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Jean72
post May 24 2008, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(howszat @ May 24 2008, 03:31 PM)
Distributions makes no difference whatsoever to the total value of the fund.

It's pointless to know when distributions happen, apart from the annoying need to take it into account when looking at fund performance.
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howszat,

distribution doesn't affect the value of the fund, yes..it is correct. But it is wrong to say that distribution is completely pointless and annoying
Jean72
post May 24 2008, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(howszat @ May 24 2008, 03:49 PM)
From a practical investor perspective, the total value is the same - therefore it is pointless.

With distributions, you cannot take prices at two points in time and compute a percentage figure. Many Fund managers don't tell you what the distribution is and when it happens. Those who do tell you (ie for investors), it is often much later after the fact. Therefore it is annoying.

So, which bit is wrong?
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ok. let discuss this. Why div is not pointless. It doesn't increse the total value of the fund, agreed.

BUT, if you opt to reinvest your given div, you are investing with zero cost, ie. no service charge, unlike you investing your fresh money. Hence, you get more units with cheaper cost. Then when you are given div next year again, you are being paid based on the total number of units that you have. Reinvest your div will allow you to enjoy compounding effect - ie. div next year is being paid not only on the initial invested units but also the distributed div portion, and so on and so forth

Regarding the percentage profit, basically it doesn't affect your calculation if you opt to reinvest your money again. Only you have more units, that's it.

Afterall, it really is not hard to work on the profit percentage even after the distribution. Just check with your agent. Agents should have the system to tell you your fund performance anytime.
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post May 24 2008, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 24 2008, 04:21 PM)
It is still the same, feeling not the same only, actually if fund didn't give distribution (they use the money to reinvest themselves) then you still yield the same compound return as you mentioned, unless you take the distribution as cash then different story that you don't have the compound effect.

Invest in UT, primary focus is on their ability of NAV increment over the time, others actually are pointless already whether it is distribution, bonus/split unit, don't need to care much.
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Theoritically is the same if the fund manager reinvest the amount. But we are seeing many different type of investors. Some older folk will let to have their yearly dividend as pocket money. Those who dont' need it, then just re-invest

So, it really is not pointless to some.
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post May 24 2008, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 24 2008, 04:41 PM)
Yes, that's why I said feeling not the same only. Actual real effect on $$ is same, not just theorectically.

The effect of distribution is same as selling a few unit when its NAV increased  (and keep on same net amount of UT which is as same as your principal sum) which by then treat yourself as dividend.  flex.gif

I know some prefer to have distribution which people treat it like FD interest for pocket money, that's fine, not much arguement as individual has individual preferences, just try to educate people the same effect. As I see a handful of people ask for whether got distribution or when is the distribution to decide to invest in certain fund which is not the right way and pointless thing to look at for your decision making to invest a fund.

Cheers.  smile.gif
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Yes! all of us are just here trying to share a bit of our knowledge for the benefit of all
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post May 24 2008, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(howszat @ May 24 2008, 04:46 PM)
It is still pointless. You can easily just withdraw some units if you want pocket money.


Added on May 24, 2008, 4:47 pm
Yes, your understanding of how UT works need adjusting.
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yes. but just a point to share here. withdrawing will lessen your invested units, which ultimately will reduce your next div entitlement which paid based on units.



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