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greyshadow
post Apr 6 2018, 08:22 AM

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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Apr 2 2018, 02:11 PM)
8 yrs Livina

CEL came back to haunt me again

3 years back CEL was on intermittently when starting the car, engine is running, no response whatsoever from throttling, send in TCEAS, mechanic told me it's throttle body, serviced it, and the problem went away.

This year, few months back, felt the car underpowered, send in to TCEAS again, change spark plug & air filter, serviced the throttle body, power is back, much better.

But since 2 weeks ago, felt the engine have minor stuttering when idle, normal drive no issue, last week CEL was on when starting engine, no response from throttling again, have to try on/off multiple times until CEL doesn't lit up.

Back to TCEAS again the next day, diagnostic failed to find anything, just help me reset the error code.  Mechanic also claim some connectors are loose and worn out, help me tightening them, and released the car doh.gif

and yet today, the same shit happened again doh.gif

Anyone of you encountered similar problems? hmm.gif
PS: Most of you will be questioning why the hell I use TCEAS for my old car, bcos my spouse works there, and have staff discount, and can screw them kau-kau if they screw up the service tongue.gif
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QUOTE(KB1 @ Apr 5 2018, 04:39 PM)
I have the problem on under power too...
but after few months...it will back to normal

it comes n go, comes n go...

I did asked tces, but they said my car is ok.. rclxub.gif
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Found the culprit, got Throttle Valve error code
could be wiring problem, or worst, Throttle Body doh.gif
I suspect the latter

Throttle Body is damn expensive! RM4.5K!!! doh.gif cry.gif

will be hunting for recon/2nd hand parts, there's no oem version for this also cry.gif
It's super rare! doh.gif

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post Apr 6 2018, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Apr 6 2018, 08:22 AM)
Found the culprit, got Throttle Valve error code
could be wiring problem, or worst, Throttle Body doh.gif
I suspect the latter

Throttle Body is damn expensive! RM4.5K!!! doh.gif cry.gif

will be hunting for recon/2nd hand parts, there's no oem version for this also cry.gif
It's super rare! doh.gif
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Hope not the TB, wish you good luck.
Do keep us update.
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post Apr 7 2018, 03:17 AM

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try to do the top half overhaul.
clean up all that carbon sludge built over 8 years.
greyshadow
post Apr 9 2018, 08:53 AM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Apr 7 2018, 03:17 AM)
try to do the top half overhaul.
clean up all that carbon sludge built over 8 years.
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what's the cost of overhaul? hmm.gif
I thought overhaul is usually recommended for engine > 10 years?

went to a few workshops over the weekend, mostly only know how to service the other 2 big Jap brand, Nissan is very rare doh.gif
KB1
post Apr 9 2018, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Apr 9 2018, 08:53 AM)
what's the cost of overhaul? hmm.gif
I thought overhaul is usually recommended for engine > 10 years?

went to a few workshops over the weekend, mostly only know how to service the other 2 big Jap brand, Nissan is very rare doh.gif
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try to ask the livina club at fb..

there's a lot of member there, they might able to help
greyshadow
post Apr 9 2018, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(KB1 @ Apr 9 2018, 10:31 AM)
try to ask the livina club at fb..

there's a lot of member there, they might able to help
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alright, will try that, thanks mate
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post Apr 11 2018, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Apr 9 2018, 08:53 AM)
what's the cost of overhaul? hmm.gif
I thought overhaul is usually recommended for engine > 10 years?

went to a few workshops over the weekend, mostly only know how to service the other 2 big Jap brand, Nissan is very rare doh.gif
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top half not full overhaul.
you need contacts for mechs that can do it?
greyshadow
post Apr 12 2018, 08:18 AM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Apr 11 2018, 11:46 PM)
top half not full overhaul.
you need contacts for mechs that can do it?
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i see, but how much I should budget for that
you know any mechs in Kuching? as in Kuching, Sarawak, not Jln Kuching tongue.gif

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post Apr 12 2018, 09:19 AM

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kuching hard to service Nissan... only a few dare to touch nissan lol...
greyshadow
post Apr 12 2018, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(mockv1per @ Apr 12 2018, 09:19 AM)
kuching hard to service Nissan... only a few dare to touch nissan lol...
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tell me about it sweat.gif

last week went to few workshops all shake head

finding the throttle body part at chop shops also difficult

seriously will not consider Nissan for my next car

any recommendation for any workshop you know in Kuching that can service my car? hmm.gif
pls PM me the details, thanks in advance notworthy.gif
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post Apr 12 2018, 09:48 AM

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You can try Pending Service Centre next to Rajah Cafe.

My culprit last time was air filter.. TCEAS suspect TB which has nothing to do with it.
greyshadow
post Apr 12 2018, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(mockv1per @ Apr 12 2018, 09:48 AM)
You can try Pending Service Centre next to Rajah Cafe.

My culprit last time was air filter.. TCEAS suspect TB which has nothing to do with it.
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Thanks! will go there to check

TCEAS is in my blacklist already, very unpleasant experience the last time I was there

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post Apr 13 2018, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Apr 12 2018, 08:18 AM)
i see, but how much I should budget for that
you know any mechs in Kuching? as in Kuching, Sarawak, not Jln Kuching tongue.gif
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Kuching? can't help sweat.gif
Last time I did a top half overhaul for my wira cost me rm800

QUOTE(mockv1per @ Apr 12 2018, 09:19 AM)
kuching hard to service Nissan... only a few dare to touch nissan lol...
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not too sure about EM but it's pretty normal here in KL.
you talk as if it's scary like an Opel or Skoda laugh.gif
greyshadow
post Apr 16 2018, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Apr 13 2018, 10:46 PM)
Kuching? can't help  sweat.gif
Last time I did a top half overhaul for my wira cost me rm800
not too sure about EM but it's pretty normal here in KL.
you talk as if it's scary like an Opel or Skoda  laugh.gif
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we still have lots of uncle workshop here, mostly from past gen, that doesn't know how to use the OBD scanner/reader for troubleshooting
once they heard it's intermittent CEL problem, all shake head say can't help much, either the person that know how to handle OBD scanner is not there, or they don't have one sweat.gif
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post Apr 23 2018, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Apr 16 2018, 08:30 AM)
we still have lots of uncle workshop here, mostly from past gen, that doesn't know how to use the OBD scanner/reader for troubleshooting
once they heard it's intermittent CEL problem, all shake head say can't help much, either the person that know how to handle OBD scanner is not there, or they don't have one sweat.gif
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hopefully someone has a better idea for you over there coz i can't think of anything else
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post May 14 2018, 01:39 AM

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whats the headlamp bulb type?
greyshadow
post May 14 2018, 02:42 PM

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Update on my livina issue:

3 weeks ago bought a cheap carburetor cleaner from a discount store @RM5.99

sprayed almost the whole can into the air intake while asking my sis to rev the engine
the liquid that sprayed out from the exhaust... fuiyoh... and the smell... yuck!

and after that....

the problem are less persistent now

used to be CEL light on 8, 9 times in a week, and have to start more than 20, 30 times only successful

now, once or twice in a week, even when the CEL light is on, second or 3rd attempt is successful

seems it's just dirty sensors, will go buy a better cleaner and try again

pray hard i can save 4k+ to replace the TB, or wifey stop pester me to change new car

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post May 14 2018, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(greyshadow @ May 14 2018, 02:42 PM)
Update on my livina issue:

3 weeks ago bought a cheap carburetor cleaner from a discount store @RM5.99

sprayed almost the whole can into the air intake while asking my sis to rev the engine
the liquid that sprayed out from the exhaust... fuiyoh... and the smell... yuck!

and after that....

the problem are less persistent now

used to be CEL light on 8, 9 times in a week, and have to start more than 20, 30 times only successful

now, once or twice in a week, even when the CEL light is on, second or 3rd attempt is successful

seems it's just dirty sensors, will go buy a better cleaner and try again

pray hard i can save 4k+ to replace the TB, or wifey stop pester me to change new car
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Seem good sign, good luck to you
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post May 14 2018, 04:27 PM

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My 8yrs 1.8GL having leakage from engine, visually found black oil surrounding upper part of engine, suspect may be the gasket seal, this weekend need go workshop check & repair, hopefully not major issue.

Anyone ever experience oil leak from engine?
Mind to share your experience, part replaced/repaired & cost of repair?

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post May 26 2018, 12:17 PM

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earlier i complained of power loss or hesitation when i press the pedal for pickup.
at first thought was gearbox.
in the end it was the spark plugs.
changed them all and problem solved.
luckily not coils.

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