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 Which Abalone Origin Is The Best?, Australia, Chile, Mexico or S.Africa?

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SUStikaram
post Feb 11 2021, 01:51 AM

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Not mexico most expensive ke?
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post Feb 11 2021, 01:52 AM

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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Feb 11 2021, 01:49 AM)
No way they can ship thousands of tonnes of water elsewhere to dump without anyone notice.
Do you know their actual volume of tritium water?
You read other people say only, never read the real source.

The Oyster problem is water temperature related, not related to tritium.
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No one really knows they can just dump it into the rivers right those waste waters which is used to cool down the uranium rods. It has to land up somewhere right?
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post Feb 11 2021, 01:52 AM

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Dried abalone>canned abalone
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post Feb 11 2021, 01:53 AM

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QUOTE(tikaram @ Feb 11 2021, 01:51 AM)
Not mexico most expensive ke?
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Mexican followed by Chile and cheapest is Australian.
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post Feb 11 2021, 01:54 AM

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QUOTE(ywyap @ Feb 11 2021, 01:52 AM)
Dried abalone>canned abalone
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Takes few days to soak in water. I need it ready for today. No more time already.
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post Feb 11 2021, 01:56 AM

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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Feb 11 2021, 02:53 AM)
Mexican followed by Chile and cheapest is Australian.
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Some center africa country can get cheaper as abalone is not a taste food and thier per capital earning very low.
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post Feb 11 2021, 01:57 AM

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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Feb 11 2021, 01:52 AM)
No one really knows they can just dump it into the rivers right those waste waters which is used to cool down the uranium rods. It has to land up somewhere right?
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You talk about something you didn't know and pretend like you know.

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They have a large processing plant on site, each day waste water is many times larger than your house.
There is no river within the vicinity, only way to dump is on site.
You think like your 10 tonne, 20 tonne lorry can carry to dump like your Selangor river?
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post Feb 11 2021, 01:58 AM

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Just the other day at Tesco saw ppl merebut-rebut to buy rm2.50/abalone. Dare not buy. Why so much difference? Some hawkers also start selling KuaiTiow soup with 1 small abalone for rm12.
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post Feb 11 2021, 02:05 AM

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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Feb 11 2021, 01:57 AM)
You talk about something you didn't know and pretend like you know.

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They have a large processing plant on site, each day waste water is many times larger than your house.
There is no river within the vicinity, only way to dump is on site.
You think like your 10 tonne, 20 tonne lorry can carry to dump like your Selangor river?
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It's not like you can just filter out the nuclear particles out from the water like that so easily.

Every country out there also knows they're secretly dumping the water into the sea. Ask any regular Japanese they'd also be shy to ignore answering your question than to lie about it.
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post Feb 11 2021, 02:07 AM

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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Feb 11 2021, 02:05 AM)
It's not like you can just filter out the nuclear particles out from the water like that so easily.

Every country out there also knows they're secretly dumping the water into the sea. Ask any regular Japanese they'd also be shy to ignore answering your question than to lie about it.
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You are showing your ignorance again, the only thing they cannot filter out is tritium, which in itself have weak radiation.
Half life is only 12 years compared to uranium or plutonium.
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post Feb 11 2021, 02:27 AM

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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Feb 11 2021, 02:07 AM)
You are showing your ignorance again, the only thing they cannot filter out is tritium, which in itself have weak radiation.
Half life is only 12 years compared to uranium or plutonium.
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Look at those water tanks? Do you think the contaminated water will be stored in them forever? Logic will tell you that it'll eventually have to be offloaded somewhere right? The Japanese government has been quietly pouring them away behind public knowledge. Where do you think it went? Over the past few years ever since the tsunami, they've been draining it gradually. Where do you think is the best place to pour the water into?
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post Feb 11 2021, 02:39 AM

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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Feb 11 2021, 02:27 AM)
Look at those water tanks? Do you think the contaminated water will be stored in them forever? Logic will tell you that it'll eventually have to be offloaded somewhere right? The Japanese government has been quietly pouring them away behind public knowledge. Where do you think it went? Over the past few years ever since the tsunami, they've been draining it gradually. Where do you think is the best place to pour the water into?
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They already said they flush it on site.
And you are saying in the beginning of this argument they are shipping hundred of miles to Iwate to dump at abalone isn't it.
The didn't even make it a secret that they are dumping it after evaporation plan is not feasible.
Don't throw in oyster farm and everything else, cause not likely they will ship the water across prefecture to dump without anyone knowing or even make sense on the very least.
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post Feb 11 2021, 02:44 AM

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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Feb 11 2021, 02:39 AM)
They already said they flush it on site.
And you are saying in the beginning of this argument they are shipping hundred of miles to Iwate to dump at abalone isn't it.
The didn't even make it a secret that they are dumping it after evaporation plan is not feasible.
Don't throw in oyster farm and everything else, cause not likely they will ship the water across prefecture to dump without anyone knowing or even make sense on the very least.
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Did you see the beach just metres away from where they stored the contaminated water? The sea ain't still ya know. The entire Pacific Ocean which the east side of Japan and surrounding sea of Japan will carry the nuclear particles everywhere through water movements even through rivers which connect back to the seas.
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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Feb 11 2021, 02:44 AM)
Did you see the beach just metres away from where they stored the contaminated water? The sea ain't still ya know. The entire Pacific Ocean which the east side of Japan and surrounding sea of Japan will carry the nuclear particles everywhere through water movements even through rivers which connect back to the seas.
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You are wasting my time with your ignorance.
What nuclear particle? Uranium? Plutonium?
Only Tritium is left, and level is safe.
You keep on saying how do you know, people measure and test already, even by non governmental people on site, don't believe can still travel there.
I have a photographer friend who just visited before Corona.
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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Feb 11 2021, 01:53 AM)
Mexican followed by Chile and cheapest is Australian.
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Below Australia there's New Zealand and lastly China ones. These are for canned abalones.
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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Feb 11 2021, 02:44 AM)
Did you see the beach just metres away from where they stored the contaminated water? The sea ain't still ya know. The entire Pacific Ocean which the east side of Japan and surrounding sea of Japan will carry the nuclear particles everywhere through water movements even through rivers which connect back to the seas.
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its flushed to the sea after filtering the water of the most harmful contents

its not completely radiation free, but its within threshold. then its dumped into the sea

the large volume of the sea will dilute the radiation more

FYI, the pacific has been way polluted with radiations from nuclear bomb testing post-WW2 days since 1950s. not even filtered but letting the sea contain it instead.
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Feb 11 2021, 04:27 PM
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Feb 11 2021, 04:26 PM
This post has been deleted by Candy12 because: Irrelevant posting. No insults pls.

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QUOTE(Angelic Layer @ Feb 11 2021, 02:51 AM)
You are wasting my time with your ignorance.
What nuclear particle? Uranium? Plutonium?
Only Tritium is left, and level is safe.
You keep on saying how do you know, people measure and test already, even by non governmental people on site, don't believe can still travel there.
I have a photographer friend who just visited before Corona.
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This was just release some 3 months back in Fukushima. Korean fishermen/fish farmers are begging Japan NOT to release them into the sea as their fishery businesses will be greatly affected further with the ongoing COVID pandemic. China government is also issuing press statements addressing the concerns.



Fukushima Water Release Could Change Human DNA, Greenpeace Warns
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/24/asia/jap...scli/index.html

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In a report released Friday, Greenpeace said the water, in addition to radioactive isotope tritium, contains radioactive isotope carbon-14, which is "major contributor to collective human radiation dose and has the potential to damage human DNA."

Shaun Burnie, author of the report and senior nuclear specialist with Greenpeace Germany, told CNN there could be as much as 63.6GBq (gigabecquerels) of carbon-14 in total in the tanks.

"These, together with other radionuclides in the water will remain hazardous for thousands of years with the potential to cause genetic damage. It's one more reason why these plans have to be abandoned," Burnie said in a statement.

Claire Corkhill, reader in nuclear materials at the UK's University of Sheffield, who was not associated with the study, told CNN that tritium has been released into the sea in countries around the world and on numerous occasions, and the procedure has a "low impact on organisms."

She told CNN that recent TEPCO analysis of the water had shown that the radioactivity in the tanks was "more than was expected," and indicated the presence of carbon-14 or a beta-emitting radioisotope, technetium-99 -- but results have not yet shown how much carbon-14 is in the water.

"Any radioactive discharge carries some environmental and health risk," Francis Livens, a professor of radiochemistry at the University of Manchester told CNN, adding that the risk would be relative to how much carbon 14 would be released into the ocean. "An awful lot really does depend on how much is going to be discharged."

"If it's (carbon-14) there and it's there in quantity, yes, there probably is a risk associated with it," Livens, who is not associated with the Greenpeace study, said. "People have discharged carbon-14 into the sea over many years. It all comes down to how much is there, how much is dispersed, does it enter marine food chains and find its way back to people?"

Corkhill said while the Japanese government should be sure of how much carbon-14 is in the tanks before releasing the water into the sea, scientific modeling indicates that the levels of the isotope are within the limits of what the government deems safe.

"The most conservative estimates of how much carbon-14 they have still puts them below the Japanese legal limit for radioactive discharge to sea," she said.

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QUOTE(Candy12 @ Feb 11 2021, 04:25 PM)
This was just release some 3 months back in Fukushima. Korean fishermen/fish farmers are begging Japan NOT to release them into the sea as their fishery businesses will be greatly affected further with the ongoing COVID pandemic. China government is also issuing press statements addressing the concerns.



Fukushima Water Release Could Change Human DNA, Greenpeace Warns
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/24/asia/jap...scli/index.html
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No way, they are releasing it facing the pacific, Korea is on the opposite site of the island, nothing affects them at all.

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