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post Apr 11 2022, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 11 2022, 02:10 PM)
Gaming phone also can categorize as high end gaming or low end gaming what... there's gaming laptop from 3k+ up to 5 figures.

Truth to be said, 855->865->888 really feel meh if not for the GPU upgrades. The CPU only run at 50% for most games anyway (except geshin and some others that I may not know). Heck, when you look at Dimensity 8100 doing almost same fps as 888 and 8Gen1 with its A78 cores, there's more to it than just raw specs. No matter what mode you run also will throttle. Dont compare with cars la, LOL...
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then if talk like this

poco f3 870 = gaming phone
xiaomi 10t 865 = gaming phone
xiaomi 11t mediatek 1200 = gaming phone
xiaomi 11t pro = gaming phone


biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif everything with snapdragon 855 , 865, 870 = gaming phone ..... clever ah you biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif go study the term of "GAMING PHONE" first lah bro.... doh.gif


Samsung S22plus = 8gen1 = gaming phone? Or a Business phone? biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif



i buy proton x50 1.5 turbo = sport car
i buy honda civic 1.5 turbo = sport car
i buy nissan almera 1.0 turbo = sport car

anything with turbo = sport car ... LOL , u really make me laugh out loud

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post Apr 11 2022, 02:43 PM

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My Iqoo games space win poco f3 9 road already lo bro biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif , black shark / rog / lenovo legion / redmagic is even more feature to play biggrin.gif

For ur information , real gaming phone have a MODE that won't throttle your performance , for iqoo it called as Monster Mode , ur phone will get very heat as performance is all out , advice to using with Cooling fan if u are on everything on ultra setting.... tongue.gif

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post Apr 11 2022, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(MyProLife @ Apr 11 2022, 02:59 PM)
so conclusion is there are many categories for phones suitable for what

business phone/all purpose: iphone, samsung s/note (these not build specially for gaming), great build, great camera, sufficient real world perf despite using high end chip, can heat up easily and will throttle because of cooling system is not priority
laptop PC equivalent is Ultrabook/thin and light

gaming phone: build specially for gaming with comprehensive software / features for gaming. Eg. Beefy cooling solution, game toolbox, trigger/pressure sensing touch, custom haptics, bypass charging. Camera is bare minimum
laptop PC equivalent is gaming notebook

POCO F3 does not have these features above

flagship killer: retain high performance but many corner cuts in build quality, camera, cooling etc
laptop PC equivalent is mid range laptop with H processor and entry level GPU (xx50 grade or MX grade)

POCO F3 falls into THIS category
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yeah , have to understand the term of gaming phone , not ah pig ah dog also called as gaming phone bah , just poco f3 spec have those gaming phone spec (but doesnt give u Full potential , chinese call 满血 / 残血) and u can run any games smooth but doesnt mean it's a gaming phone biggrin.gif
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post Apr 11 2022, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(Zhik @ Apr 11 2022, 03:25 PM)
Iqoo device?
Does it get over heat over 1-2 game on max setting?
After update to miui13, poco f3 get over heat, and poorer performance.
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Not only ur Poco f3 bro , even my xiaomi 10T after update also get HEAT UP , in facebook group they advice turn off the "Games Turbo" , mean doesnt trigger it on and turn off at Setting


But what i found after TURNED off the Games Turbo , when i playing games , the touch sensitivity become less sensitive , summore if playing Wang Zhe Rong Yao the Frame will drop badly in group fight , so ended up i need to turn the Games turbo on , then Change to "Performance" Mode only can stable at 60hz with sensitive touch , but very Heat up ...last time also won't heat up doh.gif




For iqoo i'm owning the Iqoo Neo5s , it can be bought from china ROM only , doesnt available for global unit , but it have come with GMS that can install play store , it launching end of year December of 2021 , seriously this is the COOLEST snapdragon 888 in market , if u really love to play Wang Zhe Rong Yao then u won't go wrong with this device because it can open up to 120hz , and it fully optimize for this games biggrin.gif , Totally no lagging team fight and stay cold


Okey the term of COLD i mention is playing in aircond room with temperature of 20-25 , if talk about MAX Setting while at temperature room without aircond 26-29 , any phone will get hot easily ....so in my game play , i will normally go with this setting

In Room with aircond 20-25 = 120hz / max setting (sometime open medium setting with 120hz to save battery, max setting drink juice like hell biggrin.gif )
In room without aircond = 90hz / medium setting (can go max setting but will feel the heat)
At outside if using Data = 60hz / medium setting

so i will control the setting with condition , sometime not necessary to always go with full setting in Hard Condition because ur phone will feel hot and u will play until very uncomfortable ....

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post Apr 11 2022, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 11 2022, 06:04 PM)
U say ah...
I also got IQOO Neo3 5G... monster mode? Kekeke... throttle jugak. If play for 1hr still ok, but sometimes I play 3-4hours. Even charging also play. They will push the boundaries but when it gets too hot, it will throttle.
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Sorry ya , my iqooneo5s doesnt throttle ya , smooth2 120hz , if i close the monster mode , after 5 min 120hz will lock at 90hz , if ur phone reach their limit overheat let say 50++ temp, for sure it will drop frame and let the phone cooling back...but for like poco f3 phone it throttle even faster when it detect not even over 45 temp

Ur neo3 5g already outdated, need to get more new phone for new update , and i also didnt admit iqoo is a gaming phone, but it at least better than poco f3 games center 9 road...

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 11 2022, 06:12 PM)
Make sure you can tahan the Vivo like UI then only buy.

There are some annoying things about the OS. I will just name a few.

1. Even after setting up chrome as default browser, whenever you click links on sms, still load default vivo browser.

2. No widewine L1 (if you are netflix kaki)

3. No VoLTE

4. WhatsApp notifications never arrive until you open WhatsApp. Even after set dont kill, still kill WhatsApp in background

5. Youtube randomly wont load for whatever reason. Need to restart or manual set time instead of  auto.
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The latest origin os ocean is doing well 😎😎

Like i say u already outdated, my neo5s have volte , youtube is doing well.... Whatsapp notification can be settle , just let it apps battery permission to be keep ON and autostat the apps , and then lock whatsapp in the background....

Seriously bro origin os ocean have been improve alot...the whatsapp delay notification not only happen to vivo , it happen all over china ROM , no matter k50 , k40 , realme , iqoo also have this kind of delay notification

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 11 2022, 08:19 PM)
Oh, you can get volte? Hmm... the setting got button to activate volte but after activate also still 2G calls. Even install Google Carrier Service also cannot get.

Whatsapp I tried many times liao still cannot. I also lazy want to reset phone since I had crypto related things installed.

The latest OS is okay geh... but the launcher... I just don't like it. I also cant use the new UI if I want to use Nova launcher. Kinda like the ios style control panel.

Ur phone got support all LTE bands? This is also another negative since mine had band7 disabled by default.
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Yeah , maybe u need to have a look at the new iqoo origin os ocean , so far now i able to get volte and our gang at iqoo fb also get volte , which is show HD in the top...i do research alot before i really get into china phone , last time i also got think to get k40 rather than poco f3 global, because only china k40 can open 90hz on wang zhe rong yao , poco f3 , xiaomi 10t until today stil on 60hz, really sad

Even the poco f4 f5 coming global also not able to support high refresh rate
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post Apr 12 2022, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(Zhik @ Apr 12 2022, 12:12 AM)
lol, i turn off the game turbo, and the performance back to previous experience right before the miui update.
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now really phobia with update , sometime use the phone nicely , suddenly a update ruins your mood....last time play games SD870 SD865 also wont heat up , and won't drop performance , sometime don't understand what the "meaning" of update....make thing worth doh.gif
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post Apr 12 2022, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(Zhik @ Apr 12 2022, 10:27 AM)
They are all doing the same thing like what apple did before, throttling ur device to prolong the lifespan of the devices.
But, most china phone i think, will try their best for you to change the device every year.
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u got ur point , when first year guna nicely , then 2nd year suddenly an update then ruins everything ....when u feel ur phone is slow , throttle , then u will think of changing other phone zzzzz

there is a way in poco f3 malaysia facebook group downgrade back to 12.0.....and the heat is gone even with games turbo on.... doh.gif



Some even mention that , when get the phone genshin impact can run at least 40-50 FPS ....after a year didn't install it and re-play back genshin impact , the FPS cant even reach 40 , stuck at 35++ only confused.gif confused.gif confused.gif

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QUOTE(mydragoon @ Apr 12 2022, 11:29 AM)
got the link...? coz i wanna downgrade if can.

accidentally kena tricked into updating.
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QUOTE(msacras @ Apr 12 2022, 09:36 PM)
One thing is because genshin itself getting heavier and heavier.

My 12mini used to breeze through lowest graphic setting with no possibilities of throtling, but the latest few patches (and combining with iOS updates) screw that up.
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Look like not only happen on android , it happen to ios too... mobile industry is pecah head with this genshin impact to let it run smooth 60 with low heat 🤣😂
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QUOTE(soulz69 @ Apr 13 2022, 02:47 PM)
eager to update but still waiting if got any bug for it. laugh.gif
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download first , update later biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Skeuomorphic @ Apr 27 2022, 08:42 AM)
Dont go for F4 GT as sd8gen1 still has the same heating issues as sd888. TechTablets uploaded a review of the phone and during the gaming test, genshin impact crashed after only 38 minutes of playtime due to overheating lol. You can watch the review here: https://youtu.be/Q85iqOeb8lA

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First of all you have to understand , Poco F4 GT have balanced and performance mode , if u going for performance mode , the phone won't drop frame and give u full power hence the phone will be overheat , if u look at bojio , it can't even run 3D mark as it didn't cut off the performance and cause overheat


if u take SD870 no matter poco f3 , realme gt neo2 , xiaomi 10T/Pro sd865 , 60fps graphic max for genshin impact, no overheat meh? also very hot ah , but to overcome this they have to drop the frame badly until 25-35fps....



In my opinion la , if u really a genshin impact lover , and wish to run the games at max setting with 60fps , either playing in Aircond room 20-25 with WIFI , or attach with a cooling fan.... even iphone13pro heating loh if u run at room temperature without aircond 28-30 ....because currently don't have a phone that can using Data 4G/5G with temp room 25-30 runing max 60fps within 10 minutes , not even ONE in this world.....Unless redmagic 7pro , Lenovo which have a Build in internal cooling fan .....

sometime dont judge by just a single video .....



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QUOTE(Optizorb @ Apr 27 2022, 09:47 PM)
F3 wont crash or overheat because they throttle FPS. If no heat = wont throttle

F4 GT straight crash because of overheat, cpu dont know throttle yet. If no heat = no crash.

so all in all in the end you are saying whatever phone whether F3 or F4 gt also will have heat issue and the only way to maintain stable constant 60fps for long gaming sessions is to play in front of a fan blowing direct you or better yet get a phone cooler ma..

so you can see why people holding back on F4 GT given its price is double of what you can get now which is F3. Because F3 also can get 60fps in a cool environment, so why pay double to do same thing..

Also many review came out and all not that favourable towards it as well.. When F3 came out also it had bugs and stuff but because F3 price was appropriate, so many could let it go given the pricing.. But F4 GT is releasing into the 2.5k mark locally BUT it is 600 EURO or 600+ USD yeah mind you.. So of course it will get scrutinized even more because it is encroaching into premium flagship territory...

Early days and needs software updates, yes i know..

Anyway curious who plan to buy it tonight at 12am release?
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Seriously bro , u stil doesnt understand the term of gaming phone vs f3 (a normal budget phone)

Gaming phone normally will give u full peformance, just like the blackshark4 blackshark5 called "burn chicken mode" , in this mode its already recommend that u have to use with cooling fan alone because in this mode the phone will give u full performance and wont limit the phone by dropping the frame fate to balance out

I believe if u using poco f4 gt in BALANCED mode in games turbo , the phone will definitely wont have overheat issues because AI will caculate that CPU is reaching certain of their limit heat and starting to dropping frame rate to over come the OVERHEATING problem

From the video i can see he playing genshin impact so smooth without dropping frame, i believe he is setting in performance mode...max 60fps and without a cooling fan , and we dont know is he using wifi? 4g/5g? Room temperature? Those all play a roll

I mean if u choose to driving a sport car u must at least have some knowledge how to maintenance the car because it give u very good performance unlike those normal engine car which will limit your RPM and topspeed,..and for sure peformance car needed special care


Either factory give you
- Limit your frame rate by balancing the heating
- Limit and drop your resolution by balancing the heating
- Unlimited performance but in this case will causes heating and u need in better room temperature condition or attach with cooling fan


Poco f4 gt wont be outsales like the poco f3 , because gt version normally just focusing in small group of real gamer user , look at china k50 300k sales within hour vs realme gt neo3 5k sales within hour (which focus on gaming user) and i dont think poco f3 user necessary to upgrade to f4 GT unless u really like the trigger , fast charge , and quad speaker , but i do believe poco f3 user like me is given more High expectation toward to the coming f4 or the f4 pro because the f4/pro will be more daily usage phone compare to the GT version

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QUOTE(syukaro @ Apr 28 2022, 10:22 AM)
no hype for f4 gt? no thread at all, and being sd 8 gen 1 for rm1999 i thought it would sold like hot cakes, but now still got so much stocks.
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yeah , it sell like a hot cake , 4 min sold out in shopee biggrin.gif , actually it more active user over in facebook "poco f3 malaysia" group rather than LYN already....


seriously for the price Rm1999 for a entry level gaming phone is really a great deal....the 8gen1 , 120watt , quad speaker , trigger L1 L2 is worth for the price already...but if not so serious into gaming i think people stil waiting for the regular poco f4/pro series....


Look at bojio youtuber review ,and u guys make the decision , because i found that what he pointed out make sense , if talk overall performance , the k50 gaming edition a.k.a Poco F4 GT actually more worth because u really get more extra advantages over the regular k50/pro , the k50/pro given u 2k screen YES , but with 8bit only , without 1920 PWM , so if u always use phone in low light condition , the F4 GT OLED will work better ....but the choice stil on your guys hand la biggrin.gif u can't go wrong either one , it just like u buying a FULL SPEC camry(F4 GT screen) ? Or buying an Entry Level of BMW (F4 2k screen) kosong spec smile.gif




my personal opinion la , i not really love to see Ang Mo reviewer about gaming phone anymore , look more china / malaysia youtuber to try out the phone, the way they test out the phone make more sense...at least they know what they do .... even Ang mo also scared of 120watt / 150 watt fast charge that they think will burn out the phone , LOL , that why Apple until today...only support 25watt...haizzz Ang Mo stil Ang Mo....They only suitable to do ...unboxing , battery life testing and camera/video reviewer...

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QUOTE(rotloi @ Apr 28 2022, 01:39 PM)
Realme neo 3 better or this one??
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realme gt neo3 i think can't be compare , because poco F4 GT is another level , realme gt neo3 only using mediatek 8100 , 8gen1 is more comparable to mediatek 9000 , so quite unfair , and gt neo3 price so cheap only in china around rm1.6k only....but actually if user doesnt play genshin impact in max setting , any SD870 , 888 , MTK8100 also work very fine , only u really need push the limit of genshin impact then have to consider the 8gen1

if ur pocket have extra money , i think poco f4 gt really a worth buy phone ....Rm1999 for 12+128 and RM2199 for 12+256....no body can beat POCO/Redmi in this price point , China always say , Only k50 can beat the K40 , and Only the futere K60 can beat the current K50 , totally no competition in this price point biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(briantwj @ Apr 28 2022, 01:57 PM)
I'm waiting for the camera review, if it's good, I'll add this into my consideration.
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not very detail in picture review but ....look not bad for a gaming phone , as 8gen1 AI calculation for picture stil very strong compare to other brand SoC

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QUOTE(futra @ Apr 28 2022, 03:48 PM)
Same sensor as F2 Pro, right? Should be slightly better due to better chipset?  hmm.gif
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yup , they change new camera sensor for poco f4 GT , basically should be improve la haha , but gaming phone maybe camera not so important...but from reviewer show sample of the photo it actually very very acceptable le...more than a gaming phone quality already biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(futra @ Apr 28 2022, 09:07 PM)
I'm still contemplating between this F4 GT and Moto Edge 30 Pro, mainly reason is the USB 3.1 connectivity via direct tv output from phone.. but.. there's always google cast and the likes of those in today's smart tv. Also, its 50mp + 50mp + 60mp selfie camera setup.. but with the price tag of rm2.5k vs f4 gt's early bird rm2k
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If u not on gaming side , better go for moto since it have better camera setup , poco f4 gt suit for a person that who wan to try the trigger out but dont want to spend blackshark , rog , redmagic price....can say it target to New User that wanna try gaming phone feature....once they found it suitable for them , slowly will upgrade to bs , redmagic , renovo , rog

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