saying renewal in Selangor is just 1k as you've shared. But then there is this

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&...5oWaWpQ3C4Pi2pn

"Keep in mind that the calculation of the premium rate as mentioned above is for the land itself. It does not include the building constructed on the land. "

Can anyone confirm if during renewal the building has its own premium to pay as well?

chamelion
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That is why in my first post i mention the rate is subject to location.

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post Mar 27 2021, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(AHGS14 @ Mar 27 2021, 10:22 AM)
https://www.facebook.com/tensharing/videos/346646133449440
Just came across this.  It gave an idea on how to lease renewal fees are computed.
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the last part of the video is similar to the example I gave. It put the buyer in a difficult position, that is why the property is no desirable.

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