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SKY 1809
post Jan 14 2008, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(leekk8 @ Jan 14 2008, 01:48 PM)
How you all can get the PE of KLCI? You ownself calculate it or get the data from elsewhere?

Since many PM funds investing in oversea now, should we monitor the PE of whole world market?
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I based my PE from PM. Other stock broking banks have them too, but there is no standardisation like the ISO. So you may get confused if you compare here and there.

PM do have PEs for regional markets, and the the benchmarks Hang Seng etc. PM is not investing all over the world, so world PE is a bit out.

But, in USA, they have world index ex US and US index, Asia ex Japan etc. Indexes too could be used to measure stocks performance. But KLCI is at 1500pts all time high, so measurement by index is a bit obsolete for the time being.

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post Jan 14 2008, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(leekk8 @ Jan 14 2008, 12:48 PM)
How you all can get the PE of KLCI? You ownself calculate it or get the data from elsewhere?

Since many PM funds investing in oversea now, should we monitor the PE of whole world market?
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We would not want to confuse our clients by all these PE talks, because this should be the worry of fund managers.
We (agents and investors) do not have to worry about the PE at all, as we're not managing the portfolio.
So, we should get it clear and stop the PE discussions here, agree? smile.gif
I believe there are still many beginners here, and our job is to make them understand the basic and benefits of UT.
So, lets continue our PM talk aye? laugh.gif
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post Jan 14 2008, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(Jordy @ Jan 14 2008, 05:04 PM)
We would not want to confuse our clients by all these PE talks, because this should be the worry of fund managers.
We (agents and investors) do not have to worry about the PE at all, as we're not managing the portfolio.
So, we should get it clear and stop the PE discussions here, agree? smile.gif
I believe there are still many beginners here, and our job is to make them understand the basic and benefits of UT.
So, lets continue our PM talk aye? laugh.gif
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You are the big brother here. If you say so, I follow.

But in all investment plans, you need to have an exit plan. No Plan = Planning to fail. Are you the one who says it ?

"Investing is not Risky, Being out of control is Risky" . " ( Robert Kiyosaki )

icon_question.gif icon_question.gif icon_question.gif icon_question.gif Don"t leave your clients to suffer after investing with you laugh.gif They will come back to haunt you in your dreams ! rclxub.gif

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Jordy
post Jan 14 2008, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jan 14 2008, 04:14 PM)
You are the big brother here. If you say so, I follow.

But in all investment plans, you need to have an exit plan. No Plan = Planning to fail. Are you the one who says it ?

"Investing is not Risky, Being out of control is Risky" . " Each Plan has a Price"

icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif Don"t leave your clients suffer after investing with you laugh.gif
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Come on, as an agent you should know that UT was "initially" meant for passive and long-term investment.
I only look for clients who have a timeframe of at least 2 years.
Those with timeframe of less than 2 years, I would suggest them to invest somewhere else.
This is done to protect their money, as I would like all my clients to enjoy the same benefits that I have enjoyed.
As I have mentioned before, the reason I became agent is not to earn money, but I want to help others to save and earn.
If you're different from other agents, then you stand to have a better chance to stand out.

One thing that I have to clarify here. I am no big brother, as I have no rank here smile.gif
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post Jan 15 2008, 03:55 PM

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post Jan 15 2008, 11:22 PM

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post Jan 16 2008, 03:59 PM

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market keep in downtrend for da pass 3 days...
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QUOTE(spermatogenesis @ Jan 16 2008, 03:59 PM)
market keep in downtrend for da pass 3 days...
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I do not really worry about the short term trend.
As long as what I am investing in is profitable in the long term, it is still better than keeping in the safe smile.gif
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post Jan 16 2008, 07:01 PM

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tomolo my pcsf => 0.22x rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(mynewuser @ Jan 16 2008, 07:01 PM)
tomolo my pcsf => 0.22x rclxub.gif
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That is not so good isn't it?
I know the feeling too, but luckily my impact is not that great as I have locked in 20% of my investment.
Now I am looking for chance to lock in the other portions part by part.
Maybe you could cut loss if your loss is not that great?
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post Jan 17 2008, 07:44 AM

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QUOTE(mynewuser @ Jan 16 2008, 07:01 PM)
tomolo my pcsf => 0.22x rclxub.gif
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You're not the only one who is crying for this.

Should I perform any topup?
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post Jan 17 2008, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Jan 17 2008, 07:44 AM)
You're not the only one who is crying for this.

Should I perform any topup?
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I would wait till Friday before deciding to top up....might go down some more

2nite Merril Lynch will post their 4Q result.

I have ady expected 1st Quarter of 2008 to be like this.... sweat.gif Just keep alert on wat happening, and do the necessary if needed...hopefully things wont be too bad
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post Jan 17 2008, 11:41 AM

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It's pretty bloody for yesterday. Most of the funds declined significantly.
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post Jan 17 2008, 11:53 AM

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another red day
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i'm buying some PBCPEF to keep liao tomolo! SOoooo cheap
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It is a wrong perception of buying a fund just because it "looks cheap".
There are more to it then just the NAV when choosing an investment, eg the future prospects, sustainability, developments and fundamentals.
These are the important aspects to look out for to avoid regretting later.
Some funds appear expensive but if the fundamentals are intact, then there is still large room for the fund to grow.
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post Jan 17 2008, 09:59 PM

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which is the best fund to buy right now? public bank?
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post Jan 17 2008, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(shinyu @ Jan 17 2008, 09:59 PM)
which is the best fund to buy right now? public bank?
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I would say those moderate-risk income fund looks good...PDSF, PFEDF, PIDF


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