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post Mar 12 2021, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(slkoh @ Mar 12 2021, 11:51 AM)
Uncle YS indeed drove the Ativa very hard, taking only 12 min 06 sec (4:56 to 17:02) from Guard House to Guard House. This beats both the Almera's 12 min 29 sec (4:59 to 17:28) and X50's 12 min 12 sec (4:17 to 16:29). For comparison, MyVi took 13 min 02 sec (3:03 to 16:05) beating a VW Scirocco along the way, and G20 330i did in heavy traffic 14 min 14 sec (1:42 to 15:56).
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With YS behind the wheel of Ativa, one gets to see the speed of the car is travelling. At one point at the last leg it was hitting 151km/h uphill. Going downhill saw YS hits 122km/h maneuvering a tight corner. For a SUV to be able to go for those speed I think it is pretty ok for day to day usage. Watched some of YS' videos like Vios, City and, etc, anyone gets to see how fast the cars were going ?
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post Mar 12 2021, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Mar 12 2021, 02:46 PM)
u got racing talent. know to watch speedometer
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Bro, with other cars YS test run, he didn't show the speedometer. But, with Ativa he outright showed it. That's why I asked here.
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post Mar 13 2021, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(ayamstim @ Mar 13 2021, 08:23 AM)
Yes, I received my car already from an outlet in Subang Jaya, picking it up this morning.
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Congratulations, Bro on your Ativa. Please share your journey from booking to delivery. And, also How's your experience with your Ativa? Thanks
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post Mar 14 2021, 08:33 AM

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Thanks, ayamstim for sharing. Cheers
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post Mar 14 2021, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(freeman1 @ Mar 13 2021, 11:51 PM)
Apparently the p2 salesman requested him to push the car to its limit as the sales are not overwhelming
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The way the Ativa handles round those corners are still very impressive despite its height. Saw a few of his videos on other models closely, didn't encounter any touching 150km/h uphill or 122km/h downhill. Saw a guy testing 0 - 100km/h with 11.23sec. Think it is not too shabby.
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post Mar 14 2021, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(freeman1 @ Mar 14 2021, 11:08 AM)
The car seems like almost wana break apart, the engine and tyre sounds are crazy scary in the genting run. The 0-100km/h in 11.xx secs was done in sport mode, else it's about 15 secs in normal mode, gg to the engine and fuel consumption if driving in sport mode everyday.
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I believe given any segment of cars with this kind of driving style will likely to break apart too. Remember those Nissan Sentra ploughing GH? They changed their manual gearboxes every 6 months.
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post Mar 14 2021, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(ayamstim @ Mar 14 2021, 11:15 PM)
Exactly. The car feels solidly built to me, but even a tank can fall apart from excessive abuse. I truly don't understand why people expect or even demand supercar performance from a compact SUV...
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Can't agree more with you. Really can't nick pick with the kind of bells and whistles with the Ativa. Read that the VW Tiguan AllSpace cost 208K does not have any safety features related ASA 3.0.
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post Mar 15 2021, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(ayamstim @ Mar 15 2021, 09:03 PM)
Makes sense, actually. Wouldn't be surprised if Perodua intentionally made the suspension stiffer not only because of the lower ground clearance, but also due to feedback from noisy owners of previous gen Myvis who complained incessantly about the car feeling floaty when taking corners at high speeds.

Have you complained about this to Perodua whenever you sent your car in for servicing? What did they say? Can they help adjust your suspension to make it softer? Can't do much about tyres apart from replacing them or playing around with the pressure levels, but maybe they could do something about the springs, shock absorbers, struts, etc.

So far I've driven the Ativa around Subang Jaya, PJ, KLCC, and find it does indeed feel more comfortable to drive over our uneven and bumpy Malaysian roads. It's been only 3 days though, will see how it feels like 3 months down the road.
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Which variant is your Ativa, Bro?
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post Mar 16 2021, 07:53 AM

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QUOTE(ayamstim @ Mar 15 2021, 10:43 PM)
AV. I've tested the ACC, LKC, and BSM features extensively on the ELITE, NPE, DUKE, and NKVE highways to name a few, including at night. The LKC and BSM definitely saved my shiny new ass a couple of times these few days, but I only use the ACC when there aren't many cars on the road because of slowpoke road hogs in the middle lane and speed demons in the right lane(s) make it a jarring experience.
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Nice. Bro, do you have to activate the ACC in order for the LKC to function?
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post Mar 16 2021, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(ayamstim @ Mar 16 2021, 09:06 AM)
No, I don't. LKC was functioning even when ACC was deactivated. Although I'm not sure if there is any other requirements or limitations like speed, weather, etc. It was still working at night even when I had trouble seeing where the lines on the road were due to poor lighting.
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This LKC is really good. Imagine driving at night especially.
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post Mar 16 2021, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(woodentiger86 @ Mar 16 2021, 09:25 AM)
Yes it took me awhile to really get used to my MG3.

Even before getting my car, I was using my in-laws car for about a week when my previous car was in service. Even back then I felt how come so sluggish.  sweat.gif

But lately, I've grown accustomed to the car's quirks and all and somehow became more confident in the car. Of course, it does lack some oomph and grunt sometimes but overall, it's a decent car.

I've shared some dashcam videos on the LYN G3 group previously too. brows.gif
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Which page of your videos in LYN G3? Cheers
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post Mar 17 2021, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(ayamstim @ Mar 16 2021, 09:54 PM)
Oops sorry, I got it wrong. I just went through the manual and can now confirm that LKC does not operate when the ACC is not active. I had LKC confused with LDP. A good reminder for me to RTFM the next time lol.
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No worries. So many safety features and equipments in your Ativa. Need some time to learn how to use them. Cheers
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post Apr 26 2021, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(solsekuin44 @ Apr 26 2021, 04:30 PM)
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Please advise, should I keep my 5 years old Honda City (finished the 5 years warranty) or trade it off for Ativa?
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Keep your City as it is a better car overall. The 1.0L Turbo with its D-CVT gearbox is not really fuel efficient in real life driving. No way to achieve its low FC figure as advertised. Long distance run, your City will have a much lower RPM which translates to a more comfortable and quiet drive. Space the City wins by a far margin. Just my 2 sen salt.
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post Mar 3 2022, 02:37 PM

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Anyone taken their Ativa to the highway traveling ? Can share your experiences?
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post Mar 3 2022, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(ed209 @ Mar 3 2022, 04:07 PM)
My previous car was an old c-class W203.

I've only taken the ativa up to 110-120. At those speeds, the car is much more planted than my old C.

There are both road noise and wind noise.

Engine RPM at 110 is at 2.5k rpm, and engine noise is acceptable. But at 120 at 3k rpm, i do find that it becomes noticeably louder.

Using LKC feature, is honestly abit of a let down. Not because of high expectations that the car should be autonomous in centering the lane, but the steering for some very odd reason, loosens up a tad bit that it makes centering the car with your own hands, noticeably more difficult than without LKC.

What i mean is that, at high speeds and without LKC, the steering tightens up, but when LKC is turned on, the magnets controlling the tightening loosens up that it now creates small but very noticeable "play" and "give" in the steering that prevents gradual inputs to the steering.

What essentially happens is unnecessary or unintended steering to the left or right. So manually centering the car in your lane becomes abit of a chore. You end up with more mini left and right, basically more work from your hands to keep it centered.
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Thanks, Bro for sharing your experience. Quite surprise with the W203 chassis.
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post Mar 3 2022, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(ed209 @ Mar 3 2022, 05:54 PM)
Yea my W203 is really old, it was a used car when my parents bought it back in '06. Drove that thing all the way until 2022.

I replaced the shock absorbers, most likely OEM, so i'm not sure if that resulted in a more softer hence less planted highway cruising experience.

The W203 is significantly softer on my bum when it comes to pot holes and uneven road compared to the Ativa.
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How is your experience on the day to day drive in the city ? How's the suspension ?
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post Mar 4 2022, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(ed209 @ Mar 4 2022, 11:39 AM)
I think there was someone who asked if it was noticeable when the CVT transmission switches between planetary gear and belt mode and the answer to that is actually yes.

After driving the car for a few days I could tell that 1st gear is always planetary gear mode, once you hit the required RPM for the transmission to shift up, its belt mode from then on.

I guess that's Daihatsu's solution to solve CVT's rubberbanding and whining issues. But the downside is, you can really tell when you're in planetary gear mode because you'd feel the usual sensation of both engine braking and shift shock. So if you're stuck in traffic, the car will behave like your usual AT car.

But whats quirkier with the D-CVT transmission is, i find it slightly difficult to perform 2k rpm accelerations in CVT mode. The car feels programmed in a way where it has strong preference to remain below 2k rpm or above 2k rpm. It almost feels like driving, what i would assume, a car in Eco mode, where power requires alot more depression in the pedal. Perhaps the car is setup in this manner, a "default always on" Eco mode and hence the power button. But i'd like it if the car would make it easier for me to catch 2k rpm.

And if the above description is a description of the D-CVT's quirkiness, let me tell you what i actually dislike when the D-CVT is paired with the 3 cylinder engine. Vibrations. And i dont mean vibrations at idle. The Ativa's vibration at idle is really no biggie at all. It tends to vibrate more on Drive, but when you put it into Neutral, it vibrates alot lesser. I find it extremely tolerable. What i cannot tolerate is engine vibration when the car is on the go (honestly very surprised that ZERO reviewers mentioned this). As mentioned above, the car LOVES to stay below 2k rpm. And unfortunately, this is where the vibration only occurs. The vibration isn't atrocious, but you CAN hear it, I would describe it as a higher frequency but low amplitude rumble. I dont have much experience in driving 3 cylinders, but if anyone drove the VW Beetle A5, then you'd know what i mean (although Beetle A5 isnt 3 cylinders). I find this rumble extremely strange, the car is not shaking, its just quietly rumbling, and it rumbles enough to cause cabin rattle noises when the road becomes rougher (i mean in road grain not pot holes).

Power wise, really nothing to complain, I dont expect my car to accelerate like a Civic, but that power button is quite addictive. Since the throttle is setup in a way that requires more push to the pedal to accelerate, its fun to just hit the power button and do a 3k rpm acceleration. Getting up to 80km/hr is a breeze. At 3k rpm, the engine isnt very loud.

Suspension, ride handling, NVH wise. The Ativa is miles behind compared to an HRV or the x50, definitely a jump forward against the myvi, but unfortunately, i cannot say that its on par with current gen City, Vios, Yaris and Almera. The new sedan B segments handle pot holes and rough roads far better than the Ativa. The Ativa is stiff, but im sure there's more to a suspension and ride handling set up to just being "stiff". I'm not a car engineer but I would say the Ativa's suspension set up isnt anymore sophisticated than my old W203. Both cars I would never send it through rough roads like a HRV without even slowing down, well the W203 maybe more since its much softer, but both Ativa and W203 isnt set up like the HRV. Its not conquering any rough roads for sure. I would say the Ativa feels in between the 5th and 6th gen honda city but leaning more towards the 5th gen. The Ativa can definitely do with some vibration damping pads because over very grainy roads, you can feel it, and on very specific parking ramps with those big gaps in the road, it creates a very loud resonance in the cabin that gives me a slight headache.

Overall, all the oddities and downside that I've described with the car, I still find them tolerable. But what i cannot tolerate is cabin rattling. My car is not even 2 months old and its already rattling and !@#$ its annoying. If i can solve my cabin rattling noises, i'd gladly say im happy with the car.
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I suspect that this Ativa is not really retuned to suit our driving habits and/or road conditions. This is JDM car and in Japan the speed limit is 80km/h. Therefore, the gear changes is preferred at 2k RPM could be the reason you face here. There was a lot of talks about DNGA aka TNGA chassis but nothing beats first hand information from actual users.
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post Mar 16 2022, 12:31 PM

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Would like to know Ativa's brakes. How responsive are they ?
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QUOTE(ed209 @ Mar 17 2022, 12:07 AM)
I would say they are alright. Nothing special, gets the job done of stopping the car.

But yes, the brakes require that you step further on them before it starts biting.

At this point I can only assume that its just a matter of a different setup compared to other car manufacturers, unless someone does a brake test comparison.

So its just something to get used to.

I think whats potentially annoying are the positioning of the pedals.

Most cars, the throttle pedal is almost to the furthest right in the foot well, but the Ativa positions it more to the left that it nearly becomes center and the brake pedal is slightly on the left side.

Futhermore, the pedals have a very soft angle, compared to my w203, the throttle pedal is almost vertical, allowing you to rest your foot on your heel. A soft angle pedal forces me to activate my feet muscles instead in order to keep the angle of my foot relative to the pedal and it requires further muscle activation when i need to lift off.

Most likely something i need to get used to which i gradually am, but the first 2-3 weeks of driving the car was really tiring on my right foot.

One last note about the location of the throttle pedals, its so strangely close to the center that sometimes when braking, i realise my slippers are really close to the throttle pedal that its touching it.

Edit: apparently dont know my left from my right.
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Thanks for sharing. I think the brake force is similar to the Myvi generation 3. About the throttle pedal being too close to the left or center close to the brake pedal reminds me of the Kembara.
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post Mar 21 2022, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(ed209 @ Mar 18 2022, 02:05 PM)
i see, since the ativa is identical to the g3 in weight, shouldnt be an issue then.

btw, have you test driven an ativa before?
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Yeah.

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