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 I've just been vaccinated. AMA...

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SUSslimey
post Mar 20 2021, 12:49 AM


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QUOTE(Tham @ Mar 20 2021, 12:47 AM)
It does not need to alter the DNA
directly.

You are instructing your cells to
produce a protein foreign to your
body.

Explained here.

https://youtu.be/_fqDWQsegT4
Petition by French doctors, lawyers and citizens.
https://www.nakim.org/israel-forums/downloa...%A7%D7%99%D7%9D
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yes. i know that.

but not a gene therapy
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post Mar 20 2021, 12:52 AM

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Wow.. this is getting very technical. Glad to see more people are getting interested in the vax. I hope you guys will take it regardless of which one it is...
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post Mar 20 2021, 12:54 AM


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QUOTE(Captain89 @ Mar 20 2021, 12:09 AM)
But stated there weakened virus. How to induce immunity with killed virus? All types of vaccines are supposed to be inactived/ weakened state cannot killed.

If killed then why they want to regulate temperature? Since it’s a killed virus temperature isn’t a factor anymore
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virus is not something that is "alive" .

it is rendered "unable to infect" before it becomes vaccine.

any foreign "object" that enters the body would induce immune reaction. it does not have to be alive or even the whole unit( there are vaccines that contain only a part of bacteria or virus or just the toxin itself)

temperature is more toward prevent denature of the protein spike on the virus
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post Mar 20 2021, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE(Captain89 @ Mar 19 2021, 04:09 PM)
But stated there weakened virus. How to induce immunity with killed virus? All types of vaccines are supposed to be inactived/ weakened state cannot killed.

If killed then why they want to regulate temperature? Since it’s a killed virus temperature isn’t a factor anymore
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Inactivated means dead. They
kill the viruses with beta propionolactone, as in Coronavac.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inactivated_vaccine


https://www.google.co.id/amp/s/www.news-med...ed-Vaccine.aspx



" The COVID-19 vaccines that Sinovac, Sinopharm, and Bharat Biotech have developed are inactivated vaccines. "

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/c...d-vaccines-work
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thres only two side effect
one is RIP
one is nothing happen
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post Mar 20 2021, 01:32 AM

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QUOTE(slimey @ Mar 20 2021, 12:54 AM)
virus is not something that is "alive" .

it is rendered "unable to infect" before it becomes vaccine.

any foreign "object" that enters the body would induce immune reaction. it does not have to be alive or even the whole unit( there are vaccines that contain only a part of bacteria or virus or just the toxin itself)

temperature is more toward prevent denature of the protein spike on the virus
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Virus need to infect in order to achieve effective immunity, just that they weakened it to prevent severe symptoms to humans. Unlike virus from environment inhaled airborne droplets into respiratory tract, those are active and could be fatal.

If you say ‘unable to infect’ means immune system will recognise it as ‘foreign substances’ only
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post Mar 20 2021, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(Tham @ Mar 20 2021, 01:05 AM)
Inactivated means dead. They
kill the viruses with beta propionolactone, as in Coronavac.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inactivated_vaccine
https://www.google.co.id/amp/s/www.news-med...ed-Vaccine.aspx
" The COVID-19 vaccines that Sinovac, Sinopharm, and Bharat Biotech have developed are inactivated vaccines. "

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/c...d-vaccines-work
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Inactivated for you means dead... inactivated for me means half dead but can be reactivated once introduce into the body. Currently they trying on Ritonavir, remdesiver, Azithromycin that’s what I know for now. Just reduce side effects
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QUOTE(Captain89 @ Mar 20 2021, 01:32 AM)
Virus need to infect in order to achieve effective immunity, just that they weakened it to prevent severe symptoms to humans. Unlike virus from environment inhaled airborne droplets into respiratory tract, those are active and could be fatal.

If you say ‘unable to infect’ means immune system will recognise it as ‘foreign substances’ only
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no need.

it just have to be there and induce an immune response
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post Mar 20 2021, 02:02 AM

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QUOTE(slimey @ Mar 20 2021, 01:55 AM)
no need.

it just have to be there and induce an immune response
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?? How??? Just to be there you mean? Let’s take during pregnancy, fetus ‘is there’ so they will induce immune cells to attack fetus also. Simply attack, placenta don’t play a role here

They need to infect first, just like we say hi when visiting other people house
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QUOTE(Captain89 @ Mar 20 2021, 02:02 AM)
?? How??? Just to be there you mean? Let’s take during pregnancy, fetus ‘is there’ so they will induce immune cells to attack fetus also. Simply attack, placenta don’t play a role here

They need to infect first, just like we say hi when visiting other people house
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sigh............it will take to long to explain obstetrics and immunology to you.

i suggest you google on your own.
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post Mar 21 2021, 05:13 AM

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QUOTE(Captain89 @ Mar 19 2021, 06:02 PM)
?? How??? Just to be there you mean? Let’s take during pregnancy, fetus ‘is there’ so they will induce immune cells to attack fetus also. Simply attack, placenta don’t play a role here

They need to infect first, just like we say hi when visiting other people house




The virus is totally dead. It is
just floating around in your
system.

Your neutrophils, macrophages,
T-cells, NK cells, etc, are reacting
to the receptors still on the
virus - spike protein, main
protease, and other pieces of
RNA/DNA code they think is
foreign.
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