Went to the showroom and site over the weekend. I like it. Let's start with the cons first. These are facts lah, no need argue over it.

C1. No direct/covered walkway to MRT gate C. There will be a staircase to cut across, but that's it. It is a short distance, like 100m only. But fact remains it is not "direct access". I've feedback to the UEM Sunrise consultant and they said many ppl feedback as well. They will inform management but no promises. So if got covered later, consider it a bonus. At least they never BS you say got and later tell grandmother story say municipal don't approve bla bla bla.

C2. Jam on Jalan Cheras, haiya, where got no jam one in city centre. I think this you just need to benchmark against other areas you are looking at. You don't want jam move to Kelantan or Terengganu. Access road also probably will jam during peak hours. Haiya ok la M Vertica win la got dedicated ramp, but getting to the ramp also jam right. But must admit it is a cons.

C3. Density, total 1344 units in 2 blocks on 3.4 acres. The land next to it will be developed later, density unknown. For reference, M Vertica is 36xx units on 11.25 acres.

C4. Oxidation pond south east of it.. I guess if you are on low floor facing it, it's a problem. Unlike the oxidation pond next to NPE, this one no smell. Maybe jiu lai ppl's shit more organic so no foul smell. [this not fact, this is speculation].

C5. Super basic unit. They give you aircon wiring point but not concealed aircon drain hose, which means you either need to hack the wall, OR use casing and install it on surface. OMG lah, wanna skimp on this meh. They can just offer a package to buyers like RM3k and say if you want the hose to be provided by developer. Why la buy brand new unit then have to hack the wall. Honestly you hack also it's gonna cost us, might as well developer offer upgrade package.

Pros
P1. MRT line 1 loh. Apa lagi.

P2. Freehold. Ok la, you can say not important, leasehold 99 years you don't live that long - true also. But end of the day, freehold means you hold your balls in your own hand. Leasehold, people let your hold "your" balls and say you can play with it for 99 years but their invisible hand also holding your balls. In the event you want to sell your balls and let someone else hold, freehold also easier. Leasehold you need seek consent, take some time. I not free to go seek consent la, I don't like to wait longer. It is not a problem, it is a preference. But Freehold is definitely a pros. I like to hold my balls with no invisible hand touching it. Very distant possibility, for leasehold, they can take the balls back after 99 years, and to renew the lease will cost $$$. Yes you already sell salted duck egg, but it becomes your children's problem. Then they will say why father/mother that time so smart go buy leasehold. You no kids then ok la, don't care la whoever your family member who gets it.

P3. UEM Sunrise. My engagement with the consultant so far, no BS, and they don't promise you anything that isn't there. Even show room they are very clear telling you what is included, what isn't. They will align your expectation. Tier 1 developer, I think end product should be ok, they are upfront about their kebodohan like C5 above. Someone in this thread mentioned yhsa is the architect.

P4. Location. It is not directly in front of Jalan Cheras, the mall become a buffer for it. This location, Taman Connaught. I don't want to go deep - it is fully matured with everything you need. Hospital, schools, malls etc. The mall right next door is a plus. Yes it is quite sad, don't even have grocer. Maybe after Connaught One VP, might have grocer move in. This is Cheras with a KL address. Which also means, no partition rooms!

My opinions:
O1. Design/facing. 9 floors of parking, got speed ramp 3->5->7->9 . The building facade also looks ok, the building got an angle, unlike Sunway ones which is just rectangular like that. Or M Vertica just look like a straight gigantic wall. No cemetery view or anything, just an oxidation pond, which I like because you have certainty. If you are high enough, your view will not be blocked in the future cause the pond is there. Facing North, there will be Tower B, and the land next to it will be built in the future as well. Facing South would be a better bet. Also, the A/C ledge is designed within the unit so it will not be so visible from outside - just look at Maxim Majestic just rows and rows of A/C compressors, look very ugly.

O2. Floor plans. Type D is your typical kitchen yard. Type B, C, E got an urban yard, which make use of the air con ledge. For B and E you can use it as additional store room for stuff you seldom use. Tool box, ladder, etc, stuff that won't be affected by heat and humidity. Type C is where it's get interesting, cause it is a washing machine area as well. You could put a front load washing machine, build a kitchen top and put a sink in and you have yourself a mini pantry that can serve as a wet kitchen. The "study" area in Type C's can also be extended as a kitchen as per the showroom, or you break the wall between the master room and make it a walk in wardrobe. So it is up to you what you want to do with it. For people who don't do heavy cooking, it makes sense. Type B is also quite interesting where the kitchen and dining area is next to the balcony. If you make a folding glass divider between the kitchen/dining and your living area, heavy cooking won't affect the rest of your home. But I think opinions may be split for Type B, maybe some ppl still prefer living area next to the balcony, and the kitchen next to the entrance to the unit. But Type B along with Type A has no opening to exterior from the kitchen, so no ventilation whatsoever.

I guess type D and E is the "safest" and traditional layout preferred by many. C gives you some flexibility and option. B is radical. A is just a standard studio lo apa lagi mau.

O3. Wah sia 30M pool a bit small right. I guess compared to every other similar projects, OK LOR. Got 3 badminton courts, I think sure packed everyday. 4 EV fast chargers. Assume averagely 30mins to charge 1 car. Between 7pm to 12am, 5 hours, can support a total of 40 cars. I think as a start it is ok lah because you don't need to charge everyday. But down the road definitely need more EV chargers.

Hope UEM Sunrise can make the covered walkway to MRT happen, then really bonus lo.

New poorperty all also high dense. Low dense all high price. Is like that lor. What to do.

Low density
Good location
Cheap

Choose 2 out of 3 criteria.

All DBKL fault la, set plot ratio then give exception. lol. Set for fun.

Depends if you like to hold your balls freely, or you like invisible hands holding your balls.

I like my balls to be free and unencumbered.

Premier, i guess you can call it that. But M Vertica is not as attractive among its peers in the same location. Whereas Connaughty One outshines Annex, Maxim Majestic & almost at par with Aster — again, if you value holding your own balls or not being the deciding factor. Annex really vomit, that lobby and the outlook. And walking to MRT is a risk of getting killed with cars going so fast at the corner in front of the MRT gate C slip road.

Location lor. There got MRT? And although that is also mature area, this is Hong Lok, Jiu Lai. Whack 1 corner reach legendary pasar malam. So really question of what you’re looking for.

This post has been edited by Jason: Oct 12 2023, 12:04 AM

I think because they did not appoint many third party agency to goreng it.

Plus many options along this stretch as well.

Not friendly for driving. What would you consider friendly for driving along this MRT line within walking distance to station as a requirement?

I feel CO is as optimal as it gets from Cheras direction. Drive thru the Cheras Sentral and turn left, off you go directly towards Mid Valley & PJ direction, or go straight to KL. Whereas the others that are further would need to jam to this turn off.

BH costs more right? And the MRT station further. My hope is that Cheras Sentral can be revived as a neighbourhood F&B mall, then it will address the convenience factor. Alas that is up to the owner of the mall.

Considering BH is North of the city and CO is South, personal preference comes into play as well. BH can go FRIM, CO can go Hulu Langat etc. Both mature location close to city center.

Mall revival is possible, if the management is realistic about it. Citta Mall is a prime example done right, when Empire Subang & Sunway Pyramid is just there.

Not to be a full fledged mall, but a neighbourhood mall people come for hair cut, F&B, groceries, child care, music class etc.

Ok didn’t know that. Then the chances of this salted fish to be revived is next to none. Super slim.

If a university move in and rent would be good.

Very good news. Any chance for Cons 1?

Kenot, bashers and agents for other projects will attack one. hahahaha. If build covered walkway, win liao. I believe developer is willing to build, but it is up to DBKL to approve or not.

Recently another project viral got crack and look like gonna sink... I feel confident won't happen to C1. This is my first new property purchase, I very scared abandon projects -- my relative and close friends kena. Or, new projects where the quality delivered is way different from showroom.

No choice lo, C1 didn't employ external agencies to sell, so no "hotness" or viral factor to it.

Not sure what is developer strategy, doesn’t look like they pushing much sales.

But never mind lah. UEM Sunrise, sure deliver one lah.

Sales agent kuat. If you appoint 1000 agents, 1% close rate also can sell 10 per month.

And more commission given the more kuat agents become. Many projects in the market now and UEM didn’t bother to appoint external agents. I guess they are not worried since they are solid.

Fully sold or not also they have no issues delivering the project. The same can’t be said about small developers.

End of the day even nonsense price in the middle of nowhere also got ppl buy. CO1 got MRT no need to worry.

What rooster you talking?

First you say unsold units not enough owners staying good luck collecting maintenance fees. Why need luck? Con9lan7firm UEM will pay for the maintenance fees for unsold units.

Clearly you don’t know how it works and just spewing shit.

Given the current sales trend, it’ll be more or less fully sold by VP.

Dover, Malaysia brand OEM from China?

Usually lift problem is EOL and no spare parts and support. It’s not a very high tech thing, but if no more parts then you’re forced to do modernization and replace the whole thing.

Which is just a scam to make you change lifts.

Boeing 747 is still in service today and the plane flew its first commercial flight in 1970, so that’s 55 years and counting.

Whereas lifts haven’t hit 20 years have to “modernize” the entire thing.

Lifts are not more complex than a 747.

You don’t maintain the lift
You can’t get permit to operate by DOSH.

If the lift EOL by manufacturer, nobody got parts, not even the manufacturer themselves after their inventory runs out.

TBH China brands might fare better if it’s a major big brand. If they EOL, many third party will manufacture the parts as long as there’s demand.

I manage to find vacuum hose for a National vacuum cleaner from China.

AVA was delayed? How come ya?
UEM Sunrise wo, Q2 2024 they reported RM1.2b in cash & bank balances.

Developers like UEM Sunrise, Sunway, Sime Darby, SP Setia, I will tutup mata say BBB if price is right. No need worry abandon.

More than enough cash lo… steady pom pi pi no worries. Plus 69% owned by Khazanah.

I think fast or slow, just up to their strategy and prioritization. With that kind of cash, they want it fast can easily do it.