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post Mar 11 2021, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Mar 11 2021, 12:56 PM)
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msi better on mid end. asus nerfs the training of ram etc
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Ok thanks. I'll look around with MSI MEG Z590 boards.

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post Mar 11 2021, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(targon @ Mar 11 2021, 02:12 PM)
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Not extreme range. Mid range enough for me. I would go Asus Maximus if Godlike anyway.
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post Mar 15 2021, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Mar 14 2021, 10:26 PM)

Gaming temps 43-47C under 240mm aio... where is the gang who says intel runs hot laugh.gif
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Intel non K CPU clock speed is lower and running 240mm AIO. 11900K will be hot, just like 10900K. Die is 40% bigger.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-rocket-lake-delidded

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post Mar 15 2021, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(terradrive @ Mar 15 2021, 08:37 AM)
isn't bigger die means more efficient heat transfer to the IHS? So should be good for the temperature since people been saying ryzen is hot because the individual 7nm chip is too small to transfer heat efficiently.
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Intel pushes their flagship chips hard. It will boost up to specified temp. I can guarantee you I can pull another 80ish celcius from 10900K on my 360mm. Ryzen is harder to cool due to higher W/mm2. They pack more transistors and more cores. Ryzen also comes with crappy idle power management. They boost too easily.

Anandtech review is not using final BIOS. Surely got more optimization coming from Intel.

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post Mar 15 2021, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Mar 15 2021, 09:58 AM)
That’s expected for 11900k and also due to tvb but usually 80C on the 360mm aio will be 5.3ghz all core situation already which is frankly not that bad. Amd with PBO also easily hit those temps.

However due to the difference in boosting algorithm, especially in games, Intel will only run hot when you force it to load with stuff like prime and aida.

even a 5.3ghz all core 11900k will run pretty cool, there’s a video by the same channel that ran gaming tests on an ES 11900k where it is only hitting 47-55C while the ryzens are above 75C with a 240mm aio.

Anandtech review shows that avx2 load is peak 80c with a 15 year old cooler.  They kinda need to purposely run the avx512 loads to say it is hot lol.
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All I can say is any processors these days will make use of the temperatures. You get longer turbo when you have better cooling.

Sometimes I play MMO with 100+ players onscreen. Thats one of the games that push CPU.

Yeah, just wait for reviews using final BIOS. 2 weeks to go.....

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QUOTE(yimingwuzere @ Mar 15 2021, 10:24 AM)
They retested with a newer BIOS. https://www.anandtech.com/show/16549/rocket...n-core-i711700k

Probably can still expect more to come after this.
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Still got 2 weeks to go. And more time to reach our shores.

I'm looking at 11900K, Corsair H150i Elite Capellix or EK AIO 360, MSI MPG Z590 Gaming Force or Carbon. Price still will decide what I buy.
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QUOTE(edmund_yung @ Mar 15 2021, 11:45 AM)
Nice, can't wait to see the MSRP, and kick AMD ass in upping the best price/perf.

Reverse of 3700X vs 9900k.
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It will go up. AMD stopped undercutting with Zen 3. 11900K at RM2499-2699 is not unexpected.

And Z590 prices are nuts.
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QUOTE(edmund_yung @ Mar 15 2021, 11:59 AM)
I hope can get the i7-11700 + B560 mITX within RM2k budget, that'll be sweet.
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Rumored prices shows it wont be cheap.

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https://www.extremetech.com/computing/32038...%20CPU%20family.

USD389 = RM1601 (not including other charges) for 11700 alone.

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post Mar 16 2021, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Mar 15 2021, 07:46 PM)
can fap to switches tongue.gif

GIGABYTE Announces Z590 AORUS Tachyon Motherboard for Extreme Overclocking
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My experience with Gigabyte on both AMD and Intel tells me to avoid it.
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post Mar 16 2021, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(llk @ Mar 16 2021, 05:30 PM)
So u banned Asus (due to pricetag) and now Giga, which brand do you want to ban next? 'Missing Something Inside'? lol
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Yeah, gonna go for Missing Something Inside. lol
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post Mar 16 2021, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Mar 16 2021, 05:47 PM)
missing something inside really was missing 8Xpcie lanes on my B450 gaming plus...

On my z490i it is missing my free devil may cry game redemption laugh.gif
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Have to be careful buying it. Price on Rocket isnt encouraging though.

Someone get this from US.
https://www.microcenter.com/category/429496...processors-cpus

Too cheap to ignore.
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QUOTE(MetalIronWood @ Mar 16 2021, 06:35 PM)
guys, any idea when it's the 11th generation release? and what is the different between chipset b560 and z590, i see almost same features.
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Rumors points at March 30

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-roc...nce-all-we-know
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Mar 16 2021, 08:19 PM)
ASRock?
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Don't trust them either. Their 400 series chipset got crap VRM.
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QUOTE(MetalIronWood @ Mar 16 2021, 08:28 PM)
bro, so which good brand for b560, im planning to get when the 11th gen is out.
i'm thinking giga aorus ATX.
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Board not available. Get yourself a time machine.
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post Mar 17 2021, 12:09 AM

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Official Intel specs and pricing.

https://www.techspot.com/news/88934-intel-1...w-official.html

Launch on March 30.

Real time memory OC will be interesting.
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QUOTE(popopi @ Mar 17 2021, 10:38 AM)
still 14nm with this Rocket Lake...
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Cheaper than Ryzen 5 though.
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QUOTE(versey @ Mar 17 2021, 01:08 PM)
Good things no cheap, cheap things no good
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Did you check today's prices?

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QUOTE(cawan @ Mar 21 2021, 02:02 PM)
Intel 11th Gen, with socket 1200 will be last with support motherboard.. this already projectiles year back.

For new Mid to Probuilder going with high end rig, think twice.. Look like short term investment.

Sad but true 11600k , 11700f .. 11900k, board Z490 z590 all money fly.

Cpu, aio, air cooler bracket this not ngam.. need to catch ddr5 some more..
Bye bye scalper, damn you stock keeper, and any black market..
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Change motherboard for a new CPU pretty much normal for me. Motherboard prices are getting ridiculous though.



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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Mar 24 2021, 07:37 AM)
Hey folks. Just asking. New owner of a "refurb" / "DFO" Dell, running an intel 10700 + 2070 Super.

I know the mobo and cpu is essentially non over-clockable (which is fine by me because I am looking for stability and reliability).

This one comes with 500w psu, but there's these talks about i7 10th gens suck up a lot of power, so is there anything I can do about it?

Or just don't do anything?

Context: I own a laptop since 2007, and another since 2014, so I have zero idea about desktop these days.
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Just get watt meter. Idle wise, should be a lot less.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-co...-10700k/18.html



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QUOTE(mazda @ Mar 27 2021, 06:49 PM)
Good deal if I wanna pair with 11gen?
Any downside ? Gaming purposes

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Motherboard got low quality VRM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdgNEXpBrfg

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