13900k intel got greedy.

i redid the v/f ac on llc3
5.3ghz cache 50 max temp was 77, power 198w
on prime 95 avx 2 small fft

13th gen main benefit is the high cache

Can ask ur recommendations for best undervolt settings of 12700F at full PL2 state?

This post has been edited by babylon52281: Oct 30 2022, 11:30 AM

find the stock LLC which is 1.1mohm
fix dc to that reduce AC until you cant pass CB R15
retest CB r23 use a avx/avx 2offset until u find a good temp frequency
set a max package load temp
then set a PL1/PL2 retest everything

then set a octb profile

done

This what i understand from them. Your Computer does not need 100% cpu power all the time .Now you OC for 110%
The transition from power 40% to 100% is smooth without OC. IF you OC the transition power to 110% will cause system unstable (no consistency)
That will cause system to crash or other miscalculation.

Transition power is important for system stability. Heat from OC will cause instability since we game 4-6hrs

Stress test cpu power is always 100% it does not show stability from 30% to 100%

This post has been edited by OlgaC4: Oct 30 2022, 05:26 PM

Nvidia SLI is the worse system stability.
Sometime fast sometime slow.
I sell my SLI GPU after 7 days testing on this stupid system.
2 engines run 1 car. Bodoh

This post has been edited by OlgaC4: Oct 30 2022, 05:23 PM

Thanks dude! Ur advice is so much better than all those Utuber reviews that simply just ram power into the CPU to get their benchmark results.

My understanding is that CPUs have evolved to such a state that OCing is no longer a necessity anymore. Unlike the past, the core count of a recent series i7, i9 or later i5 reached to a number that is more than enough for all kinds of applications & games. Ditto with the speed, as even games are more GPU bound than CPU limited nowadays.

To me PL2 is at the peak performance/power defined. From PL2 state, you'll need to up power like 20% just to gain 10% more performance so for me OCing further than that is pointless unless benchmarking, epeen glory, or dont know what or why they did. Plus now with unlimited PL2, a regular 12700 running at full PL2 is nearly as fast as its K sku at stock full PL2. Just take care of cooling and thats it.

As a caveat, sure, OCing will net some performance gains but how much of that is tangible to the user, as in can anyone easily tell the difference between 200FPS and 220FPS kinda situation. But that is more of a GPU OC scenario rather than CPU OC...

Latest batch would have arrived by then.

I see Dotatech on Lazada says still have 3 btw.

New release game sometimes are CPU bound because they are not optimized properly yet. Eventually after some times new update on the game will optimized the cpu.

Well said, the 13th gen non-K is going to look really interesting!

This post has been edited by edmund_yung: Nov 1 2022, 05:45 PM

Interesting... but dunno why their Shopee site is OOS. Somemore in chat they confirmed no stock

That is more of a game problem than a CPU issue. So far games are minimum 6 cores and do not scale much further past 8 cores. Few, like MS Flight Sim, do run better with more cores but performance isn't exponential so a threadripper won't exactly run significantly faster than i9. Rather imho it will be certain specific applications and content creations that will push CPU development instead of games. As for now game focus only can do with i5 while a general purpose use will better go i7. For i9 imho its more of a HEDT

[quote=edmund_yung,Nov 1 2022, 05:44 PM]
Well said, the 13th gen non-K is going to look really interesting!

[/quote
Indeed, if it maintains the 65W "official" TDP. Otherwise the higher power budget for 13gen K sku is a real disappointment.

Nice. I doubt a many Malaysians has such high end systems, as we can't afford as well as Westerners. Do you use it for work purpose?

think u really dont know malaysia

u can find 10 year old with

7950x
rtx 4090 strix or aorus extreme
asus x670e extreme or auroud extreme
fullywatercooled
64gb ram 6400 gskill or corsaid
1600w thor psu of some other brand

do not underestimate malaysians where during covid luxury cars demand was insane eventhough ppl drove nowhere.

next just chill in asus rog concept store or heck any apple store.

what i posted was i was lucky that my 7600 kit can bench high ram.

This post has been edited by cstkl1: Nov 5 2022, 12:28 AM

Hahaha I guess its a different Malaysia that I knew... one that is complaining about how RM is shit, imported stuff (ie PC parts) are super expensive, inflation, and general unhappiness.

That specs above woulda cost RM 10,000 - 15,000 so its not ur typical Malaysian affordable level unlike in US or EU where is a lot more common.

But anyhow, if urs is not for incoming earning purposes or mining then kudos that you could comfortably afford for it. As for me, I'm gonna build a much more modest PC this 11.11 sale.

If u continue to listen to those stuff in the media/social media. That is TOXIC. so much that so that it clouds ur judgement.
Whinging on those things not gonna get u anywhere.

Ppl in US/EU has its own living cost structure. so it's not comparable. And even each West/EU individual countries has its own problems and issues. So it's not smooth sailing there as well.

10-15K spend in PC parts here is manageable provided (finances) being planned carefully. And careful selection of parts.

i would buy if it is 10-15k, seems more like rm20,000+

wrong , so wrong.


core count still doesnt helped in most case
even today (per app)

do u know how hard, how complex to have ur software/programme to utilize multicore?

and utilize 2 core and 4core are also completely different story?

u cant split calculation into different core
u can only schedule task to different core


some app like rendering with very simple repetitive task(rendering) can easily benefit frm core count.

in daily case, core count helped when multitasking, running many apps.


this is why 64core 128thread ryzen threadripper is slower in game.
same for intel xeon.

it still limited by single core top speed. not core count.


2nd, OC

oc always a thing, unless u saying DIY OC..
because most cpu today are cone with auto Turbo..