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post Mar 1 2021, 04:56 PM, updated 5y ago

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In JP, Daihatsu Rocky/Toyota Raize is marketed as a A segment crossover. Why in Malaysia it is position as a B segment crossoever?

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post Mar 1 2021, 04:58 PM

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Malaysian don't care.

as long as price same, what ever segment almost can be compared.


Everyone gonna compare it with x50
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post Mar 1 2021, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Mar 1 2021, 04:58 PM)
Malaysian don't care.

as long as price same, what ever segment almost can be compared.
Everyone gonna compare it with x50
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So, true. Nobody cares about technical details such as segement.

No. 1 is hype, then looks (must be a little sporty), and number of features. The more features (even worthless ones), the better.
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post Mar 1 2021, 05:02 PM

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Looks shitty and fugly
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post Mar 1 2021, 05:02 PM

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because in Malaysia axia and myvi still a car
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post Mar 1 2021, 05:04 PM

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Msia suka di tipu
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post Mar 1 2021, 05:04 PM

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their aircond use touch screen , button or knob ?

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post Mar 1 2021, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(bereev @ Mar 1 2021, 05:04 PM)
their aircond use touch screen , button or knob ?
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Who cares, as long as Toyolta/Produa, Malaysians gonna be all over it.
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post Mar 1 2021, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Mar 1 2021, 05:07 PM)
Who cares, as long as Toyolta/Produa, Malaysians gonna be all over it.
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later lazada , shopee got sell the logo
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post Mar 1 2021, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(bereev @ Mar 1 2021, 05:04 PM)
their aircond use touch screen , button or knob ?
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Mix of button and knob
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post Mar 1 2021, 05:10 PM

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Japan car most popular you know. A seg is a huge market in Japan.
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post Mar 1 2021, 05:13 PM

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some pipu even compared bezza to persona
smh lor
QUOTE(pretty23 @ Mar 1 2021, 05:10 PM)
Japan car most popular you know. A seg is a huge market in Japan.
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of course lor, you see their roads. very tight and narrow
I walk there also feels like the front of my house road is bigger than their main road laugh.gif
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post Mar 1 2021, 05:16 PM

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here should be market as B segment sport car
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post Mar 1 2021, 05:18 PM

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because harga sama dengan B segment
owai....
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post Mar 1 2021, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(Stirmling @ Mar 1 2021, 05:13 PM)
some pipu even compared bezza to persona
smh lor

of course lor, you see their roads. very tight and narrow
I walk there also feels like the front of my house road is bigger than their main road laugh.gif
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not the main issue. main issue is before buy car you need have a parking lot.
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post Mar 1 2021, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(Jescon @ Mar 1 2021, 09:02 AM)
So, true. Nobody cares about technical details such as segement.

No. 1 is hype, then looks (must be a little sporty), and number of features. The more features (even worthless ones), the better.
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Wrong...in malaysia, resale value is number 1, the king of all features and specs.
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post Mar 1 2021, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(liyanakahar @ Mar 1 2021, 04:56 PM)
In JP, Daihatsu Rocky/Toyota Raize is marketed as a A segment crossover. Why in Malaysia it is position as a B segment crossoever?

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They creat new segment.. Compact B segment lar..
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post Mar 1 2021, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(pretty23 @ Mar 1 2021, 05:19 PM)
not the main issue. main issue is before buy car you need have a parking lot.
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i gone there and sometime i wonder how they got in/out of their car.. like some of their parking lot is literally oni fit for the car with surrounding walls and their own house & no way in hell the door have space to even open
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post Mar 1 2021, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(smallcrab @ Mar 1 2021, 05:02 PM)
Looks shitty and fugly
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I saw the leaks photo, as usual, Perodua always nailed it when come into cosmetics visual. Its looks quite good and big in eyes
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QUOTE(Jescon @ Mar 1 2021, 05:02 PM)
So, true. Nobody cares about technical details such as segement.

No. 1 is hype, then looks (must be a little sporty), and number of features. The more features (even worthless ones), the better.
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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Mar 1 2021, 05:20 PM)
Wrong...in malaysia, resale value is number 1, the king of all features and specs.
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#2 is jimat minyak
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post Mar 1 2021, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(jokerBear @ Mar 1 2021, 05:28 PM)
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i gone there and sometime i wonder how they got in/out of their car.. like some of their parking lot is literally oni fit for the car with surrounding walls and their own house & no way in hell the door have space to even open
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Japan law is like that. Must have own parking lot before buy new car.

Not same like malaysia, a lot shit minister and shit law make our traffic same like shit ever.
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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Mar 1 2021, 05:20 PM)
Wrong...in malaysia, resale value is number 1, the king of all features and specs.
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What's X50 resale value?

QUOTE(Lanchio @ Mar 1 2021, 05:32 PM)
#2 is jimat minyak
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This one true. hahaha, but looking at X50 figures, I'll still maintain Hype as #1
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post Mar 2 2021, 08:12 AM

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QUOTE(Jescon @ Mar 1 2021, 12:16 PM)
What's X50 resale value?
This one true. hahaha, but looking at X50 figures, I'll still maintain Hype as #1
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Tongsan car sure low


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post Mar 2 2021, 08:22 AM

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dis thing looks like a muscular kelisa to me
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post Mar 2 2021, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Mar 2 2021, 08:12 AM)
Tongsan car sure low
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hehehehe

talk kok internet dalam kampung je tahu

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post Mar 2 2021, 09:01 AM

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Perodua can just put a tong drum and call it C segment luxury eco friendly fuel saving with ADAS 10 with teh tarik hook car and people will buy.
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post Mar 2 2021, 09:04 AM

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Coz if under A the harga is just stupid. If B segment can consider
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QUOTE(Jescon @ Mar 2 2021, 12:58 AM)
hehehehe

talk kok internet dalam kampung je tahu
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post Mar 2 2021, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Mar 2 2021, 09:04 AM)
Tu dia ccp supporter butthurt triggered kek
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pundeh la u I'm a ccp supporter

butthole btul budak ni

I'm checking X70 Used Car prices, it does seem to drop quite a lot after 40,000KM : RM120k drop to RM95k after 40,000KM mileage.

The issue is, if RV was really #1, X50 wouldn't be selling this well hmm.gif
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it same like jack up axia or myvi...
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post Mar 2 2021, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Mar 2 2021, 08:12 AM)
Tongsan car sure low
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Not really. Depends how popular your car is aside model. Like Nissan, Navara seken hand value didn't drop that much compare other model.
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post Mar 2 2021, 09:28 AM

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Axia Style is A-segment suv

Ativa is B-segment suv

good enuff to make baoteng butthurt lol
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post Mar 2 2021, 10:21 AM

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daihatsu one a lil bit uglier

this will be next perotiga? laugh.gif
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post Mar 2 2021, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(Jescon @ Mar 2 2021, 01:14 AM)
pundeh la u I'm a ccp supporter

butthole btul budak ni

I'm checking X70 Used Car prices, it does seem to drop quite a lot after 40,000KM : RM120k drop to RM95k after 40,000KM mileage.

The issue is, if RV was really #1, X50 wouldn't be selling this well  hmm.gif
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X50 selling well? Its only the hype, it will very soon died down

From where I live, I have only seen ONE X50.

Now compare to myvi tand bezza that keep selling well years after years.
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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Mar 2 2021, 03:30 PM)
X50 selling well? Its only the hype, it will very soon died down

From where I live, I have only seen ONE X50.

Now compare to myvi tand bezza that keep selling well years after years.
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That's why I said hype is #1

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post Mar 2 2021, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(Jescon @ Mar 2 2021, 08:53 AM)
That's why I said hype is #1

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But it doesnt translate to the reason the total number of the car being sold.

Say there are a total of 1000 units of x50 being sold during its entire production life, the first 300 units are because of hype, the rest because of other reasons.

Then myvi, sold at 10000 units in total, 8000 units being sold reason being is because of its good RV.

Hence, RV is king, because thats what happened in malaysia.
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Same face but quality not the same
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because best selling segment in neehorn is A segment while B segment is bolehland best selling segment?

at the end of the day only 10cm Aje beza width with baoteng.
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post Mar 2 2021, 06:22 PM

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i like those japanese boxy boxy car

why dont they sell in malaysia
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post Mar 2 2021, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Mar 2 2021, 06:22 PM)
i like those japanese boxy boxy car

why dont they sell in malaysia
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Proton juara?
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QUOTE(latipbogiba @ Mar 2 2021, 06:28 PM)
Proton juara?
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more like minivan rather than a car
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QUOTE(bereev @ Mar 1 2021, 05:04 PM)
their aircond use touch screen , button or knob ?
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Voice control only. In Japanese.
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Because here, MyVi, Axia still can challenge Ferrari...
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QUOTE(ah_suknat @ Mar 2 2021, 05:41 PM)
But it doesnt translate to the reason the total number of the car being sold.

Say there are a total of 1000 units of x50 being sold during its entire production life, the first 300 units are because of hype, the rest because of other reasons.

Then myvi, sold at 10000 units in total, 8000 units being sold reason being is because of its good RV.

Hence, RV is king, because thats what happened in malaysia.
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"Then myvi, sold at 10000 units in total, 8000 units being sold reason being is because of its good RV."

Like you said, the first 1000 people bought it for RV; the rest bought it for FC - making FC #1 instead of RV.

I love the circle this is taking... hahaha

ok la:

For new cars: #1 is hype

For matured/proven cars: #1 is RV/FC

 

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