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post Apr 24 2022, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(latte36 @ Apr 24 2022, 09:55 AM)
Exynos. No headaches. Samsung malaysia warranty is the ultimate reason.
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Second that.

Exynos 990 probably scared a lot of people.

Exynos 2100 & above
You are fine.
They are competitive against SD888. Still lost a bit to SD888...but you are not going to feel it. It's just as fast as the SD888.
Overheat? - Nope. It's warm...but definitely not overheat. SD888 is not anything better
Battery life - Nearly identical (don't compare with S20Fe...it's not running on SD888)

Seriously, if you want long battery life & less heat...go mid-range or anything SD865 & below.

Anything with SD888 or Gen 1 class CPU will struggle with battery life. Unless, manufacturer slapped a 6000Mah battery or higher in it. Cortex-X1 leave a lot to be desired.

Just look at S22 thread...folks there are struggling with battery life. The S22U fare better bcoz of that 5000Mah battery...others...expect a 1 stop at least if you are heavy user.


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post Apr 24 2022, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(lambox105 @ Apr 24 2022, 05:12 PM)
If battery life is not a concern, better get snapdragon units as they are prone to be more stable in long term

S21 series, get dual sim (HK) as single sim (US) 5g bands not supported
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SD has a more powerful Adreno graphic. Many games are optimised to use with them.
Optimised doesn't mean it won't run on Mali ya.

As far as stability goes, both are the same. Android works well in both of them.

I probably take the SD version in the era of Exynos 990. But with Exynos 2100, the road of going import version do not yield substantial benefits.
I'll still go with official MY set....unless you are really getting a very good price on the import version...then the risk may worth.
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post Apr 24 2022, 11:25 PM

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Yes. The SD865 & below is fine if you are not seeking cutting edge technology. But I do agree...the low internal storage on these devices could be a deal breaker for some (at least for me). WA take a lot too.

S20FE is nearly the good phone for me...until I realise the virtual proximity sensor is a hit or miss

S21FE return the hardware proximity sensor...but you loose the SD storage.

Oh well...you can't have everything I guess.

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post Apr 25 2022, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(wongtheboy92 @ Apr 24 2022, 11:37 PM)
Ya, I noticed virtual prox is being used in S20FE and A52S (hot-selling phones) while the sensor (hardware) is implemented back on S21FE, sadly, it ain't a SD version. So what is your daily driver currently? Also SD888 and Gen 1 are manufactured by Samsung, if TSMC manufactures the flagship chips, it could be better, ain't it?
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256GB version S21FE. Exynos 2100. SOT more than 4hrs...less than 5 hrs. Battery life is nothing to shout about.

The reason Qualcomm move to TSMC is because of the low yield in Samsung fabrication. While "plus" is added into the prefix...rumour has it that the "plus" version cost more to produce & power efficiency seems similar

It has to do with the architecture of the Cortex-X1 core than anything else. News has it that the X2 core is worst.

Anyway, it's not here yet...so wait & see.
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post Apr 25 2022, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Apr 25 2022, 10:06 PM)
Yeah, the focus on performance above all else is really hurting efficiency TBH. Qualcomm really gotta pull their heads out of their behinds methinks, we already have more "performance" than what we know what to do with already.

Unless running Genshin at 120hz is all everyone wants to do with their phone all the time lah.
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True. The gaming guy wanted occasional photo...so they don't go Black Shark. The photo guy wanted occasional gaming...so they don't go reno series or some sort. The premium guy wanted front & back glass...so they don't go plastic. The endurance guy wanted 1 charge thru the day...so they don't go phone with small battery. We probably see future

7" phone (run cooler as you can fit more cooling chamber)
250g weight (to fit those glass + big battery)
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post Apr 26 2022, 12:31 AM

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Typo
SOT more than 5 hrs, less than 6 hrs for my usage.
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post Apr 26 2022, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Apr 26 2022, 12:42 AM)
For example the entire S20-22 family from a design standpoint. Would it have been absolutely horrific if they were to simply push out the backplate to be level with the camera bump and give us extra battery (and added cooling) along with the extra space?

Nope, aesthetics first laugh.gif

Like with the S22, I can't even brain why you'd wanna create an entirely new (and smaller even) battery for it when you can just work the frame to fit the old S20/21 unit and save on developmental costs sweat.gif

But hey, we're not Sammy management laugh.gif
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Point taken on aesthetics. But just make the phone slightly thicker and slap that 4800Mah. 300 Mah would have make S21FE so much more stronger.

Same thought came to mind when I watched the S22 launching. Smaller battery? Seriously?
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post Apr 27 2022, 09:00 AM

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QUOTE(mytaffeta @ Apr 26 2022, 04:08 PM)
pull triggered and bought s21 fe.. coming from honor 20 pro 980 kirin, im quite disappoint battery life on s21.. laju turun compare to even my almost 3 year old honor phone.. anyway, on my 4th day, hopefully better next week..
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Turn off 5G if your provider don't support it yet. Deep sleep Lazada & Shoppe (2 notorious apps). Turn off adaptive brightness if it's not your things.

Not sure how is your usage, but average SOT of more than 5hrs, less than 6 hrs should be attainable.

Look out some tweaks in S22 that may suit you.
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post Apr 27 2022, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(MyProLife @ Apr 27 2022, 09:38 AM)
Does S21 FE (local set at least) comes with physical lights sensor instead of relying on front camera

I know many A & M series do rely on front camera, even S20 FE and S10 lite as well
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Yes. S21FE come with hardware proximity sensor. If you use your phone a lot for call, you'll appreciate it.
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post Apr 27 2022, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(PJng @ Apr 27 2022, 03:35 PM)
Proximity not same like light sensor
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What do the light sensor do?
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post Apr 27 2022, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(PJng @ Apr 27 2022, 04:48 PM)
Proximity sensor, when talking phone, screen off
Light sensor, for screen brightness auto adjust depend on current light environment
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Thanks.

I believe the S21FE uses the front camera for ambient control too. I tested with my S21FE, turn on adaptive display, cover camera one by one, then cover all the rear...only the front one seems to adjust the display.

Unless the sensor is just next to the camera.

Hope it helps.
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post Apr 28 2022, 12:36 PM

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For S21FE, it's still the front camera
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post May 2 2022, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(lambox105 @ May 2 2022, 02:27 PM)
If you plan to replace phone every 2 years, then you may opt for EXY#### version
Else, if you use more than 2 years, get snapdragon as easy as that
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This statement is flaw.

They are both as lasting as it meant to be. Snapdragon nudge ahead in gaming performance...but its not that it leave Exynos 2100 far. You won't notice it.

MY set...for piece of mind.

The snapdragon performance different isn't worth the warranty & support you are losing via import set.

Do some study on the Exynos 2100. Dont just say all Exynos no good.

The Exynos nightmare ended with Exynos 990
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post May 2 2022, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(haroldz123 @ May 1 2022, 07:01 PM)
S21 FE owner already kambing here?

Or it is not popular?

Too bad it doesnt have earphone slot
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Probably underrated & it launched so close to the S22. Everyone flocking to the S22.

It's a good phone. Just the price seems not right. But now around RM 2,500...I think it's a decent buy.

S20FE is a better buy if you can leave with the virtual Proximity sensor implementation, screen display not so stellar. That SD865 is still plenty of power.
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post May 6 2022, 01:18 PM

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It's a decent deal. If you don't need the voucher + charger...some seller offered lower price. I bought my S21FE around RM 2,500+ plain box set.

With this budget, plenty of other phones to choose from. Its what you need & want. Eg. I make calls with the phone, so the virtual proximity bother me..I don't like curved display as well. I also don't like over 200g phone. I narrowed my selection from there.
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post May 6 2022, 08:13 PM

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Exynos 2100 is fine. I wouldn't consider Exynos 990.

Since you value camera performance, S21 series would be a good buy. S22 which cost you a bomb is cutting edge. The S21FE is only for you if you can accept it's water down camera. Else, take a look at Oneplus 10 or Mi 12 Ultra and see if it's your cup of tea.

I choose S21FE...flat screen. light weight , 6.4 is decent, camera is above average. Was with Huawei Mate 20 before this.

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post May 7 2022, 02:52 PM

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If Samsung ecosystem matter to you. Then Samsung it is. The S21 & S21FE biggest different is the telephoto lens. If your photography rarely utilise zoom/ more than 3x zoom, then the advantages become irrelevant.

Low light condition is another. Unless you take photo in really dark scenario, else this advantage become less important as well. When reviewer say not that good...it doesn't mean bad.

Check out more review to see if the photo taken by S21FE meet your expectation. I remember one reviewer say S21FE photo is just as good as the S21...unless you are really nitpicking.

But then again I'm no photo expert. I didn't really know if those differences matter for a photo guy.

S21 series are out of production (except S21FE). If you wait longer...you probably won't get new set.

Hope the above helps.
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post May 12 2022, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(sayming @ May 11 2022, 11:42 PM)
Hey guys. How else can I check the warranty on a used S21 Ultra without receipt? The warranty period not appearing on Samsung Members and I am not getting any reply by sending SMS to 62002.
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If you don't get a response via SMS, you can live chat or call SME for verification.

Even if it's under warranty, make sure it's not a Telco set to avoid disappointment later.
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post Jun 10 2022, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(lambox105 @ Jun 8 2022, 10:16 PM)
According to someone exynos for s21 series is on par to SD...

But for me the receving telco line signal is not as strong as SD...

As for lag, did you just update your phone to a major version?
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The Exynos 2100 is neck to neck to SD888 except gaming performance. The SD still lead good by around 10-20%.

Anything before Exynos 2100 is no good...this I agreed.

Exynos 2100 is the first by Samsung that didn't use the Mangrove architecture. It uses ARM, which is the exact same core as SD. Hence the similar performance.

Graphic wise...I think all agreed that Mali didn't beat Adreno yet.

If the S21 series is lagging for you...then time for top dog...the SD8 Gen1. S22+ at least (bigger battery). Get powerbank ready & you are good to go.
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post Jun 21 2022, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(Asgaard @ Jun 20 2022, 09:14 AM)
My ss21 is lagging badly.

Damn shit exynos
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My S21FE local set is doing well. Snappy. But then again, I'm coming from Mate 20...so your terms lagging could very much be subjective.

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