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Maria Takagi
post Mar 8 2021, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Mar 5 2021, 09:12 PM)
so how now cyber town?

taco bell also not open yet
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jassaaa not set up office there ?

got lots of job opportunities yo
Maria Takagi
post Mar 8 2021, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(DiRecToRofSaTaN @ Mar 7 2021, 10:10 AM)
Msia is in dire needs of  more foreign investors ... with the turmoil in Msia admin ... there are far from hope to recover ... if any ,,,

Lets get back to the normal slogan nowdays for Msia
"All is under control " ...

Does that portray the true conditions?
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we need to change this mindset

we should not be drawing investors

we should be the investor !!!!

look at our local brands, how have they grown under so many years of toot toot administration ?

S Korea is investing overseas with their various local brands - using k pop - like btc to promote their products n services to rest of the world.

MNCs come n go, according to big market n low cost

don't rely on them

we need to be the MNC

for this reason, no matter how sucky you think our local brands n corps r, we gotta support them to grow into MNCs. They are what we only got to grow our economy. Dun talk about Malaysia airlines or any other GLCs out there, they dun seem to be supporting into a proper MNC.
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post Mar 8 2021, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Mar 8 2021, 09:57 AM)
the first step to do that is to acquire technology from others either through partnerships or investments which translates to fdi. the other alternative is to figure it out yourself thru r&d. so far i have only seen hysteria kit.
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we been thru n done that

just not successfully

Silterra
Potong
perodua
MEC

just some of the names that ring a bell
we had our chances back in 1990s and early 2000s, investors are not coming back n open their skirts to allow us to peep up their panties for their technological secrets
they are all going to China to sell their backside
we got nothing to offer to them now.

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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Mar 8 2021, 10:03 AM)
i'm just telling u, u can't conjure out an MNC out of thin air. otherwise everyone would have done it and there will be no poor nations
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which is why it is so damn difficult

and there is a long road to get us out of this middle income trap

so far see the current goman, don't seem they have any idea what they doing to turn us around - Assmin ? just reporting we have investment coming in but in fact we're the lowest performer in the whole SEA.

we r not like India already got an army of well skilled cheap IT labor.
most of what we have, most likely went to Sweden, Aust, Singapore, USA to work for better opportunities.
then racing everyday, scare whatever potential entrepreneur we have.
Look at how Air Asia is treated, suspect one day they may get frustrated n move their HQ overseas.
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post Mar 9 2021, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Mar 8 2021, 08:40 PM)
After what they had experience in China, you think they will be so stupid again?
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yeah the Western MNCs are really that stupid
they are all motivated by short term gains
there been reports of many MNCs willing to give up their intellectual property to China in exchange for access to the big China market
that is why Trump was trying to stop it by punishing MNCs trying to do that
China is using pressure to force MNCs to open up their secrets.
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post Mar 9 2021, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Mar 9 2021, 10:31 AM)
They aren't stupid. They thought they can exploit China, but little do they know China don't give a fucuk about copy right. China ain't going to play by the book.

Let me give you an examples. China offered Japan Kawasaki to buy they bullet train and rail, where Japan send their engineer there to help built the infrastructure. Ok, got profit, who don't want right? Later China copy it , and Kawasaki cannot do shit to China. Cannot sue them. So JR and Hitachi built 1% of the hsr and remaining 99% done by Chinese company stealing other technology.
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this was what exactly mamakthir wanted to do. Set up JVs n MNCs come here, then we learn slowly slowly develop our own technologies.

but 2 factors failed because:
1) hahahaha you know why lah. we are synonymous with failure.
2) our glorious 1990s was cut short by currency crisis attack and then China's emergence cause all greedy MNCs to pack their bags and move to China

It doesn't matter, now China is just too strong. They should have done a trump on them right from the start. What Trump did was trying to erase the past mistakes by enforcing China to follow the rules. But they don't.

Still many MNCs are falling prey to intellectual property stealing, so as we speak.
when half of the western MNCs have their business, R&D and facilities in China, also means half of their employees in sensitive areas are from PRC. Matter of time, PRC would catch up.

So the stupid ones that fall to greed are the western MNCs.
If they are smart, they would spread their risks and move back some of their operations to South East Asia
but no no, they all want to mengaut untung in China.
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post Mar 9 2021, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Mar 9 2021, 01:38 PM)
Instead of Western mnc is stupid, I'll say China is smart. Particularly what China did is they sacrifice short term gain to get long term gain.

Allow me to explain, in Malaysia, we invited mnc in. Then we tax them kaw kaw, no freebies. In China, they invited mnc, then give freebies, then mnc move more and more of their department into China and finally the most valuable R&D is moved into China.

In laymen terms, is something like a boss go car wash, the carwash say ok I wash your car and vacuum your car for free ok? Boss said, sure vacuum it clean please since it's free. Then the carwash said how about polish at half price, ok polish as well. Then how about I service your car for 50% of normal mechanic? But I'm no mechanics, you need teach me. Good deal. So the carwash from simple manual labor of carwash transform to mechanics services. Once they learned skill to be mechanics , no more 50% discount, they can give 20% discount, but still cheaper than other place.

Thing is it's Malaysian willing to do vacuum for free? Willing to polish car for half price? Willing to service car at 50% rate? No. We don't. So we will only be car washer.
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it is also market size

china is like 2000 cars a day go to the shop to wash car

msia is like 20 cars a day go to shop to wash car

you think the franchise owner of car wash want to teach shop with 2000/day customer or 20/day customer to open mechanic service ?

therefore msia learning curve must be fast to acquire the knowledge transfer

unfortunately we no japan or s korea, so we r left far behind.

even Indonesia can at least get 200/day customer, how can we compete ?
of course u know lah we know lah, why we r far behind.
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post Mar 9 2021, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Mar 9 2021, 02:53 PM)
The problem is that there are so many MNC in the same sector. If one doesn't transfer technology to China, another one will.

Take high speed rail for example: Japanese refused to transfer technology to China, but Europeans did. Now China has leapfrog both Japan and Europe.
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I don't think so

China still has a lot to learn

for eg, their new airliner, needs jet engine and instrumental equipment from USA
China still behind in chip manufacturing, but catching up.


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post Mar 9 2021, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(wanted111who @ Mar 9 2021, 03:16 PM)
Well, I'll not say local market will be a factor to attract mnc. MNC don't mind local market anyway, if there is local market it is a plus. We losing to Vietnam, Philippines. I'm sure our local market is better. Things that was research and developed in China wasn't meant for China market anyway, the target is the consumer from the West.
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Yes we r losing competitiveness.

sorry to say lah, I see our productivity, so poor.

Even the british work from 830 to 530, the americans call them lazy, are much much better than us.

I go to HK and work, whenever I bring up issue, they all got ownership of work

here ? all wanna taichi taichi and working in silos.
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post Mar 9 2021, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(agewisdom @ Mar 9 2021, 09:17 PM)
You must compare in terms of our spiritual strength and superior moral culture. We are morally and spiritually superior. In afterlife, we will win.

So definitely we're no. 1 in the spiritual league. Forget about materialism and current benchmarks. It's obsolete.

Malaysia no. 1! Syabas!
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So if afterlife u will win

Why dun u stop wasting ur time talking to me

U go 14 floor n u be on the express highway to afterlife

There u become successful

Dun waste ur time here




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post Mar 10 2021, 07:27 AM

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QUOTE(agewisdom @ Mar 10 2021, 12:03 AM)
You are the one wasting your time. Majority of Malaysians believe in spiritual strength... so, please migrate so you don't pollute Malaysia with materialism.
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You spiritual doesnt mean you cant be productive

You should be the one to migrate to your afterlife, u give all sort of excuses not to work.

The 10th century muslim scholar who produce al.khatib is said to be tje 1st manual for western surgery. He lived in cordoba and lived spiritually

Pls dun associate urself with ppl with spiritual strength, u r an embarasement to them. U dun speak for their behalf.

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post Mar 10 2021, 07:35 AM

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Putting agewisdom in my ignore list.



This dude should open new thread about afterlife, n migrate to afterlife...

Evrryone pls put him in ur ignore list.

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post Mar 10 2021, 07:37 AM

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QUOTE(JimbeamofNRT @ Mar 10 2021, 12:08 AM)
from IBM to afterlife story

man.. /k/ never failed to entertained me...
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Put this dude in ur ignore list

Let him migrate to next life
Maria Takagi
post Mar 10 2021, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(DiRecToRofSaTaN @ Mar 10 2021, 11:54 AM)
In case you havent realize,  the best Msia brand is  actually started in oversea. One of them like Jimmy Cho  and the rest ... 
And how are we going to be investor when Msia right now is even behind Vietnam ...  come on ... viet ... ???? 

When compare to Cinsiapo we always will say , we cant compare since they are too small and in control  but the facts is they are drawing investor left and right.
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Yup agree

there is one dude here that was smoking on very high weed, I put him on ignore list - totally off topic, talking about spiritual more important and saying that we are insulting him and the people he represent.

Spiritual people are actually hard working people. He is really insulting spiritual people when he say they r not hard working.

He should migrate to Afganistan.

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