QUOTE(nizam86 @ Mar 3 2021, 08:20 AM)
Whale just a big holder...they not interested to affect the market much.
Shark they have big capital to disturb the market..they can sell a lot to drop the price and then buy back at lower to make profit. Usually the make profit with margin
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QUOTE(keluarpattern @ Mar 3 2021, 11:50 AM)
If let's say real game
Whale vs shark
Who normally win?
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Afaik, there are mainly 2 types of pump-and-dump plus buy-low-and-sell-high schemes/scams, ie the very quick one, setup by BIG Shark market manipulators, likeΒ the Gamestop/GME share price being pumped from about US$20 to US$400 over 5 days - a few months later, they move on to their next target to pump-n-dump, ... eg gold and crude oil prices;
... and the very slow/gradualΒ one, setup by BIG Whale market manipulators, like the Dow Jones Index/DJI(from about 10,000 points in 2009 to 30,000+ points in 2021) and AAPL/Tesla share price being pumped up gradually over the course of aboutΒ 10-25 years or so. .......
Note that the DJI was Crashed(down by >50%) in 1974, 1982 and 2008. .......
https://www.macrotrends.net/1319/dow-jones-...istorical-chartThe Business news media are likely part of this pump-and-dump plus buy-low-and-sell-high schemes/scams.
In the Free Market, it is quite easy for the BIG Sharks and Whales to manipulate stock/share prices according to their news-media-scripted scenario, eg the supposedly short-squeeze or Gamestonk or HODL of GME/Gamestop shares at end Jan 2021. They become like gods of the Stock Market, eg able to set the date for a pump or a Market Crash.
Eg we can have institutional investors like Hedge-fund/Mutual-fund A, B and C holding a horde of millions of Gamestop/GME shares, bought at US$5 in Aug 2020 or earlier. At end Jan 2021, A starts selling a few GME shares to B at US$30 per share. Then B sells the same GME shares to C at US$40 per share. Later C sells back the same to A at US$50 = like a Merry-Go-Round. Rinse and Repeat this mutual selling and buying of the same shares, either to pump up or down the share prices.Β Since A, B and C are cohorts or of the same 'gang', there was no real loss or profit between them.
....... After pumping up the share price to its peak(= US$483), they dumped/offloaded the bulk of their horde of millions of GME shares to gullible Retail investors at >US$100 per share = profits of >2,000%. The number of gullible Retail investors or suckers baited into paying the high prices for GME shares/BTC/AAPL/etc determines how high and how long the pump-n-dump scheme works, eg the peak price and bull run/pump/Wave.
So, Sharks and Whales have the same market-manipulating genes and both are out to prey on the small fries or ikan bilis or gullible Retail investors or suckers.
The only difference between the Whales and Sharks is the amount of investment capital, ie Whales put in more buy or dump capital, eg when the DJI was at about 10,000 points in 2009, the Whales sweep in to buy US$ trillions or billions of Blue-chip shares across the Board. Then they gradually dump their lowly-bought shares by selling them at higher pump prices yearly, reserving the bulk of their share holdings to be dumped at peak prices just before they crash the Market.
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P S - Many of the Whales and Sharks may be members of the Freemasons or Illuminati or etc.
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This post has been edited by lurkingaround: Mar 3 2021, 03:47 PM 
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