Like I said. Up to you as it doesn't concern me one bit. 

Yet, you asked me to debate with him.

Don't fuck with me la.

Answer directly yes or no first. Don't start to putar belit coz I will come back and expose u just like your pseudo science theory of intelligent design.

Do you claim god instructed mankind to worship or submit to it? Yes or no. I added "submit" coz I know u love to play word games. So i will cover all the perkataan seerti.

This is funny.

Friend, you have posted many replies, and now you asked me did I claim "god instructed mankind to worship or submit to it"?

As far as evidence is concerned, yes Muslims need to worship God.

So what is wrong with post 5112? Now that u corrected yourself when u challenged me that I claimed Islam requires to worship that god

Corrected myself? Please post my initial claim. Did I say Muslims are not required to worship God? Where?

Read back 5112. No need to spoon feed you. If u have problem with 5112 go ahead and raise it, else we close the issue as everything is said in 5112 is agreed.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method

The science method
Islam is over the roof claim. Its telling u to believe something not ordinary. Its telling u to believe a god, to worship that god,  the book from god called the Quran, and the books by humans that is approved by god called the hadiths, and to copy the behavior and actions of a human prophet assigned by it. Extremely far fetch claims! So we shouldn't just rely on a book saying all the above are true. So what will best prove Islam since is such a extraordinary claim? Scientific method of course. Coz that's the most reliable way, and proven to be so. Science have changed our lives so drastically. Not bad for a discipline that is only looking at truth in an unbias way. The historical science i doubt will be enough, coz it is just looking at documents and events. It fail at linking an event to Truth. And that's ultimately what we after. Not events, but truth. We can have lot of events that actually happened, but are they linked to the truth? Historical science may not be able to answer that, especially for absurd claims of Islam.

Post #5112
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=103698281
Not addressing the issue.

What's the issue?

The claim that your god instructs you to worship it is true.

Sigh...

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...ost&p=103707681

The claim can be found in Al-Quran. What is the "is true" are you referring here?

If u go through all the Malaysian debates with CP,  u can see the low standard of our thinking. Malaysian rational thinking skill is embarrassing. The government and environment the muslims are exposed is just not conducive for rational thinkers.
Rational thinking is not only about religion, but about every aspects of life and work  God save Malaysia.

https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...brace-c/2055868

My hope one day is changing religion is as easy as changing your favourite colour. What a waste of tax money handling these unnecessary procedures of religion change. I hope one day there is no longer need of government involvement to change religion, just like there is no government involvement to change your favourite colour.

That may happen soon, people's view of the world is no longer as narrow minded and bigoted as in the past due to the easy availability of information and spread of science. Imagine say 500 years ago, how could you calmly refute sun sets in muddy spring, and send shivers to believers so much they have to twist their translation ...

I'm not sure about soon as in my life time. Religion is used for tribal reasons. To keep the tribe together so that it has power for the tribe leaders to do stuff smoothly.

Religion is tribal folks. Stop being tribal. Let's think human race, and if u can't think that far, think about Malaysia first. Stop being narrow minded about race and religion.

https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/202...brace-c/2055868

My hope one day is changing religion is as easy as changing your favourite colour. What a waste of tax money handling these unnecessary procedures of religion change. I hope one day there is no longer need of government involvement to change religion, just like there is no government involvement to change your favourite colour.