As far as I know, All LCD panels only take 60Hz to 120Hz. Except special LCD panels from sharp where they are design for PAL. So it doesn't matter which country you are in basically the signal is first converted from 50Hz to 60Hz before it can be displayed on a LCD panel.

Of course if you are using NTSC signal, then you will have the best benefit from signal conversion artifact. However Sharp has a Panel specially designed far PAL signal.

I would disagree that Sony Bravia D is in Asia 100Hz.....

I have a Sony KLV-46V300 not so impressive using the ASTRO!

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Added on December 8, 2007, 10:56 amHi,

Another topic....did anyone notice that watching normal 4:3 program from Astro or TV broadcast will normally turn a beautiful slim looking babe to a fat and rounded babe instead on a 16:9 LCD? Unless you change to 4:3 mode and live with the 2 blank band on the left and right side!

We need more 16:9 programmes!!!

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Added on December 8, 2007, 11:24 amIt is sad that RTM decide to use MPEG2 SD......they should take challenge Mediacorp and use H.264 HD instead.....see the actual capture 1920x1080!
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This post has been edited by tch01: Dec 8 2007, 11:28 AM

From what I have gathered so far, (correct me if I am wrong)

Those LCD TV which can input 24p is not that useful unless the TV set itself support 120Hz. That's because in order for smooth judder free video, the frequency must be in multiples of 24 ... e.g 24, 48,..... 96 or 120hz, for perfect synchronization. Otherwise, even if the TV can input 24p, it will still have to do some sort of pulldown technique.

Currently those TV which claim can input 24P but does not have 120hz frequency is just marketing hype. It's akin to those TV which claim can input 1080P signal but the panel itself is only 1366x768 resolution.

Personally i vote for Sony because...it has Game and Astro mode...your Astro viewing on LCD will be much better. But, i heard Sharp is the most preffered brand in Japan. Not sure on their quality because never try Sharp.

just bought regza 32a3000 on thursday nite , j card member day at tmn maluri. rm2599 (free extended 1 yr warranty) free RM 260 jusco cash voucher. quite good PQ on astro.

good for you. last time also i found that toshiba and sharp have best PQ for astro. but choose sharp coz panel design nicer and the freeze mode

This post has been edited by saiga: Dec 8 2007, 07:36 PM

Sharp is quite a reliable brand....my mum bought 16" tv during the 80's, used for 12 years without any problem..but not sure about Sharp LCD.

Hi,

Can anyone advice me, with RM3.7K budget what LCD TV brand can I buy? Can anyone suggest me any shop in Shah Alam area that accept installment payment using Credit Card? Thank.

tch01 , tat pic there is during trial versions is it?

the ones i have been receiving now more mediavorp wording aredi, only the logo HD5

Yup that was captured during trial time. During that time starhub already have Discovery on HD. Can't Malaysia pick up and go for HD?

yea, starhub got 2 HD dedicated channels, but not for free

msia?

well @ least i still can receive mediacorp HD5 for free

guys can someone post pic by capturing image quality of astro on your LCD.
so we can compare with another

most shop only display promo video only not astro.

astro sucks on LCD

Yup, I think that is pretty much right. But recently i saw a tv advert in newspaper saying the tv can handle 100hz and 120hz (LG or hitachi, cant remember). thus this mean we can select any one of the freq given, or its simply saying its actually 100hz, but it can accept 120hz (similar as normal tv with 50hz but can watch 24hz by pulldown method).

I think you guys mixed up the issues, whether the input can accept 24p (film based source) is not the same topic as the LCD panel refreshing at 100/120Hz la.

and also the capability to input signal 1080p has nothing to do with the panel resolution 1366x768 output.. 2 separate topics.

for example, if a LCD TV has 1366x768, it would be better for the TV's internal scaler to accept this full HD signal and discart additional information from a 1080p24 based signal rather than try to upscale a 720p signal to 1366x768p or convert 1080i to 1366x768

This post has been edited by ar188: Dec 10 2007, 03:48 PM

BBA keng!!!!!!!!!!!!!

no la..just my preference to drive 1366x768 with 1080i (if that TV internal deinterlacer is decent) or accept 1080p24 signal than upscale 720p (if the choice is available, so 1080p24 capable TV would enable you all these choices rather than limit your options)

I think you have mixed up what we were discussing. We are discussing one thing and you are talking about another.

My point is , If you want to input 24p then the best combination is with a 120Hz TV.

On A 100Hz TV which can input 24P, there will still be judder because of the uneven match (24p can't be multiplied to exactly match 100Hz frequency) . It will have to use some sort of technique to fill in the missing frames. How well the manufacturer implements the technique will determine how smooth the video will be.

On the other hand , if you have 120Hz TV which can input also input 24P signals, it won't have to do any pulldown because it just multiply the 24 by 5 times.

btw, I only mentioned the topic of 1080P input on a panel with resolution of 768 just to show an example of how people are sometimes misled into believing that any panel which can input 1080P signal is automatically a Full HD Panel itself.

Just like how people are misled that just because the TV can input 24P , it will automatically have the optimal frequency to handle the signal smoothly.

The two examples are not meant to be related, other than the fact that they are sometimes used to mislead people for marketing purposes.

This post has been edited by Ngto: Dec 11 2007, 03:07 AM

i'm looking for 32" lcd tv for gaming and movie purpose, need advise on which lcd produce most quality images on screen for xbox360. a promoter suggest the jvc LT-32EX77 which has those blur reduction capability, and other thn that he also suggest the samsung r8 series which forummer here have mix opnion about samsung.

wht i am aiming for lcd tvs are, gaming xbox360. movie might come second as i can't diffrentiate btwn watching movies in sd and hd. a vga connection,hdmi and clear picture is a must. pls advise. thank you.

Exactly what we are discussing, 120hz will have a simpler inverse telecine for a 24p than 100hz. You can afford though to have a 100hz, 70hz or what ever freq of your LCD tv have, given it will do a proper 3:2 pulldown. And there is not many tv that can do that (according to the expert from hidefdigest). One of them is Sharp A63 model, which is why Im looking for it so desperately cos Sharp Malaysia dont have those model. Singapore have.....

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Added on December 11, 2007, 8:24 amI think most of the current gen lcd will fit in your tv criteria (mainly for gaming). The only question is budget. I myself using the old samsung R71. Couldnt complain much. Just look around for current lcd within the budget and enjoy.

This post has been edited by ICDeadPeople: Dec 11 2007, 08:24 AM

er.... tis 24p thing is making me dizzy