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post Aug 29 2007, 01:02 AM, updated 19y ago

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Sorry if this has been done before, the search bar is kinda causing problems, don't know whats wrong. I was just wondering, how do you write a solo that will be in key with a song? I've got a few compositions (songs) of my own, but i feel like they need a few solos to spice them up. How do you know what key a song is in? And how would you go about composing a solo?

Sorry, but the only aspect of guitar that i'm 'guitarded' in is theory. The only scales i know are pentatonic and harmonic minor, but all i do is play them in their 'box' shapes. Anytime i improv, i just mess around within that 1 box. Gets pretty repetitive after a while. Don't get how i can connect different 'boxes' across the fretboard. I can sweep, tap and all that stuff but i just don't know how to utilise theory to create a solo. Haven't had a lesson in my life, don't think i'll be able to attend any also for the time being, busy with uni. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks a lot. icon_question.gif
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post Aug 29 2007, 01:14 PM

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wow... if you can sweep, tap etc. then soloing shouldn't be a problem so long as you know what notes you're playing...

you can probably wikipedia or google some scales etc and match them to the notes on the fretboard, then you'll know which notes are "in key" and which aren't... course you could just play whatever you want and if anyone gives you grief, just tell them that they're too n00b to understand your music... brows.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(RustReaver4D1 @ Aug 29 2007, 01:14 PM)
... course you could just play whatever you want and if anyone gives you grief, just tell them that they're too n00b to understand your music...  brows.gif  laugh.gif
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laugh.gif damn funny but it's actually true.

solo is an improvisation of scales plus creativity and add in some talents and skills. it's like programming. if you're a master in PHP, it does not mean you can actually create good looking web page.

you seems to have talents,skills and scale knowledge. but do you have the creativity?

also what seems creative to you, may not be undestandable to others. laugh.gif . so all this jibberish means that the quoted statement is true. doh.gif

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post Aug 29 2007, 03:16 PM

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Haha, ok, i think i get what you're trying to say. Yeah, i gotta go get my creative juices flowing a little, then maybe i can come up with something. Maybe i'll just go google some articles on keys and such. Thanks guys.
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post Aug 29 2007, 03:42 PM

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For me,I just simply mess around with my guitar until I find something that sounds cool.Took a lotta time for me to do that though,so I'd recommend to learn some theory.
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post Aug 29 2007, 03:46 PM

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Learning a few licks won't do harm too.......
Most great guitarist has lots of licks under their sleeve when it comes to improv spots. Listen to Slash, Zakk, SRV, Angus Young..... and you'll get ideas for some great licks.
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Yeah, and since you've already got sweeping/tapping under your belt, you can just fool around with those...

Like if you're playing in the key of Em, just throw in a few E min sweeps here and there... or tap out the E min arpeggio (E G B)... heck, if you know both the major and minor sweep patterns, you're pretty much set already... smile.gif

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Ok, thanks for all the help guys, i'm getting a few ideas already for the solos already. Cheers. biggrin.gif
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post Aug 29 2007, 06:01 PM

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You could start with the major and minor pentatonics, arpeggios and then move on to major scale and its modes.

QUOTE(RustReaver4D1 @ Aug 29 2007, 01:14 PM)
course you could just play whatever you want and if anyone gives you grief, just tell them that they're too n00b to understand your music...  brows.gif  laugh.gif
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Or you could call it a jazz-inspired death metal but notsofusion solo.
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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Aug 29 2007, 06:01 PM)
You could start with the major and minor pentatonics, arpeggios and then move on to major scale and its modes.
Or you could call it a jazz-inspired death metal but notsofusion solo.
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why bother? he can just call it prog... hehe... jk! icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 29 2007, 07:16 PM

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my old trick ...improvise your solo by using different technique !

bend.. and slow stuff --> get more aggressive and starts legato-ing! --> alternate picking --->sweeps picking ---> end with a bend

HELL YEA ! tongue.gif


anyway...

just wanna let you know ...

1. there is nothing wrong playing inside the box
2.there is nothing wrong playing inside the box
3.there is nothing wrong playing inside the box

this idea of "playing inside the box" ..is more of a...

"you are a noob , you play in the box" " i am pro , i play all around the fretboard" mentality ...

which isn't true...i can name you countless of songs .. guitar Gods played "inside the box" ..from For the love of God , tender surrender ,wonderful slippery thing , greg howe's / shawn lane's...etc..

in the end..we forget about the purpose of playing guitar... we just wanna have fun and we wanna hear something nice smile.gif

in fact , so far i found the pentatonic box the NICEST area to play solo..the feeling of the pulls and vibrato is just right on ! wink.gif

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post Aug 29 2007, 07:21 PM

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wei... deep mou... rclxms.gif

err... what are "pulls"? blink.gif
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post Aug 29 2007, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(RustReaver4D1 @ Aug 29 2007, 07:21 PM)
wei... deep mou...  rclxms.gif

err... what are "pulls"?  blink.gif
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ah..sorry..noobie like me..forgot the formal term..

pulls = bends la...hahaha..okok i go edit
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post Aug 29 2007, 07:46 PM

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i only know pentatonics, what i did was just connect the 'dots' or notes from one box to another one, run them from the 1st pattern till the last, from the top strings till the last...it may not sound very dynamic, but at least i know what i'm doing laugh.gif

and oh yeah, i also cheat by tapping the penta notes, when i run out of things to play... sweat.gif sweat.gif
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the ending of the solo for Everytime I Die by Children of Bodom has a very nice pent box run (stolen from zakk wylde iirc) thumbup.gif
still trying to nail that part for months now..
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i know.... nothing....
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post Aug 29 2007, 08:15 PM

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Pentatonics are always a great scale if you're playing Rock, Metal or Blues..... it just FITS.....

Which is why I rely TOO much on it already........


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post Aug 29 2007, 08:25 PM

 
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my theory knowledge is horrible.. dont even know the notes on the fretboard yet haha
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post Aug 29 2007, 08:48 PM

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one of the best advice for playing good improv solo is from bb king himself. search guitar mags for interviews with him.

oh ya, train your ears too. that has really helped me alot especially when improvising on slower solos where melodies are very important.

take a look at asura. first jam session he didnt really play much. the next jam session he was kicking trio of terror's asses already. you should ask him how he improved so fast.
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Ohhh speaking of good advice on soloing, here's a great one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKhSzbhn_oo

Even though he only touches on the fundamentals, these are points that a lot of us tend to forget when we solo. biggrin.gif Watch it til the end, especially the end! Freaking hilarious! laugh.gif

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post Aug 29 2007, 09:17 PM

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Why the heck when I mess around with the pentatonic box shape scale, it sounds like some kinda ancient chinese song?Sounds like some kinda kungfu fight gonna start...
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QUOTE(echobrainproject @ Aug 29 2007, 08:48 PM)
take a look at asura. first jam session he didnt really play much. the next jam session he was kicking trio of terror's asses already. you should ask him how he improved so fast.
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i kena pawned kao kao by the trio la laugh.gif

i guess you just have to find the correct notes to connect to get the flow going...i just treat it as a join-the-dot game, just join them up and see what i can get out of it...of course, it doesn't sound pleasant all the time sweat.gif
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QUOTE(echobrainproject @ Aug 29 2007, 08:48 PM)
take a look at asura. first jam session he didnt really play much. the next jam session he was kicking trio of terror's asses already. you should ask him how he improved so fast.
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so asura, how did you improve so fast? biggrin.gif
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post Aug 29 2007, 10:14 PM

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Haha, yea man. Spill your secrets asura. biggrin.gif
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i think he eat pati ayam
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post Aug 29 2007, 11:28 PM

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nothing much of a secret, i just memorize all the position/box pattern of the pentatonic all over the fretboard...

then when you're free jamming, just find the key of the pentatonic and start playing 'join-the-notes', as the pentatonic is just 5 different patterns, spread out all over the fretboard...

and i just proceed to learn pentatonics blues from there, but still struggling with major/minor scales sweat.gif sweat.gif

it might sound stupid, but that's how i did it... laugh.gif laugh.gif

edit: typo

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*goes and buys pati ayam*...doesn't work dude...

btw, how do you find out what key a song is in??
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QUOTE(asura_86 @ Aug 29 2007, 11:28 PM)
nothing much of a secret, i just memorize all the position/box pattern of the pentatonic all over the fretboard...

then when you're free jamming, just find the key of the pentatonic and start playing 'join-the-notes', as the pentatonic is just 5 different patterns, spread out all over the fretboard...

and i just proceed to learn pentatonics blues from there, but still struggling with major/minor scales  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

it might sound stupid, but that's how i did it... laugh.gif  laugh.gif

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lesson 1 - the powerslide.
*goes to play a video of pete townsend doing the powerslide*

nobody will remember your solo anyway, but they will remember the powerslide tongue.gif
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one cheating way is to learn all the modes in different box shapes. that way, anywhere u are on the fretboard you can just whack something within the shape and still be safe. this my friend, is called guitar wanking. rclxm9.gif

on asura's method of connecting the dots, im assuming its between 2 notes. this technique isnt very melodic, but it works for short solos in a rock context. you can play notes within the scale to play safe. however, you can add crossover notes(chromatics) to reach that target note. it creates more tension. (listen to how John Petrucci). however, dont emphasise these notes(that are not in the scale) in your solos...unless u wanna claim you're some canggih fusion jazz metal player. tongue.gif good notes to start a solo with is the root note (duh), the 3rd and the 5th (if you know your theory, you'll know these 3 notes make up the core of a chord). a simple way to start is to slide to any one of those notes. another way to start of a solo (metal style) is to do a fast scale run all the way up to your 'target' note (target note= the note you're aiming to reach)

here are some tips thats in my head (hey its midnight and im sleepy):
1. guitar techniques. this is one strong advantage we have over other instruments such as piano. maximise the techniques you know. if all you do is tremolo pick, try to add some bends, pulloffs, sweeps, vibrato, dive bombs, slides, etc. Now it might sound simple but think well if you have really fully maximised the technique.
a. take for example, slide. one underused technique is sliding down to the note! we're so used to just sliding up to a note.
b. another example is bends. we usually bend from one note up. there are many ways to do this. you can bend first(not pick or sound the note) then pick and release the bend. or you can hit the note then quickly bend up. or you could do it very bluesy, by hitting the note, add vibrato then slowly bend the note up.

See theres so many things you can do to add colour to your solo. Now imagine combining 2 techniques! Bend, then tap then release your bend then let go of your tapping note or why not sweep then tap? showoff/posing possibilities are endless tongue.gif

2. Think of solos like a story. do an intro, build the story, build a climax, do an outro. im sure u've heard of this many times. different people have different approaches to this. some can just think of music notes whereas some cant. you can try techniques like having a movie scene in your head and you play a solo as if its soundtrack to tell what is going on. or some people would like to think of colours (red=angry/brave, pink=girly) and then solo based on that colour.

3. work on your hearing.
a. be able to hear the difference between intervals. this is good to give you a clearer picture of what a melody should sound like. it also helps for you to be able to tell more clearly when listening to a piece of music. if you work on this well, the next time you listen to a dragonforce guitar solo, you wouldnt consider it noise but can tell in greater detail what they both are actually doing.

b. its also good to be able to know how each note sounds different. example is play the sweet child of mine solo in its original key. then, play it a full step down. hear that it has so much difference to the feel of the solo even though its exactly the same solo. the choice of notes you choose does make a difference. it might work for a song but might not for a different one.

4. know all the notes accross your fretboard. i think this should be number 1, but heck im lazy to edit as im typing everything out from my head. how can you solo when you dont even know what notes thats on your fretboard? memorising box shapes will only help you so far. the benefits of knowing where the notes are is endless. im lazy to type everything. one of them is you can play the note thats closest to you instead of choosing a further one. this minimises movement and helps speed. another is tone. is the E on the 2nd fret of the 3rd string the same as the one on the 12th fret 1st string? hell no. the one on the first string sounds thicker, due to the string gauge.

5. think outside the box. how? dont think of it how a guitarist would play it. try thinking what would a pianist do? what would a violinist play? if you're not sure what they play as you dont know the isntrument, try learning songs and transcribing them to guitar. like for me, i learn what vanessa carlton plays on the piano on my guitar. it opens up a whole new view on how you could play your instrument.
another good one is play like how a singer would sing it. one way to work/practice on this is take a song, and try to solo exactly the singers role (play what the singer is singing). you will notice how smart the choices of notes are. since a vocalist range is small compared to a guitar, the amount of choices the vocalist have is very limited. second thing you'll notice is how much articulation a vocalist has (the rests, the accents, the dynamics, etc). you can create a solo with just ONE note using all these articulations.

thats all i can think of right now. sorry if i sound unorganised. its late and im chatting on msn as im typing this.
hope it helps

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Dude, you are my hero!!! That should be stickied!! Thanks a lot EBP. Seriously. cheers.gif
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but i guess as much it is cool to just wank and spam any note on the fret board, slow down. . . and develop a good habit to target notes. . .

and if you already know the fretboard try and play in 5ths and 3rds. . . then move to diminished and stuff like that. . .

then throw in some chromatics. . .

then learn off key harmony. . .

how to end with a tensed ending etc. . .

stuff to make your playing your playing. .

individuality. . .

basically try and learn to target notes first. . . then learn jazz. . . lol

mindless wanking is fun but if you really writing a proper song i doubt it's that fun. . . heck look at serpent ash its all structured properly =D thats why they my no.1 band! also oceans of fire!

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QUOTE(Equilibrium777 @ Aug 30 2007, 01:18 AM)

and if you already know the fretboard try and play in 5ths and 3rds. . . then move to diminished and stuff like that. . .


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then learn off key harmony. . .


care to explain more? give some practical examples. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(echobrainproject @ Aug 30 2007, 12:26 AM)
another way to start of a solo (metal style) is to do a fast scale run all the way up to your 'target' note (target note= the note you're aiming to reach)
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Another way is to just do a scale run at XXX nps throughout your entire solo... the mindless wankfest style... whistling.gif

But seriously... when in doubt, let 'er rip...

"If you've got it, FLAUNT it!" - MAB

Since you've got some pretty hot techniques in your arsenal, you can try doing it the Malmsteen style...

<scale run><scale run><slide up to 21st fret E string><scale run><bend><6-string 15-fret sweep><3-string ascending diminished sweep arpeggios><slide up to 21st fret E string><scale run><slide up to 21st fret E string>

...oh yeah, and to find out what key a song/riff is in...

First, you gotta know what a scale is...

So the 2 common scales in rock/metal = E minor and A minor
E minor scale: E F# G A B C D E
A minor scale: A B C D E F G A

Say you've got a song where the chord progression is E5 E5 C5 D5 (standard Iron Maiden progression mou...)...

Since it has E, C, D... it could be either E minor or A minor right? But since it starts on the E5 power chord, chances are it's in E minor... since people usually start the chord progression with the root note (E in this case).

So when you solo, you can use the E minor scale... i.e. play E, F#, G, A, B, C or D on your fretboard (this is where you'll need to know where the notes are on your fretboard)...

Of course, since you're into harmonic minor, just replace the D with an Eb and voila... E harmonic minor...

Coolest motto I've found recently comes from Elias, the new Sonata Arctica guitarist... "Fake it til' you make it!" thumbup.gif doh.gif
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the last resort if you don't know the heck how to apply the scales to the solo....


shred it like Kerry King!!!!

LOL! laugh.gif

but seriously... i also have the problem on how to apply scales to a solo. i know the simple scales like E minor or A minor, but i just don't know how to lay them in a song, like how many notes to play on a note, should i change the pattern or when could i change the pattern, should i follow the note which the rhythm is playing bla bla bla....

for the moment, i could only 'try' to solo a slow song using whatever-scale-i-dont-know that i could think of... really pathetic.

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 30 2007, 11:55 AM)
the last resort if you don't know the heck how to apply the scales to the solo....
shred it like Kerry King!!!!

LOL! laugh.gif

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Who needs scales when you have SPEED! doh.gif
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 30 2007, 11:55 AM)

but seriously... i also have the problem on how to apply scales to a solo. i know the simple scales like E minor or A minor, but i just don't know how to lay them in a song, like how many notes to play on a note, should i change the pattern or when could i change the pattern, should i follow the note which the rhythm is playing bla bla bla....

for the moment, i could only 'try' to solo a slow song using whatever-scale-i-dont-know that i could think of... really pathetic.
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my suggestion is not to simply concentrate on practising scales... but listening to songs helps a lot... listen to as many genre of songs as possible... keep songs in ur ears all the time... when u drive... when u eat... sleep... sh!t... all the time...

and screw ur metal/rock pride man... anything goes... to me blues is the best place to start appreciating solo improv... once u're bored with it can move to jazz... and don't limit to listening solo's on guitars only... i've learned that other instruments can highly influence the way u solo... i personally like sax and keyboard solos in blues or jazz songs... i think sax has more feel to a song than guitar...

final advice... learn to play bass groove... it worked for me... i've just started playing bass less than a year i think my improvs on guitar has changed tremendously.... working on bass groove helps u play in close relation to other instruments in the ensamble... so u're not just rambling aimlessly...

that's my 2 cents? 4 cents? 2 ringgit? whichever applies...
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QUOTE(hotfootpowder @ Aug 30 2007, 03:43 PM)
and screw ur metal/rock pride man... anything goes...
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QUOTE(RustReaver4D1 @ Sep 5 2007, 11:43 AM)
QUOTE(Kai Hansen from Heavy Metal Universe (Powerplant 1999))
'Cause it's not only music
It's a chosen way of life
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QUOTE(hotfootpowder @ Sep 6 2007, 11:11 AM)
damnit... i knew i should've kept that to myself  doh.gif
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Hehe... no offense man, but some issues can get pretty sensitive on online music forums... icon_rolleyes.gif

"Feel/Emotion" vs "Speed/Technical-playing"
"Blues" vs "Shred"
"Jazz" vs "Metal"
"Fender" vs "Gibson"
"DiMarzio" vs "Seymour Duncan"

"No need to learn scales!"
"Who needs a guitar teacher?"

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And this one goes specifically to LedZepFreak...

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QUOTE(RustReaver4D1 @ Sep 6 2007, 11:31 AM)
Hehe... no offense man, but some issues can get pretty sensitive on online music forums...  icon_rolleyes.gif

"Feel/Emotion" vs "Speed/Technical-playing"
"Blues" vs "Shred"
"Jazz" vs "Metal"
"Fender" vs "Gibson"
"DiMarzio" vs "Seymour Duncan"

"No need to learn scales!"
"Who needs a guitar teacher?"

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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Sep 6 2007, 12:52 PM)
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post Sep 11 2007, 08:07 AM

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QUOTE(fatboythin @ Aug 29 2007, 01:02 AM)
Sorry if this has been done before, the search bar is kinda causing problems, don't know whats wrong. I was just wondering, how do you write a solo that will be in key with a song? I've got a few compositions (songs) of my own, but i feel like they need a few solos to spice them up. How do you know what key a song is in? And how would you go about composing a solo?

Sorry, but the only aspect of guitar that i'm 'guitarded' in is theory. The only scales i know are pentatonic and harmonic minor, but all i do is play them in their 'box' shapes. Anytime i improv, i just mess around within that 1 box. Gets pretty repetitive after a while. Don't get how i can connect different 'boxes' across the fretboard. I can sweep, tap and all that stuff but i just don't know how to utilise theory to create a solo. Haven't had a lesson in my life, don't think i'll be able to attend any also for the time being, busy with uni. Can someone point me in the right direction? Thanks a lot.  icon_question.gif
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Seriously most wicked solos are based on the pentatonic scale. Which has basically 5 notes thus come the term penta-tonic aka 5 tones(1 b3 4 5 b7)(W+H W W W+H W). For example Em pentatonic scale is E, G, A, B, & D and then back to the E octave. You should know tat E minor key is actually relative to the G major key based on the family chord inter-relation. So if the songs in whithin the respective key (lets say key of G major) all the above notes should be in the key of G (E, G, A, B, & D). So to stay in tune you have to keep your soloing within the boundaries of these notes and keys.

Similiar to the Harmonic minor (1 2 b3 4 5 b6 7) (W H W W H W+H H) (E, F#, G, A, B, C & D# and back to E octave)

If you notice most rock solos uses the additional 'blues note' in the Pentatonic scale which is the b5 so blues scale is (1 b3 4 b5 5 b7) (W+H W H H W+H W) (E, G, A, Bb & D and back to octave E)

So my advice is if you wanna play a solo that stays in tune, hit the notes that belongs to the respective key and for you to improvise here's some of my tips, hope it will be useful:

1. Try to feel the music and get the crucial beginning and ending notes of each song part and can try to start and end of the note respectively to the song.

2. Try to kick off the habit on solo-ing on the same box and find out the notes in other parts of the neck and start widening your octave range.

3. Tryin starting your solo on different keys in the scale be it either pentatonic, blues or harmonic minor.

4. Try hitting on different notes out of the normal scale once in awhile and start experimenting. Because all scales are inter-related and it's just a matter of different combination of notes and keys that produces that respective scale.

5.HEARIN!!! it's very crucial for you to hear what you play. If it doesn't sound nice!, then try something else that will sound nice!

6. Don't limit yourself to long epic like solo only. Variead your style, include riffs, licks, and also some mixtures of chord runs.

7. Try not to repeat the same of run. Once repeatative, it gets boring.

8. Try having a mind set of soloing based on the feel of "question and answer". Which means different tone or direction of the tone. Take for example when some one ask you a question, then you answer. Both sentences have a diff feel and tone. It's not monotonous so when you solo, you can do like wise as well. Example if you watch the movie DREAMGIRLS, there's alot of songs in the movie that implemented "question and answer" but only thing it's a vocal wise. So apply vocal voicing of that concept to guitar.

9. Hear lotza diff styles of music like blues, jazz, rock, metal, pop, latin, ballad and classical. Cause all the different genres have a different feel to the whole projection of the music. Start taking various styles that you like and make it your own.

10. Think outside the box. Just let loose and don't think of what to play. JUST PLAY IT.

11. Get various different songs and practice your solo run on it.

This post has been edited by ken0777: Sep 11 2007, 10:22 AM
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post Sep 11 2007, 11:57 AM

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sometimes just humming or singing out a tune while playing the rhythm can produce some nice melodies as a backbone for your solos. your mouth is more skillful than your hands... (gosh that sounds dirty)

melody is important! you can create beautiful melodies with just 1 pentatonic box.

 

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