Public Mutual, PM/PB series fund
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 Oct 12 2007, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE(leekk8 @ Oct 12 2007, 10:05 AM) For those investors who always make top up or switching, it's good they can do it using ebanking/telemutual instead of depending on agent. What's the point of paying upfront service charge if everything needs to be DIY?   |
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Oct 12 2007, 10:31 AM
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1,997 posts Joined: Jul 2007 From: Kuala Lumpur 
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QUOTE(lwb @ Oct 12 2007, 09:48 AM) both of you guys have valid points regarding an agents' prioritization towards client servicing.. Speaking of entertainment, here's a story my boss once shared with mei can't say for certain the differences between a high net worth client over a lesser one.. i believe it's not easy to earn money from the high-net worth clients (but it may cost the agents more in terms of entertainment expenses/overheads) My boss had a female friend. She is quite pretty, young and decent. She said when do business, things must be done in a professional way. Service and follow up is important One day she became a UT agent. My boss bought around RM20k just to give face. At that time, my boss's previous MD is a big timer and multi millionaire. One day the MD met a pretty girl who is a UT agent. The MD said she is hot, sexy and is 'available' (if u know what i mean). So this MD bought quite a lot from her One evening at a hotel where the MD and the girl where having a 'meeting' there, the MD said to the girl that he knows another rich investor (which is my boss). She is keen to know, so the MD called my boss to go to the hotel to meetup. The MD told my boss that there can be 'Free' dinner with her. Be prepared When my boss arrived there, he was shocked to see the agent to be his friend. She is wearing so sexy. She was also shocked to see my boss. I think she got embarrassed, after that she never contacted my boss again |
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Oct 12 2007, 10:57 AM
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1,351 posts Joined: Mar 2006 From: KL/S'gor
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Selling 'urself' juz to get sales fr rich guy is really a sad thing...
Maybe she juz lost herself in the race to get more $$...Ai~~ |
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Oct 12 2007, 12:23 PM
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1,997 posts Joined: Jul 2007 From: Kuala Lumpur
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   KLCI All Time & Current High: 24/07/2007 1392.18 Correction Low : 17/08/2007 1191.55 This post has been edited by dzi921: Oct 12 2007, 12:28 PM |
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Oct 12 2007, 01:34 PM
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1,997 posts Joined: Jul 2007 From: Kuala Lumpur
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Just called Telemutual, but it says system is busy. Have to try so many times before managed to get my turn
My guess today a lot of people is doing switching  |
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Oct 12 2007, 03:43 PM
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1,504 posts Joined: Apr 2007 From: Petaling Jaya
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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Oct 12 2007, 01:34 PM) Just called Telemutual, but it says system is busy. Have to try so many times before managed to get my turn the interesting question is.. why?My guess today a lot of people is doing switching |
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Oct 12 2007, 03:51 PM
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188 posts Joined: May 2006
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Is there any LYM could tell me wat this is MSCI AC (All Country) Far East ex Japan Index and do your have link for this...cos i search at google but cannot find
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Oct 12 2007, 04:29 PM
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52,874 posts Joined: Jan 2003
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Dear Unitholder,
We are pleased to attach the market wrap for the week ended 5 October 2007 for your information. Regards Customer Service |
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Oct 12 2007, 05:32 PM
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1,997 posts Joined: Jul 2007 From: Kuala Lumpur
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QUOTE(lwb @ Oct 12 2007, 03:43 PM) the interesting question is.. why? The easy answer... Kiasi |
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Oct 12 2007, 11:16 PM
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1,351 posts Joined: Mar 2006 From: KL/S'gor
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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Oct 12 2007, 01:34 PM) Just called Telemutual, but it says system is busy. Have to try so many times before managed to get my turn This week alone i've done few switching for my clients...not kiasi, but wan to ride on the china tide. All go for PCSF.. My guess today a lot of people is doing switching  PCSF made all other funds look so slow... some ady complained that PFEPRF are too slow, although it already break even in about 2 months time  |
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Oct 12 2007, 11:22 PM
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5,626 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Klang, Selangor
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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Oct 12 2007, 07:53 AM) Of course Money talks. Imagine if you have 100 clients under your account. How can you find time to serve them all. Sure you will bias to serve those richer clients Hehe, try investing through me and you'll know the difference..Since you will become an Agent soon... proof it that you can do otherwise lor  But my service would be limited at the moment, as I'm still studying.. My weekends will be fully booked with appointments, so I could miss out some out of choice.. QUOTE(lwb @ Oct 12 2007, 09:48 AM) both of you guys have valid points regarding an agents' prioritization towards client servicing.. You need a longer time to convince high networth clients IMO because they're better at managing their money..i can't say for certain the differences between a high net worth client over a lesser one.. i believe it's not easy to earn money from the high-net worth clients (but it may cost the agents more in terms of entertainment expenses/overheads) So you'll need to show them what they've missed out in their diversification.. Poorer people, just show them the inflation and the need for saving for future.. QUOTE(I_bryan @ Oct 12 2007, 03:51 PM) Is there any LYM could tell me wat this is MSCI AC (All Country) Far East ex Japan Index and do your have link for this...cos i search at google but cannot find MSCI AC is the benchmark for Far East funds..These includes HK, China, Taiwan and SEA countries.. |
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Oct 12 2007, 11:31 PM
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5,626 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Klang, Selangor
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Just calculated my profit = 8.6k, an increase of 1.7k..
But I repurchased my PBEPEF, so an opportunity cost of RM825..  |
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Oct 13 2007, 02:07 AM
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52,874 posts Joined: Jan 2003
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QUOTE(kingkong81 @ Oct 12 2007, 11:16 PM) This week alone i've done few switching for my clients...not kiasi, but wan to ride on the china tide. All go for PCSF.. PFEPRF performance is not consistent. It tries to break-even but cannot sustain; couple of times that its NAV dropped back to below 0.2636. PCSF made all other funds look so slow... some ady complained that PFEPRF are too slow, although it already break even in about 2 months time |
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Oct 13 2007, 11:49 AM
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Elite
5,626 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Klang, Selangor
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QUOTE(kingkong81 @ Oct 12 2007, 11:16 PM) This week alone i've done few switching for my clients...not kiasi, but wan to ride on the china tide. All go for PCSF.. I sure hope your clients got into it still in time.. PCSF made all other funds look so slow... some ady complained that PFEPRF are too slow, although it already break even in about 2 months time But they're doing switching, so it's fine.. Like I just switched from PFEPRF into PFEDF, already profitted RM500+ on 1st day.. PFEPRF is definitely slow because it invests mostly in property equity and REITS.. So, the return is slower now that the property market is quieter.. |
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Oct 14 2007, 08:19 AM
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1,059 posts Joined: Mar 2006 From: KL
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QUOTE(David83 @ Oct 12 2007, 10:25 AM) What's the point of paying upfront service charge if everything needs to be DIY? Service charge is definitely too high currently in Msia. Anyway, service charge is the income of the agent and agent provide service and recommendations to investors. DIY on switching, because telemutual is the fastest way to switch a fund, instead of the agent need to get your signature and submit the form everytime you switch. |
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Oct 14 2007, 11:15 AM
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Elite
5,626 posts Joined: Nov 2004 From: Klang, Selangor
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QUOTE(leekk8 @ Oct 14 2007, 08:19 AM) Service charge is definitely too high currently in Msia. Anyway, service charge is the income of the agent and agent provide service and recommendations to investors. I have some presigned forms in my agent's hand..DIY on switching, because telemutual is the fastest way to switch a fund, instead of the agent need to get your signature and submit the form everytime you switch. So everytime I call she'll do the switching for me immediately.. If you got the unethical agents, then I would agree using telemutual.. I have no problem going through my agent anyways.. |
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Oct 16 2007, 08:37 PM
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1,997 posts Joined: Jul 2007 From: Kuala Lumpur
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   KLCI All Time & Current High: 24/07/2007 1392.18 Correction Low : 17/08/2007 1191.55 |
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Oct 17 2007, 12:13 PM
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1,997 posts Joined: Jul 2007 From: Kuala Lumpur
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   KLCI All Time & Current High: 24/07/2007 1392.18 Correction Low : 17/08/2007 1191.55 |
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Oct 17 2007, 12:33 PM
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4,325 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Putra Heights, Selangor DE 
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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Oct 12 2007, 10:31 AM) Speaking of entertainment, here's a story my boss once shared with me What do you mean Free dinner?My boss had a female friend. She is quite pretty, young and decent. She said when do business, things must be done in a professional way. Service and follow up is important One day she became a UT agent. My boss bought around RM20k just to give face. At that time, my boss's previous MD is a big timer and multi millionaire. One day the MD met a pretty girl who is a UT agent. The MD said she is hot, sexy and is 'available' (if u know what i mean). So this MD bought quite a lot from her One evening at a hotel where the MD and the girl where having a 'meeting' there, the MD said to the girl that he knows another rich investor (which is my boss). She is keen to know, so the MD called my boss to go to the hotel to meetup. The MD told my boss that there can be 'Free' dinner with her. Be prepared When my boss arrived there, he was shocked to see the agent to be his friend. She is wearing so sexy. She was also shocked to see my boss. I think she got embarrassed, after that she never contacted my boss again |
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Oct 17 2007, 12:36 PM
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17,053 posts Joined: Jan 2003
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QUOTE(Jordy @ Oct 13 2007, 11:49 AM) I sure hope your clients got into it still in time.. wow you really rich dude But they're doing switching, so it's fine.. Like I just switched from PFEPRF into PFEDF, already profitted RM500+ on 1st day.. PFEPRF is definitely slow because it invests mostly in property equity and REITS.. So, the return is slower now that the property market is quieter..  QUOTE(newbi3s @ Oct 17 2007, 12:33 PM) What do you mean Free dinner? why you never think 1 |
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