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post Apr 8 2021, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(gxthelord @ Apr 8 2021, 01:16 PM)
I'm not too concern about the dimming issue as even on my lcd screen on Redmi Note 9S I only run it at max 50% usually just 20-30% good enough for me.
I'm more concern is the pop up message for Overheating and force close Mobile Data, Wifi Hotspot, GPS and Camera.
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i think most of the time is they max the brightness and play the games that causes the overheat msg come out , let try first at your own after get ur phone only we can judge it right biggrin.gif
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post Apr 8 2021, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Apr 8 2021, 01:17 PM)
AMOLED is build by alot of LED into the screen , hence it's more contrast and look great on the phone , but when come to endurance , AMOLED is more easy to get burn in if open brightness at max level
For example , when u driving at highway or pass from some under bridge , u will see those Advertisement with LED right? For few month u will see it's great , but after this u will start notice some of the LED panel isn't complete , sini no light situ no light , it's because the LED actually burn off , that why u will see the LED panel will have some place didn't light up
For the phone nowaday Samsung E4 Amoled , they make the pixel very big which mean A Square inside have another 4 Square with full of LED  , that the reason why LED will look great , very contrast because it will display more pixel detail than IPS panel , actually our phone will get Burn IN time to time , just we sometime can't detect with our Own Eyes even your phone having 10-20 tiny LED burning off

on the other hand IPS is like backlight projector , i won't cause burn IN , if IPS rosak then it direct rosak , habis cerita , that the reason why Projector , IPS panel tend to more BIG and Eat space when it come to Mobile , most of the IPS panel phone will more thick and big size while Amoled is just like a piece of paper with full of LED
So from alot of youtuber video , they tend to open MAX brightness to play those high end games , end up the screen of LED heat up + processor heat up at the same time and causes the phone given u the warning , who on earth will open max brightness for A E4 Samsung Amoled that have 1300 NIT ?? seriously , 30-50% is more more more than enough

So it actually not a problem , it's just like ur home FUSE that when kena lightniing and ur electric box will JUMP , if no jump then ur house bye bye  biggrin.gif
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Yea normally we won't be switching max brightness max I go is 70% on my oneplus when gaming. But I am more afraid of that heat in some of the vids those phones can reach 70c. Too high temp will dmg phones. Only app I know can normally cause this is Waze which affected Lenovo Honor Oneplus to autoshutdown.

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Apr 8 2021, 01:19 PM)
i think most of the time is they max the brightness and play the games that causes the overheat msg come out , let try first at your own after get ur phone only we can judge it right  biggrin.gif
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ya agree its quite weird because its quite contradicting review on gsmarena.
For me I don't mind too much about the brightness since mostly indoor anyway but let's see ba

"The F3 never heated enough to trigger throttling, and it's not for the lack of trying. We saw the AnTuTu score drop about 3% to 5%, with a maximum of 8% after numerous runs, and the phone's shell was warm but not hot. And while we couldn't run 3D Mark's stability test, it seems the Poco F3 is doing just fine in this respect."

https://www.gsmarena.com/poco_f3-review-2248p4.php
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post Apr 8 2021, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(KopiChia @ Apr 8 2021, 01:16 PM)
Any powerbank using proprietary charge is expensive compare normal QC ones.

Huawei/Honor only Huawei powerbank can quick/fast charge.

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Oppo / Oneplus  uses VOOC charge

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Year I got some of those chargers since I use Lenovo Honor Oneplus before.
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i actually looking for wall adaptor can support 2 to 3 port + car charger that can support 33w

but i see alot of advertisment with 65W 40W but when charge xiaomi can't get mi turbo sad.gif
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QUOTE(KopiChia @ Apr 8 2021, 01:21 PM)
Yea normally we won't be switching max brightness max I go is 70% on my oneplus when gaming. But I am more afraid of that heat in some of the vids those phones can reach 70c. Too high temp will dmg phones. Only app I know can normally cause this is Waze which affected Lenovo Honor Oneplus to autowhutdown.
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The last time I've seen such high temperature is on my Snapdragon 820/821 series.. and that generation phone are really not nice too hold. At one point even seen it shot past 90c lol
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QUOTE(gxthelord @ Apr 8 2021, 01:22 PM)
The last time I've seen such high temperature is on my Snapdragon 820/821 series.. and that generation phone are really not nice too hold. At one point even seen it shot past 90c lol
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My phones reach autoshutdown actually burn my hand trying to hold them. I believe they can easily cook an egg sunny side up. 😅😂

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Apr 8 2021, 01:22 PM)
i actually looking for wall adaptor can support 2 to 3 port + car charger that can support 33w

but i see alot of advertisment with 65W 40W but when charge xiaomi can't get mi turbo  sad.gif
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We probably need wait xiaomi to release liao haha but the chance of that happening macam slim sad.gif
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post Apr 8 2021, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Apr 8 2021, 01:22 PM)
i actually looking for wall adaptor can support 2 to 3 port + car charger that can support 33w

but i see alot of advertisment with 65W 40W but when charge xiaomi can't get mi turbo  sad.gif
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You need to look for one's compatible to the phone you're buying. If it only QC/PD your safe using those majority of widely available chargers. Only Huawei oppo oneplus all needs their own speed tech. Google see if mi turbo chargers are now available or not if got see if lazada/Shopee got sell.
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QUOTE(gxthelord @ Apr 8 2021, 01:21 PM)
ya agree its quite weird because its quite contradicting review on gsmarena.
For me I don't mind too much about the brightness since mostly indoor anyway but let's see ba

"The F3 never heated enough to trigger throttling, and it's not for the lack of trying. We saw the AnTuTu score drop about 3% to 5%, with a maximum of 8% after numerous runs, and the phone's shell was warm but not hot. And while we couldn't run 3D Mark's stability test, it seems the Poco F3 is doing just fine in this respect."

https://www.gsmarena.com/poco_f3-review-2248p4.php
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most of the problem happen only on genshin impact max settings.

so i guess is the game that too much to handle causes this problem.
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QUOTE(KopiChia @ Apr 8 2021, 01:21 PM)
Yea normally we won't be switching max brightness max I go is 70% on my oneplus when gaming. But I am more afraid of that heat in some of the vids those phones can reach 70c. Too high temp will dmg phones. Only app I know can normally cause this is Waze which affected Lenovo Honor Oneplus to autoshutdown.
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unless u are at outdoor under sunlight , then u might be open 100% for temporary view ur phone , but for sure u wont be stay for such long time under sun as it's so hot !!! Right , so brightness max also maybe just for view some message only

my samsung Note10 open max brightness to take picture can easily get hot too , really real hot , so i think it's normal for every phone that with max brightness

but for me , i think it's great that Poco f3 itself will be dimming if detect something that will causes ur phone problem , but for normal usage i really never heard before about K40 / Poco F3 over heat problem , even alot youtuber saying that K40/Poco f3 with 870 controling the temperature very very great , on the other hand the Snapdragon 888 for sure is more heat than the 870 , so don worry for your phone , i don think u will ever use until overheat if u are not going to max the brightness....


QUOTE(gxthelord @ Apr 8 2021, 01:21 PM)
ya agree its quite weird because its quite contradicting review on gsmarena.
For me I don't mind too much about the brightness since mostly indoor anyway but let's see ba

"The F3 never heated enough to trigger throttling, and it's not for the lack of trying. We saw the AnTuTu score drop about 3% to 5%, with a maximum of 8% after numerous runs, and the phone's shell was warm but not hot. And while we couldn't run 3D Mark's stability test, it seems the Poco F3 is doing just fine in this respect."

https://www.gsmarena.com/poco_f3-review-2248p4.php
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yeah , i seriously never heard that under normal usage poco f3 will be overheat , hmm.....870 is really such great processor that can balance both performance and heating vs the 888
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QUOTE(gxthelord @ Apr 8 2021, 01:24 PM)
We probably need wait xiaomi to release liao haha but the chance of that happening macam slim sad.gif
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even ugreen or other brand can't support mi turbo charge eh? sad.gif
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Doesn't xiaomi sells 65w chargers? They can't be used?
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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Apr 8 2021, 01:22 PM)
i actually looking for wall adaptor can support 2 to 3 port + car charger that can support 33w

but i see alot of advertisment with 65W 40W but when charge xiaomi can't get mi turbo  sad.gif
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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Apr 8 2021, 01:28 PM)
unless u are at outdoor under sunlight , then u might be open 100% for temporary view ur phone , but for sure u wont be stay for such long time under sun as it's so hot !!! Right , so brightness max also maybe just for view some message only

my samsung Note10 open max brightness to take picture can easily get hot too , really real hot , so i think it's normal for every phone that with max brightness

but for me , i think it's great that Poco f3 itself will be dimming if detect something that will causes ur phone problem , but for normal usage i really never heard before about K40 / Poco F3 over heat problem , even alot youtuber saying that K40/Poco f3 with 870 controling the temperature very very great , on the other hand the Snapdragon 888 for sure is more heat than the 870 , so don worry for your phone , i don  think u will ever use until overheat if u are not going to max the brightness....
yeah , i seriously never heard that under normal usage poco f3 will be overheat , hmm.....870 is really such great processor that can balance both performance and heating vs the 888
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yup. i dont do gaming with highest max graphic setting. with low to average settings and with proper fan ventilation or cooling i think it will not triggering the dimming. same like my iphone X last time.
i dont think it will trigger the dimming during casual usage.

let see how.

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QUOTE(KopiChia @ Apr 8 2021, 01:33 PM)
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we discuss about car charger here.
seems like no car charger support Mi turbocharge 33W.
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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Apr 8 2021, 01:17 PM)
AMOLED is build by alot of LED into the screen , hence it's more contrast and look great on the phone , but when come to endurance , AMOLED is more easy to get burn in if open brightness at max level
For example , when u driving at highway or pass from some under bridge , u will see those Advertisement with LED right? For few month u will see it's great , but after this u will start notice some of the LED panel isn't complete , sini no light situ no light , it's because the LED actually burn off , that why u will see the LED panel will have some place didn't light up
For the phone nowaday Samsung E4 Amoled , they make the pixel very big which mean A Square inside have another 4 Square with full of LED  , that the reason why LED will look great , very contrast because it will display more pixel detail than IPS panel , actually Amoled display will get Burn IN time to time , just we sometime can't detect with our Own Eyes even your phone having 10-20 tiny LED burning off

on the other hand IPS is like backlight projector , i won't cause burn IN , if IPS rosak then it direct rosak , habis cerita , that the reason why Projector , IPS panel tend to more BIG and Eat space when it come to Mobile , most of the IPS panel phone will more thick and big size while Amoled is just like a piece of paper with full of LED
So from alot of youtuber video , they tend to open MAX brightness to play those high end games , end up the screen of LED heat up + processor heat up at the same time and causes the phone given u the warning , who on earth will open max brightness for A E4 Samsung Amoled that have 1300 NIT ?? seriously , 30-50% is more more more than enough

So it actually not a problem , it's just like ur home FUSE that when kena lightniing and ur electric box will JUMP , if no jump then ur house bye bye  biggrin.gif
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This max brightness explanation helps to me order this phone as I thought this will be a very annoying problem if the screen keeps on dimming
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so is there a quick charge 33w powerbank that supports xiaomi phones?
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QUOTE(syukaro @ Apr 8 2021, 01:51 PM)
so is there a quick charge 33w powerbank that supports xiaomi phones?
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dont think so

best bet is to use QC/PD 18W.

dunno if higher 27W PD charge supported or not.

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Apr 8 2021, 12:04 PM)
that mean there is no 33w car charger able to charge mi turbo speed?  sad.gif
how about this charger https://s.lazada.com.my/s.Xmqut , can it give mi turbo charge 33w? as it state the charger is 65W
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i cannot confirm this. may need to search through xiaomi see if they make one for car charger

QUOTE(KopiChia @ Apr 8 2021, 12:05 PM)
So the 33w is their own not pd or qc? I got one of these bought last time to charge a laptop so will it 33w or 18w hmm

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from what i read, the 33w is proprietary to xiaomi. laptop normally uses PD charging protocol, so it is different to phone charger. i guess it will only be able to charge at 18w on your phone. can verify using the usb meter thing.

QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Apr 8 2021, 12:36 PM)
Actually i very blur with these day quick charge , if u buy huawei 40w or realme oppo vivo 40w quick charge, u only able to charge their own brand phone with super quick charge only , if charge on xiaomi become normal charge

Really blur , can someone explain about this?
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each manufacturer making their own protocol for charging. if you own a realme or oppo devices that uses vooc tech, you can see the usb A having 5 pin compared to normal usb which is 4 pin.
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QUOTE(KopiChia @ Apr 8 2021, 01:33 PM)
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this is single port or with several port? might to share the link ?

QUOTE(ehkay @ Apr 8 2021, 01:48 PM)
This max brightness explanation helps to me order this phone as I thought this will be a very annoying problem if the screen keeps on dimming
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don worry bro , u never go wrong with the Poco F3 seriously , we must understand first why it dimming rather than blame on xiaomi phone why dimming , those youtuber really don have any sense about phone keh? Since they are Tech Guys but this kind of thing pun dunno hmm.gif doh.gif

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