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AMD showcased 3 GHz Phenom @ GC, Pheenommm i action.....
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TSncool15
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Aug 25 2007, 07:59 PM, updated 19y ago
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We had a chance to see AMD's upcoming Phenom processor clocked at impressive 3GHz. We learned that the CPU was not that hot and it was cooled with a standard cooler and at the same time it was not running that hot. We didn't had any sensors but we put our hand on it and felt the heath. The demo system clearly showed that we are talking about 3GHz Quad core CPU and we were surprised to see Unreal Engine 3 based Stranglehold game to utilize all four cores of the Phenom. AMD was kind enough to let us picture the system but due to secrecy reasons we were not allowed to use CPU-Z or additional tool as AMD didn't want to show all the details about it. Source : http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=179507
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The Scent LYN
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Aug 25 2007, 08:12 PM
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Sapoz to be heat right !  Sweet looking setup there.
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badguy86
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Aug 27 2007, 08:44 PM
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Hey guys, check out this AMD's upcoming quad-core processor Phenom X4 logo, not bad ma.  Source: http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=180836
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mfa333
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Aug 27 2007, 09:08 PM
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wow... phenom still not using 65nm tech right?
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amduser
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Aug 27 2007, 09:14 PM
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any idea when its reaching malaysia?? can an one guest the price?? maybe RM1k++
ADDON: i see the article form that link TS post, they say AM2 can support it, is it true??
This post has been edited by amduser: Aug 27 2007, 09:16 PM
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badguy86
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Aug 27 2007, 10:22 PM
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According to source PCPOP.com, the AMD so call "the native quad-core processor" coded K10 will launch on 10th September 2007!!! Here's the pic of AMD K10 Phenom X4 inside core,  Source: http://www.pcpop.com/doc/0/221/221822.shtml
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X.E.D
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Aug 27 2007, 10:24 PM
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QUOTE(mfa333 @ Aug 27 2007, 09:08 PM) wow... phenom still not using 65nm tech right?  It is. Otherwise it would be nuts for AMD to invest in 65nm earlier.
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Faint
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Aug 27 2007, 11:38 PM
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QUOTE(badguy86 @ Aug 27 2007, 08:44 PM) Hey guys, check out this AMD's upcoming quad-core processor Phenom X4 logo, not bad ma.  Source: http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=180836This logo very nice, i like this But still dunno when this processor release....
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- L e O -
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Aug 28 2007, 12:14 AM
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*starts saving money*
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Bigblock
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Aug 28 2007, 01:23 AM
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4X phenom 65 nm proc..have to wait and see its arrival in m'sia.Price also..nice logo also..
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obefiend
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Aug 28 2007, 02:33 AM
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aw shucks.. new cpu means new mobo. have to start selling stuff again to get this monster. the question is it , it is better than the intel quad..
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gtoforce
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Aug 28 2007, 02:36 AM
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amd will get it right on september but december will be the time for intel penryn plak adoi adoi adoi im an AMD fanboy haha
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jamallj
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Aug 28 2007, 04:23 AM
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its hard to choose lar... just bought abit KN9 ultra.. have to sell if really want to upgrade..
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8tvt
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Aug 28 2007, 09:17 AM
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current mobo can fully utilise it? didn't see new mobo around..
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Im_beside_yoU
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Aug 28 2007, 09:19 AM
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i <3 AMD
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SlayerXT
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Aug 28 2007, 09:31 AM
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QUOTE(badguy86 @ Aug 27 2007, 10:22 PM) According to source PCPOP.com, the AMD so call "the native quad-core processor" coded K10 will launch on 10th September 2007!!! Here's the pic of AMD K10 Phenom X4 inside core,  Source: http://www.pcpop.com/doc/0/221/221822.shtmlThis 10th sept only Barcelona aka Opteron. The Phenom X4 only january next yr. By this christmas only Phenom X2.
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rockmaniac85
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Aug 28 2007, 09:37 AM
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fuyoo, cam gempax plak.. my fren jus wanted to get a pc, now i have to think twice, whether to get an intel, or amd..
september.. hope he can sabaq...
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SlayerXT
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Aug 28 2007, 11:11 AM
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If u can wait for another 3 months then better grab Phenom for new build system, anyway it depends a lot on pricing.
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beast921
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Aug 28 2007, 11:19 AM
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 Phenom.........wahhhh can it support AM2 MoBO? I'm drooling already here...............
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fiqir
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Aug 28 2007, 11:20 AM
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QUOTE(badguy86 @ Aug 27 2007, 08:44 PM) Hey guys, check out this AMD's upcoming quad-core processor Phenom X4 logo, not bad ma.  Source: http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=180836the new logo really nice la
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soulfly
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Aug 28 2007, 11:30 AM
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revving towards 10,000 rpm
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There is no real need for a new mobo. The current AM2 mobo will fully support the Star processors, minus new features such as split power lanes
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8tvt
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Aug 28 2007, 11:38 AM
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hopefully the split power thingy n HT 3.0 not hold/limit much the current mobo.. just can buy new proc.. great..
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rainingzero
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Aug 28 2007, 12:25 PM
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This phenom got how many version actually??only diff clockspeed??or got diff in cache??maybe just like c2d which got variety version from diff cache, to diff clockspeed...??
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ruffstuff
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Aug 28 2007, 12:44 PM
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QUOTE(rainingzero @ Aug 28 2007, 12:25 PM) This phenom got how many version actually??only diff clockspeed??or got diff in cache??maybe just like c2d which got variety version from diff cache, to diff clockspeed...?? The amount of cores and clockspeed. Each cores have 512kb L2 cache. 2mb shared L3 cache.
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beast921
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Aug 28 2007, 01:10 PM
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3 version arrrr???? whoaaaa.............cant wait oooorrr, hope phenom X4 the price not more then RM550.
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-pWs-
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Aug 28 2007, 01:23 PM
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Look at all my stars!!
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Will Phenom fully supported in socket AM2?
-pWs-
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Im_beside_yoU
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Aug 28 2007, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE(beast921 @ Aug 28 2007, 01:10 PM) 3 version arrrr???? whoaaaa.............cant wait oooorrr, hope phenom X4 the price not more then RM550. in your dream  , current quad core price at least rm900+
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8tvt
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Aug 28 2007, 01:44 PM
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FX maybe.. wait sometime for AM2..
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amduser
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Aug 28 2007, 03:30 PM
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i love the new logo, they change to new white arrow instead of the old green arrow XD, well, i'm not not a heavy gamer, if gt X2 version maybe i will choose X2 version of phenom
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likito
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Aug 28 2007, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE(amduser @ Aug 28 2007, 03:30 PM) i love the new logo, they change to new white arrow instead of the old green arrow XD, well, i'm not not a heavy gamer, if gt X2 version maybe i will choose X2 version of phenom ya , new phonem logo quite nice , but the 64 quite small
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ruffstuff
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Aug 28 2007, 03:45 PM
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QUOTE(likito @ Aug 28 2007, 03:41 PM) ya , new phonem logo quite nice , but the 64 quite small  It would be better if the 64 is not even there. The 64 bit hype is long gone already.
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hakunamatata
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Aug 28 2007, 03:50 PM
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when will the AMD x4 realease? thinking wan to get 3600+brisbane or 4800+ brisbane for my new proc..
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soulfly
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Aug 28 2007, 03:52 PM
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revving towards 10,000 rpm
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Aug 28 2007, 01:23 PM) Will Phenom fully supported in socket AM2? -pWs-read my above reply
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ronaldjoe
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Aug 28 2007, 03:57 PM
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-pWs-
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Aug 28 2007, 04:38 PM
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Look at all my stars!!
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 28 2007, 03:52 PM) Ops..Sorry. Understood that.  But for the feature that are not supported in AM2, will it differ much in performance and overclockabiliy? -pWs-
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beast921
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Aug 28 2007, 04:44 PM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Aug 28 2007, 04:38 PM) Ops..Sorry. Understood that.  But for the feature that are not supported in AM2, will it differ much in performance and overclockabiliy? -pWs-Dont worry, buy proc first then later got extra money buy mobo & ram. then overclock like nobody bussiness or tak ingat dunia. asus RD780 Board. http://uk.theinquirer.net/?article=40058This post has been edited by beast921: Aug 28 2007, 05:01 PM
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X.E.D
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Aug 28 2007, 04:54 PM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ Aug 28 2007, 04:38 PM) Ops..Sorry. Understood that.  But for the feature that are not supported in AM2, will it differ much in performance and overclockabiliy? -pWs-Power management might have a hit. Per-core power settings might not be enabled, but for sure no split power planes (IMC yeah, but for the cores?) and HTT 3. Just get RD790/780. It's the X38/P35 of AMD, and it still runs freaking cool (judging by the reference design) Added on August 28, 2007, 4:56 pmBy the way: http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=c...d=2702&Itemid=1Yeah, from FUD-O but it makes sense seeing the CPU supply at launch. This post has been edited by X.E.D: Aug 28 2007, 04:56 PM
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stevenlee
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Aug 28 2007, 05:32 PM
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just wonder can AMD regain back thier crown with phenom...
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mentalkronik
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Aug 28 2007, 06:53 PM
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when it will release in market??  the logo become dark n dark...
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Hornet
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Aug 28 2007, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE(stevenlee @ Aug 28 2007, 05:32 PM) just wonder can AMD regain back thier crown with phenom... Would depends on how strong each core performs. Unlike GPU, in general purpose processors more core doesn't necessarily equate to more processing power, especially for applications that doesn't utilizes parallel processing. Maybe it's naive 4 core architecture might help it in apps that supports up to 4 threads simultaneously against Intel's 2x2 architecture, only if its single core performance is high enough. So it still goes down to how each core performs.
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Creative
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Aug 29 2007, 03:11 AM
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Getting Started
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ikanayam
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Aug 29 2007, 05:43 AM
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QUOTE(Creative @ Aug 28 2007, 02:11 PM) Obviously BS. lol. http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=2835078That's with some ridiculously high clocked R600s and a 5ghz kentsfield. 3DMark is still GPU biased, so obviously he's just making it up.
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SUSdattebayo
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Aug 29 2007, 07:36 AM
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AMD bring back the L3 cache no more Athlon name in the future, except for entry level processor.
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lck
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Aug 29 2007, 09:07 AM
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Check this out this link, Source: http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/AMD_Phenom...Board/5201.htmlGot pics with Cpu-z info for the processor.
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Im_beside_yoU
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Aug 29 2007, 09:38 AM
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QUOTE ...the Barcelona will eventually fare against an equivalent Intel processor.
* 20-30% better performance overall * 170% better performance in some benchmarks http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.aspx?artno=434
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toughnut
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Aug 29 2007, 09:51 AM
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no use stating how it will compare. show proofs. benchmarks. i really hope AMD doesn't delay it again.
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8tvt
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Aug 29 2007, 10:01 AM
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got SSE4.. wait it's SSE4A, name only?
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Creative
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Aug 29 2007, 10:34 AM
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lol.. i know ikanayam wont agree no matter what:P hehe
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soulfly
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Aug 29 2007, 11:27 AM
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revving towards 10,000 rpm
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QUOTE(Im_beside_yoU @ Aug 29 2007, 09:38 AM) that info is nothing new. it's just a claim, not a conclusion.
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linkinstreet
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Aug 29 2007, 12:59 PM
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Red Bull Addict
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QUOTE(ikanayam @ Aug 29 2007, 05:43 AM) Obviously BS. lol. http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=2835078That's with some ridiculously high clocked R600s and a 5ghz kentsfield. 3DMark is still GPU biased, so obviously he's just making it up. QUOTE(Creative @ Aug 29 2007, 10:34 AM) lol.. i know ikanayam wont agree no matter what:P hehe never trust the enquirer. They are just fanboys This post has been edited by linkinstreet: Aug 29 2007, 12:59 PM
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amduser
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Aug 29 2007, 03:38 PM
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if this proc coming out, athlon 64 gonna drop price XD cant wait, haha
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X.E.D
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Aug 29 2007, 05:21 PM
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QUOTE(ikanayam @ Aug 29 2007, 05:43 AM) Obviously BS. lol. http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=2835078That's with some ridiculously high clocked R600s and a 5ghz kentsfield. 3DMark is still GPU biased, so obviously he's just making it up. Funnily I can't help but to agree. 2 2900XTs are monsters in 3Mark, but filling 3000-5000 3Marks on the CPU side only? Fishy fishy. (Maybe the link you gave was single card, didn't see CF indication) Unless it's RD790, which in all cases shows to a very competitive board design, but it just still doesn't have the magnitude to pull off something like this.
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Creative
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Aug 29 2007, 09:41 PM
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actually i trust no one, its just same thing happened when inquirer reveal the first radeon HD 2XXX series benchmark, no one really believe it, they said ATI is slower than nvidia's offering. maybe 95% of stories are true on the inquirer, you wouldn't know.. wait till someone get the real barcelona benchmarks. i know intel fans wont agree on anything that is faster than core 2  moreover if it is from sites like the inquirer  hehe
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ikanayam
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Aug 29 2007, 11:47 PM
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QUOTE(Creative @ Aug 29 2007, 08:41 AM) actually i trust no one, its just same thing happened when inquirer reveal the first radeon HD 2XXX series benchmark, no one really believe it, they said ATI is slower than nvidia's offering. maybe 95% of stories are true on the inquirer, you wouldn't know.. wait till someone get the real barcelona benchmarks. i know intel fans wont agree on anything that is faster than core 2  moreover if it is from sites like the inquirer  hehe No, 5% of the stories are true. The radeon info they had earlier was one of the few true stories. This one is not true, it's impossible.
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linkinstreet
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Aug 29 2007, 11:57 PM
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Red Bull Addict
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QUOTE(Creative @ Aug 29 2007, 09:41 PM) actually i trust no one, its just same thing happened when inquirer reveal the first radeon HD 2XXX series benchmark, no one really believe it, they said ATI is slower than nvidia's offering. maybe 95% of stories are true on the inquirer, you wouldn't know.. wait till someone get the real barcelona benchmarks. i know intel fans wont agree on anything that is faster than core 2  moreover if it is from sites like the inquirer  hehe Meh, they once predicted microsoft will go bancrupt with Vista (which they decided to call ME II). Funny enough, that article dissappeared after Vista was launched
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afosz
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Aug 30 2007, 01:06 AM
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I'm more interested on Kuma and Agena instead of Barcelona. It is a socket F/F+ processor right? Also there's Agena FX for AM2/AM2+, low-end ones IINM. Others, socket F/F+
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Faint
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Aug 30 2007, 01:28 AM
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Just wait this processor launch. That time there will lots of comparison, benchmark in the Internet.
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linkinstreet
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Aug 30 2007, 11:09 AM
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Red Bull Addict
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QUOTE(Faint @ Aug 30 2007, 01:28 AM) Just wait this processor launch. That time there will lots of comparison, benchmark in the Internet.  as long as this can keep the price war on it's peak, Imma happy.
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SlayerXT
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Aug 30 2007, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Aug 29 2007, 10:01 AM) got SSE4.. wait it's SSE4A, name only? SSE4A is only few instruction of Intel's SSE4 on penryn. QUOTE(afosz @ Aug 30 2007, 01:06 AM) I'm more interested on Kuma and Agena instead of Barcelona. It is a socket F/F+ processor right? Also there's Agena FX for AM2/AM2+, low-end ones IINM. Others, socket F/F+ Basically u go for desktop parts of K10 processor which is Agena(quad) or Kuma(dual)  . Highest end of Agena FX will use socket F/F+ which is basically for server modified platform for high end desktop.
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soulfly
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Aug 30 2007, 11:19 AM
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revving towards 10,000 rpm
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QUOTE(linkinstreet @ Aug 29 2007, 12:59 PM) never trust the enquirer. They are just fanboys The Enquirer aren't fanboys... they just love sensation.
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Kidicarus
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Aug 30 2007, 12:38 PM
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Enthusiast
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 30 2007, 11:19 AM) The Enquirer aren't fanboys... they just love sensation. Kinda hard to be considered fanboys when you criticise just about everyone under the sun lol. I think they're the own biggest fans. Been following le Inq for a few years now and I love their humourous approach to news. You just have to know which stories to take seriously.
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pikacu
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Aug 30 2007, 12:55 PM
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now everybody waiting for phenom benchmark..
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afosz
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Aug 30 2007, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Aug 30 2007, 11:18 AM) Basically u go for desktop parts of K10 processor which is Agena(quad) or Kuma(dual)  . Highest end of Agena FX will use socket F/F+ which is basically for server modified platform for high end desktop. that's what i meant. we as normal users should aim for desktop ones but then ppl are talking about Barcelona, Barcelona vs Conroe and so on, which is server type of processor. isn't it suppose to be like Opteron Barcelona vs Xeon?
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SlayerXT
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Aug 30 2007, 04:14 PM
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 30 2007, 11:19 AM) The Enquirer aren't fanboys... they just love sensation. 3DMark06 past 30000 with just 3GHz K10!!?  If 5 GHz maybe its true....
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X.E.D
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Aug 30 2007, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE(§layerXT @ Aug 30 2007, 04:14 PM) 3DMark06 past 30000 with just 3GHz K10!!?  If 5 GHz maybe its true....  Maybe their keyboards had 2 "6"s so they couldn't type out 3DMark 05
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ikanayam
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Aug 30 2007, 08:06 PM
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QUOTE(Kidicarus @ Aug 29 2007, 11:38 PM) Kinda hard to be considered fanboys when you criticise just about everyone under the sun lol. I think they're the own biggest fans. Been following le Inq for a few years now and I love their humourous approach to news. You just have to know which stories to take seriously. You can't know which to take seriously unless you have a combination of a functioning brain and good insider info. So it's quite hard for most people.
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