
Anyone know about foreign FD?
Anyone know about foreign FD?
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Aug 2 2022, 05:42 PM
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Aug 3 2022, 10:24 AM
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Aug 3 2022, 08:57 PM
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QUOTE(no6 @ Aug 3 2022, 01:36 PM) can we transfer usd directly from wise into malaysian multi-currency account and then make foreign fd placement thereafter ? I tried before TT from a bank, I think charges is the TT cable charge and admin fees only. If you need to convert then not worth it.However, the bank kind of slow to make that FD placement even they received the fund. Maybe they realized they can't make much money from the transaction and hence dragged a week+ to check this and check that even I went to the branch a few times.....only after I complained, they placed the FD. End up I wasted 2 weeks of interest. This post has been edited by Toku: Aug 3 2022, 08:57 PM no6 liked this post
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Aug 4 2022, 11:07 AM
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Oct 4 2022, 05:27 PM
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Oct 5 2022, 08:33 PM
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Oct 14 2022, 01:11 PM
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 13 2022, 07:11 PM) Somehow,... I wouldn't want to lock-up my funds in a Fixed Deposit. I'd want to average down when I feel like it,... SGD FD in CIMB SG now 3.1%. 0.55% is too low I guess.Hence, I've chosen to put my SGD into FSM's Cash Acct... 0.55% p.a., calculated daily and banked-in every quarter. For other foreign funds, yes, into 1-mth FDs. ... I've also applied for the SSB, November Tranche,... What have you guys done ? USD FD in DBS also reach 4.42%, not bad already. |
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Nov 8 2022, 11:26 AM
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Ambank 3mth
USD 4.9% Maybank 3mth USD 5.05% Maybank 6mth SGD 4.15% DBS 3mth USD 4.45% CIMB SG 6mth SGD 2.95% Seems like malaysia banks are more desperate for USD, SGD. |
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Nov 17 2022, 07:18 PM
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Good news for SGD saver in SG. DBS 3.8% 5mth FD. tradingGo and CommodoreAmiga liked this post
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Dec 2 2022, 11:47 PM
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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Dec 1 2022, 09:21 AM) Found out that SGD 3mth 4.1 at Alliance Bank. Much better than Singapore bank. DBS remit could be free.TT out from Alliance Bank only RM7.5. Good place to part SGD for short term. TOS, you may try this. better than DBS FD. TOS liked this post
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Dec 3 2022, 11:50 PM
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QUOTE(tradingGo @ Dec 3 2022, 03:59 PM) Good promo! TOS et al.,If you're based in MY, is the exchange rate offered by Alliance bank any good? If you're based in SG, you could DBS remit for free to MY. My only concern is the FCY acc because many FCY acc offered in M'sia have a limited functionality and/or expensive fees. Just my hunch that this 3 mth 4.1% is better than the 6 mth 4%. To me, chance of alliance bank failure in "3 mths" is very low and not worth 1% pa additional premium to counter the risk. Also, the corresponding bank (Alliance bank's SGD account bank in Singapore) is a MAS regulated bank so the chance of the corresponding bank run down is also very low in "3 mths". So I think the risk is lower than market expected and reward is higher than market think. Just my 2 cents. And this is a case for those with SGD already in a SG bank waiting for FD (not for those looking for converting MYR to SGD for FD). So the cost to transfer out from SG bank and the cost to transfer out from MY bank need to be assessed. CIMB FCY account has a half yearly fee (10 USD), inward TT cost from foreign bank RM 5 and the outward TT cost is RM 10, so not preferred as a SGD FD bank compared to Alliance bank, no inward TT cost and outward TT cost of RM 7.5 only. So this comparison show this is a 'viable' new path as alternative to get greater return over current conventional path. |
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Dec 4 2022, 12:33 AM
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QUOTE(TOS @ Dec 4 2022, 12:01 AM) I am starting to like your posts. As for the corresponding bank, I can't find any info from the web. However, any corresponding bank that can host SGD saving account is a bank/institution regulated by MAS. As there is no so call offshore SGD right? (like offshore RMB which is not governed by PRC)Yes, you are right. 1% kind of too high a premium. No CDS data to support also. Do you have info on this: Also, the corresponding bank (Alliance bank's SGD account bank in Singapore) is a MAS regulated bank? But for this Alliance bank SGD offshore FD to work, you need to factor in the inward remittance cost for those without access to DBS remit. That's something to consider (i.e., even though Alliance doesn't charge anything, other SG banks will charge outward remittance fee to allow you to move SGD out of their bank in the first place). You have any solutions for that? I am not sure if we could directly use CIMB clicks to transfer SGD from CIMB SG to CIMB MY SGD Current account. Based on below quote, it seems using CIMB clicks there is zero fee. Someone need to simulate it in CIMB clicks to validate. If it can't be done, then the fee could be similar to the one issue via branch - which is hefty and not viable (much worse than TT outward from CIMB MY). *SGD-MYR Transfer on CIMB Clicks Zero commission, agent fees and cable charges *Issue via Branch – *Debit from FCY account without foreign exchange *0.125% commission (min S$10, max S$100) + 0.125% commission-in-lieu of exchange (min S$10, max S$100) + agent fee (if applicable) + cable charge (flat rate of S$30 or equivalent) Probably this is yet another advantage to have a DBS account that Malaysian should seriously consider to open (even though through the hardship like Ramjade suggested). This post has been edited by Toku: Dec 4 2022, 12:34 AM TOS liked this post
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Dec 4 2022, 06:17 PM
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QUOTE(gooroojee @ Dec 4 2022, 12:40 AM) I've used CIMB online banking to link my MY and SG accounts and transferred money back and forth between the two. No issues. Did you transfer SGD from SG account to MY SGD account without currency exchange? We are interested to know if it is possible to transfer 1 for 1 SGD using CIMB Click SG and what is the charges. Thanks |
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Dec 4 2022, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE(TOS @ Dec 4 2022, 09:11 AM) That's not necessary the case. Any currency can be held outside of its "home country", and thus not subject to the monetary laws and regulations of the "home country". This is what I mean by "offshore". Ok. I think of one possible way to check the corresponding bank for the specific currency. Just try to simulate a outward SGD TT using Alliance online to see which corresponding bank show up in their form. If it is a named SG bank then it should be an "on shore" account that Alliance is keeping your SGD. May or may not work. It is just my wild guess. Just like what I think when I try to transfer EUR, CHF, USD, JPY, SGD into IBKR, it shows respective countries named bank as the saving account bank so I thought it was always on-shore.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurocurrency E.g. Eurodollar in London not subject to Fed's regulation (though still affected by Fed policy like interest rate etc.). The same thing is applied to SGD FD held with institutions outside Singapore. In this case, your SGD money is deposited in Malaysia and thus subject to BNM regulations instead. https://www.bnm.gov.my/documents/20124/6036...rency+Asset.pdf (look for the term "Foreign Currency Asset Onshore"). TOS liked this post
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Dec 4 2022, 06:50 PM
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QUOTE(TOS @ Dec 4 2022, 09:11 AM) That's not necessary the case. Any currency can be held outside of its "home country", and thus not subject to the monetary laws and regulations of the "home country". This is what I mean by "offshore". I found below definition from web:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurocurrency E.g. Eurodollar in London not subject to Fed's regulation (though still affected by Fed policy like interest rate etc.). The same thing is applied to SGD FD held with institutions outside Singapore. In this case, your SGD money is deposited in Malaysia and thus subject to BNM regulations instead. https://www.bnm.gov.my/documents/20124/6036...rency+Asset.pdf (look for the term "Foreign Currency Asset Onshore"). “Investment in foreign currency asset onshore” means making of any payment in Malaysia for‐ (a) purchase of foreign currency denominated security or Islamic security offered in Malaysia by a resident as approved by the Bank; (b) purchase of foreign currency‐denominated financial instrument or Islamic financial instrument offered in Malaysia by a resident as approved by the Bank; or © placement into foreign currency account with a licensed onshore bank other than placement for investment abroad. Now I understand. For country that do not have currency control, there may not be foreign currency asset onshore (Just like the IBKR case). For Malaysia which has currency control, the foreign currency asset that you put in local bank is actually submit to BNM at the end of the day. So the custodian is actually BNM, not any corresponding bank in foreign control. And those foreign currency asset kept in the BNM become Malaysia's foreign reserve. So in this case, if BNM withhold your foreign currency, you basically has a third party risk with BNM. No one know how high is this chance but I believe as a sovereign, BNM will not thread this likely as it will induce Foreign capital flight and some serious problems later on. TOS liked this post
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Dec 15 2022, 05:37 PM
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QUOTE(TOS @ Dec 15 2022, 05:02 PM) That is correct. To be more accurate, you should be looking at the economic opportunity cost. Yes, normally I just transferwise to IBKR during the day when the rate is attractive and later transfer out from IBKR to put FD.Like it or not, other service providers will charge fees and/or quote rates with spreads anyway. So, for example, using the next best option for comparison, i.e. fintech, all-in spread is about 0.5% per leg or 1% overall (to and from USD), assuming that you can find other avenues to deposit USD. Also, using brokers like IBKR to move money will incur far less fees (fixed 2 USD and you get market rate) but be mindful of withdrawal limits. TOS liked this post
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Dec 15 2022, 05:55 PM
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QUOTE(gooroojee @ Dec 15 2022, 05:42 PM) Is it possible to transfer from IBKR in SG to a USD FCA in Malaysia (or maybe even USD FCA in Singapore)? USD FCA in SG = yesFor USD FCA in MY, I don't think you can't. Just need to get your bank swift code and account number and/or corresponding bank info and key in to IBKR withdrawal request. You will get the details when you put in request to withdraw from IBKR. However, you still have to check carefully with your bank if there is any corresponding fee even if it is a incoming transaction. This post has been edited by Toku: Dec 15 2022, 06:06 PM gooroojee liked this post
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Jan 3 2023, 09:14 AM
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Anyone know FD interest from oversea need to declare for income tax?
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Jul 23 2023, 03:46 PM
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QUOTE(Mr Gray @ Jul 21 2023, 06:03 PM) RHB gives better exchange rate. And got interest also A bit disappointed that RHB MCA do not support online oversea transfer. Need to go to the branch to do it with a fee. I guess this is only viable for slowly converting and save up to a big sum before go to the branch to do transfer.HLB Wallet exchange rate is quite bad. No interest |
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Aug 26 2023, 11:12 AM
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QUOTE(xander2k8 @ Aug 26 2023, 01:23 AM) NZD is soft commodity currency which the value is fairly stagnant while upside is lower compared to hard commodity currency which moves in cycle with economic boom Any particular reason to allocate more in CAD vs AUD?If you wanna hold commodity currency of G7 portfolio you should allocate 50% CAD, 30% AUD and 20% NZD to balance any downturn But NZD value in high inflationary will always hold in value for long term view of 10 years at least |
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