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xander2k8
post Nov 9 2022, 05:07 AM

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QUOTE(Toku @ Nov 8 2022, 11:26 AM)
Ambank 3mth
USD 4.9%

Maybank 3mth
USD 5.05%

Maybank 6mth
SGD 4.15%

DBS 3mth
USD 4.45%

CIMB SG 6mth
SGD 2.95%

Seems like malaysia banks are more desperate for USD, SGD.
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No point putting in banks as the FX spread 2% eating off interest by the time of payout 🤦‍♀️

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post Dec 3 2022, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(gooroojee @ Dec 3 2022, 01:46 PM)
Different banks have different rules.
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Rules are the same as it set by MAS 🤦‍♀️

Only the thing different is the implementation of it which is why all FD accounts must be accompanied with a savings account
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post Dec 3 2022, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(gooroojee @ Dec 3 2022, 05:40 PM)
How much of a premium above local Malaysian FD would someone need to de-risk the daily forex fluctuations? SGD went from 3.4 to 3.24 in just a few weeks.

Isn't the whole point of FD is an exchange of low returns and illiquidity for virtually zero risk? Adding forex introduces a very real risk of capital loss, and keeping it locked in a foreign FD removes your ability to maneuver quickly when forex is swinging significantly - either to lock in gains or to stop loss.
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The reason is why some put FX FD is to preserve wealth and diversify and they are not even looking for returns in the 1st place

Which is why some banks place a very high minimum opening for certain FX accounts as they cater to certain privileged
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post Dec 4 2022, 05:23 AM

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QUOTE(gooroojee @ Dec 3 2022, 09:38 PM)
Interesting claim. Can you please point me to the MAS regulations that mandate this?

There are banks in both Singapore and Malaysia that do not require a savings account. From my experience, banks are happy to hold on to your money for as long as you don't collect at maturity, but usually they will renew the FD for you at prevailing rates. In Malaysia FDs left to auto-renew past 7 years will be transferred to unclaimed moneys.
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This MAS guidelines as below:

What are the requirements to open a fixed deposit account?

If you are an existing account holder, you will have to log in to the bank’s internet banking platform to open a fixed deposit. If you do not have an existing account with the bank, you might be required to open an account. This would require the following:

Front and back of your NRIC (for Singaporeans / PRs)
Passport and Employment Pass (for foreigners)
Proof of residential address

It is required due to ekyc purposes and Amla issue 🤦‍♀️

Unlike before OTC where you can open without savings and gone are those days anymore unless you are current existing renewal holders 🤦‍♀️

It same goes as Malaysian banks as they just want a placeholder account to fulfilled AmLa gathering of account holder details
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post Dec 14 2022, 05:15 AM

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QUOTE(MystiqueLife @ Dec 14 2022, 02:16 AM)
And hungarian forint is 15.86%  tongue.gif
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That is nothing try comparing it with Zimbabwe over 90% Argentina over 70% and Venezuela over 30% which makes Hungary like a step child
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post Dec 15 2022, 03:56 AM

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QUOTE(MystiqueLife @ Dec 14 2022, 10:03 PM)
Err, I can park forint FD for a year from MY. Not sure those hyper inflation countries able to do it or not
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Probably can and if you got any banking account on those countries no issue then

Why forint in the 1st place? And not Polish Zloty or Czech Koruna
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post Dec 15 2022, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Dec 15 2022, 12:11 PM)
Your money masuk already...can keluar or not? later kena tax 110% for withdrawing...lol
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Zimbabwe and Venezuela I wouldn’t vouch for it as those despot regimes and sanctioned by many countries

Argentina definitely can take out and no tax but you have to beware as it is hyperinflation country 🤦‍♀️
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post Jan 19 2023, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(rahsk @ Jan 19 2023, 09:33 AM)
I have a rhb multi currency account. Would it be worthy to convert and get a foreign currency fd? maybe usd? what are the potential risks?
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Not worth to convert as the banks will charge you a higher spread 🤦‍♀️

If you convert and save defeat the purpose but if it to invest overseas make sure your gains are factored in the bank fees and spread
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post Jan 26 2023, 07:55 AM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Jan 26 2023, 07:22 AM)
What kind of risks? I am am not planning to take back these money. It's main purpose is to hedge with a high interest rate as bonus.
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Default and counter party risks
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post Jan 26 2023, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Jan 26 2023, 09:20 AM)
Ya as what xander says, the same reason why RHB, MBSB, Affin bank in MY offers better rates than the big and larger ones like Public/Maybank.

The difference is more pronounced in the Singapore side since the local banks are "really" safe. Kiasu kiasi Sporeans won't easily move money into MY banks after their 1998 AFC lesson. tongue.gif

Of course one can always argue the deposits are insured anyway (the smaller banks like CIMB SG will pay higher premium for their bank deposits insurance than DBS/UOB/OCBC). But the market prices them as riskier still.
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As long as the bank is not established in Singapore hence risks

Which is why CIMB can anytime decide to shut their operations in Singapore

If you want the best of FD and security always put in the banks that is established in local jurisdiction
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post Feb 4 2023, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(Mr Gray @ Feb 4 2023, 11:37 AM)
I just had an idea. Foreign FDs in Malaysia generally have high interest rates, but not really favourable to us because we need to exchange MYR to foreign currency at bad FX rate. Eg right now USD 12 month FD rate at CIMB MY is 5.3%.

However I just noticed that CIMB MY foreign deposit account does allow deposit via TT/Swift

Also, it is possible to send USD or EUR direct to Malaysian bank account from Wise, via TT/Swift. It won't be instant, takes several days. (Only these two currencies available to send to Malaysia this way). In the app, Wise told me that it would cost USD2.90 extra.

As far as I understand, the only MYR to USD conversion using CIMB rate, that is required as per cimb website is the initial deposit of RM10,000.

If cimb can accept directly USD from Wise via TT/Swift, then I think it's really worthwhile to do it. Inward remittance fee at CIMB MY is also 0, just like CIMB SG. Other costs would probably the other additional TT costs charged by intermediaries etc.

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Not possible because BNM doesn’t allow direct FX currencies into the banking system hence RM is the only way to go 🤦‍♀️

Which is why we all been opening overseas to direct deposit the currencies rather using useless banks in Malaysia which charge you arm and leg 🤦‍♀️

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post Feb 5 2023, 03:56 AM

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QUOTE(Mr Gray @ Feb 4 2023, 11:26 PM)
Where does it say bnm doesn't allow direct FX currency into the banking system? Is this your opinion or a fact?

I found no such limitation in BNM website.

Regardless, I will go to cimb branch and get confirmation.
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It is fact

Transferring out is not an issue but incoming from abroad is restricted and it has to be transacted only in RM which is why we most of us are using CIMB SG for that purpose 🤦‍♀️

Any FCA in Malaysia is still denominated in RM only thing it will display in FC but any incoming it will be only transacted in RM to be converted to FC

Go read about DRB and FEP controls as it is one the capital control that restricts FC for individuals 🤦‍♀️ hence which is why restrictions for incoming and outgoing with outgoing less restrictions compared to incoming

This post has been edited by xander2k8: Feb 5 2023, 04:02 AM
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QUOTE(MystiqueLife @ Feb 5 2023, 04:35 AM)
I thought it is the other way round, with incoming easy but outgoing troublesome as hell
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If it is standard account then it easy but if it involves with FCA it is another story then 🤦‍♀️ because involves FEP controls by BNM
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post Feb 5 2023, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(MystiqueLife @ Feb 5 2023, 06:04 PM)
I mean, incoming FCA is fairly simple but outgoing is shit and need to be forced into MYR before it can be processed in local MCA accounts.
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That the other part that most don’t understand which any how any MCA in Malaysia has to be processed in RM no matter what as per BNM FEP controls 🤦‍♀️
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post Feb 11 2023, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Feb 11 2023, 04:11 PM)
Business Time Singapore: Singaporeans flock to foreign currency to lock in top interest rates

FRI, FEB 10, 2023 - 06:07 PM UPDATED FRI, FEB 10, 2023 - 7:25 PM

https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-...-interest-rates

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SGD recently a lot short traders hence which is why a lot of them currently locking it in anticipation of a weaker SGD this year
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post Mar 5 2023, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(commonsense @ Mar 5 2023, 03:02 PM)
how about PBB, anyone try before? can transfer SGD in singapore bank to this one?

https://www.pbebank.com/Personal-Banking/Ra...osit-Rates.aspx
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You can transfer but beware of the spread itself because it’s and you will lose more to PBE 🤦‍♀️

Use something like Wise or Instarem instead for better rates
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post Mar 20 2023, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Mar 20 2023, 02:01 PM)
Seems lower than here.
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But less depreciation than RM 🤦‍♀️ because HKD it is pegged to the USD
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post Mar 20 2023, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Mar 20 2023, 04:45 PM)
🤦🤦🤦
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HKD is pegged to USD and will never fall below 7.85 while RM free floated 🤦‍♀️

YTD RM already lost almost 2% while HKD barely at 0.5% 🤦‍♀️

Even in pandemic times RM dropped to 4.70 while HKD went up instead at 7.75 range which tells you that HKD pegged and stable trading range while RM depreciating in the open market 🤦‍♀️
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post Apr 22 2023, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(gooroojee @ Apr 22 2023, 12:53 PM)
FD rates in Vietnam has dropped significantly after the government urged banks to support local businesses and real estate amidst a global downturn. The central bank reduced rares by 100 basis points. FD rates have dropped from above 12% to less than 8% over the past couple of months
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Plus they are devalue the dong because it has been appreciating past year due to onshoring and FDI flowing in the past year
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post Apr 25 2023, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(CharleneAira @ Apr 25 2023, 11:18 PM)
A foreign currency fixed deposit is a form of time deposit offered by banks to investors who want to save foreign currency for usage in the future or utilise it as insurance against foreign exchange volatility. The FCFD account's funds cannot be withdrawn until the predetermined fixed term has passed
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Not true in the 1st place 🤦‍♀️ Some banks allowed it with a fee being charged 🤦‍♀️

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