Also, you wanna be at AR55 asap lol. AR45 and 55 are the sweet spots for glad/wt farms. Anything between is shit and the sentiment is shared with the rest of the community. Typically you wanna get out of AR50-54 quickly.

This post has been edited by MerryGoRound^2: Jun 27 2021, 01:58 AM

Rust R3 still. I'm suggesting Rust because in the events your main dps dies and your mob has a sliver of health to go. You can swap to Fischl and rely on machine gun to get the job done.

Elemental Mastery on Electro is wasted. If he has a Venti, I'd rather him keep that stringless for Venti or use it to refine an existing Stringless that he has.

And superconduct's base damage is quite low, which renders EM practically useless. You want the status effect more and not the reaction damage.

Running anything else but a Stringless on a support Venti is a no-brainer at this point. Unless you're a whale and by a massive stroke of luck, you got Elegy of the End while rolling on the wep banner.

Given the 1.6 EM buffs, you're better off just playing swirl reactions for sizable dps numbers. Part of the reason Venti is so valued to date is he offers loads of utility, cc and functional damage at C0 alone that most will advise you to save your whaling efforts on other characters. Unless the carefree bard is a passion project of yours.

Venti gets enough ER per ascension to fuel his caster playstyle. And slapping more ER to that is an overkill. Plus, his Ascension 5 passive Stormeye recharges 35-50% of your ult. Let's not forget that when you build EM Venti too, some of your substats will go to Energy Recharge. By the time your ult ends, it'll be up or near-up again. Mine does, and I'm running it with lv 1 vv artifacts. So there.

So no, Favonius Warbow is a poor suggestion for Venti by all means.

To add on to what I said, here's a video demonstrating how EM Venti now outdpses DPS Venti. Skip to 9:33 for a tl;dr if the whole thing bores you.



As for repositioning with Fischl's Oz... I find that the skill itself isn't that hard to utilize. Oz lasts for 15 seconds. The base cooldown on E is 25. Meaning when the whole thing ends, you only need to put up with 10 seconds of downtime. When pairing with Eula, you'll be fighting in Melee range. Meaning all mobs will converge on you. Stay in Oz's zone and let enemies come to you, and that should solve your positioning problems. By the time you need to reposition, the ability should be off cooldown.

Still... I recommend waiting to see if the new Inazuman artifacts will potentially replace some sp's current go-to artifacts. Feel free to farm for any artifacts now tho, since your resin isn't going to clear itself anyway, but go easy on the mora.

Sitting at 142 :3.

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You have Elegy of the End? That bow is beautiful <3.

Btw, here are the 4*s for next banner

I don't have Elegy with me so unfortunately, the math is beyond my knowledge. A quick read up on some of the guides show Elegy of the End is somewhat of a trap for Venti though. Since it shoehorns him into a melt comp. That being said, the weapon is designed with him in mind. I run my Venti with R2 Stringless, with spares for R5 :x. So far, I've only used the jester for CC purposes and nothing more. R5 Stringless used to be behind R5 Skyward Harp, which is considered Venti's BiS. With the EM buffs now, I think R5 Stringless should be at the top.

Kinda happy I saved myself the urge to roll for his C6

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Venti x Eula is an eh pairing. Since his ult juggles the mobs at a certain height that Eula's attacks will find it hard to reach them.

Elegy of the End isn't a total trap for sure. I think it boosts Venti's swirl damage, but it is a trap in that it shoehorns him into a Melt comp. Elegy's efficacy only shows when you hyperinvest into a carry. Goes well with Melt Ganyu nonetheless. I still think ER is overkill on Venti. He gets 138 ER from his own stats + ascension alone. Around there I guess. Plus his burst cost is 60. Which is pretty reasonable. Still... a 5* weapon always has more raw stats so...

I'm seriously waiting for a good Anemo to pair with Eula. Sucrose and Venti aren't it :/. I don't think Sayu will function like the two either. Probably a budget Jean with exploration perks.

And yes I think... the millennial buff stacks provided it doesn't provide the same stack.

This post has been edited by MerryGoRound^2: Jun 27 2021, 01:39 PM

I wasn't referring to you EM build doesn't discriminate between DPS or Support by the way, that's the beauty of it <3. But if your EM is high and you're running some really great VV artifacts, I'd understand why.

Here's a cursed image for you guys.

I really hate how so many high-level contents are locked behind Zhongli Supremacy. But god damn am I thankful I found a kind C4 ZL who can keep me alive lmfao.

I would love to help you but the carrying has to wait till tomorrow. The Zhongli I befriended is currently offline I can only supply damage carry through unga bunga numbers but survivability is an issue.

Actually... you guys can get si kutu rayau to help too. Since he has a R4 WGS with c6 Eula. Even with his abysmal crit rate, I doubt it'll be a problem. Next is just getting someone within the group who holds a C2 Zhongli at least and a well-built Ningguang to battery him and you guys are good to go.

At max difficulty, it took me 3 bursts to take the Maguu Kenkis down. Though in my case, it's because I'm running an R1 pines with a more balanced stat. For si kutu rayau, the number of burst needed to ohko the samurais should remain the same.

I also ran a cryo resonance + battery for myself while my friend used NG to battery the kind Zhongli who helped us. Still, we managed to complete it within its the time limit.

If kutu is around though, I might have to switch characters cause I don't think we can have 2 Eulas around and my main DPSes only comprise of Ganyu and Eula , and we'll have to do it 2 by 2 too LOL.

Ganyu is massively "nerfed" in this event, particularly with the Maguu Kenkis. I think she fares well against Geovishap and Oceanid but the time limit severely hampers her usefulness. Technically, if you just wanna get all the moras and freemogems available for the event, you just need get 4.2k - 4.5k average for each challenge. Still... sometimes it's always fun to push your beloved waifus/husbandos to the limits and see what they can accomplish actually.

For Maguu Kenkis, you wanna start off by going for the anemo samurai, as the cryo dude will come to you regardless. In a coordinated/co-op setting, it is crucial that your team hugs the anemo samurai so you bunch the two up together. Especially on max difficulty, you have to time your attacks so you can take the two down together. Failure to do so will result in one maguu kenki reviving and setting you back to square 1. If anyone else starts to aggro the cryo samurai and he starts going further away from the anemo one, that person needs to lead it back to the team.

Team comp wise, I think you'll have to run a shield bot at max difficulty. All the videos on YouTube showing people getting through the challenge with ease usually involves a Zhongli and Eula. So Zhongli is a must-have. And I speak from last night's experience as well. Alternatively, you can run a superconduct team which lowers the mobs' defense and allows someone like Eula to shred through them easily. But I personally prefer Cryo Resonance better.

If you're not running cryo resonance, then I guess the other alternative is to go for a Benett for the heals, or run a Fischl for the superconduct like I mentioned earlier. If your other teammate is doing a good job recharging whoever the C2 ZL is in your team, and that ZL player is doing a good job spamming and keeping the shields going, you shouldn't need any heals to begin with.

Eula is a godsent for high-level challenges like this. The issue with these mobs is they're hyperbuffed in defensive stats. Having that raw burst really helps.

On another note, I really love such events, as it really gets talks about meta going. inb4 someone says there is no meta for gacha games. You could say anyone gets the job done, but at the highest difficulty, you require a very specific team comp or characters to get through it with ease. I.e. Ningguang is highly demanded in this challenge because most people have her instead of Albedo, and she does a great job allowing ZL to battery off her. Meanwhile, someone like Ganyu who is usually topping the DPS charts is playing a more supportive role because in most cases, she won't deal enough damage with her charged shots to take down enemy bosses within the time limit.

I've also seen very underrated characters like Beidou, Fischl and Lisa being used , Beidou especially since her E allows to defend and counterattack simultaneously. Anemo characters are a little obsolete in this event sadly, but maybe that will change in the next few days. But it's always nice to see how the event makes way for "lesser-valued" characters. Again meta stands most effective tactic available, and not who does crazy damage and nothing else. A Bennett won't do a good job being a Geo battery to Zhongli as opposed to Ningguang, so don't let anyone tell you to "just play what you want" at max difficulty

This post has been edited by MerryGoRound^2: Jun 28 2021, 11:04 AM

I think it's a reminder to some of the ignorant here that meta does have a place in Genshin, limited event or not . The fact that you need a Zhongli to get you max scores to unlock some mora is in itself a meta

I'm slightly mad yet amused that you need ZL for practically any high-level content like Legends of the Vagabond Swords. Had the CN players not made a fuss about ZL at all, he wouldn't be such a staple in game now. Oh boy, I remember the backlash on his release.

6800 is super impressive. Hats off to you man.

I think I need to start getting Daddy Z on his next re-run. Even though I lowkey wish Mihoyo starts replacing the shield meta with a healing one

I'll agree to disagree . If someone takes offense to my opinion even though it wasn't specifically directed at them, then the fault lies with them.

Meta will exist whether you whale or not. When you do not have characters that you can whale to get over a certain challenge, you resort to the second best options i.e. f2p characters to get the job done .

I get where you're going with things, but the earlier discussion from tens of pages ago was instead conveyed in a tone along the lines of "I've played many gacha games, there is no meta." Which clearly isn't a meta talk. Although maths and the abundance of guides online have proven otherwise.

Point being, you are still playing a game that has a meta even if your principle in the game is F2P. F2P characters also make up a part of the meta.

There is also no shame in being a whale or F2P, I'm not sure why there always seems to be a dislike for either groups. The mindset "Meta does not apply here because we're F2P" is an outdated one. I.e. Fischl, Beidou & Lisa in my previous example. We're seeing how some free characters have their uses in a high-level content. Even Anemo MC is seeing use in Spiral Abyss 12. Isn't this meta? Being F2P doesn't exclude them from the conversation.

F2P players always have this mentality that whales have no "real life priorities" and choose to splurge on a game, thereby making their in-game achievements invalid, because they didn't "work as hard." Imo, the only thing that is preventing any talks of meta or downplaying the discussion are people with an inflated ego who can't accept that they are F2P because it goes against their spending principles. And in doing so, choose to neglect talks of meta entirely, although no one is harping on their F2P nature.

In short, you don't have to be a whale nor have crazy luck to talk about meta. Your 4*s, F2P peeps will do . You will probably have to fork out more effort to achieve the same results, but it isn't the same as saying "there no is meta if you're F2P." What more, even whalers need crazy good artifacts to brag, something that you absolutely cannot buy. Take a look at League of Legends. Completely F2P, yet still has meta. Hopefully that clears up the misconception.

Either way, I'm talking about meta because it is an interesting topic on its own. Not because I disagree with anyone here. I'd be more interested to hear the why(s) and how(s) if any, unfortunately some of us here lack that argument. Point being, this isn't the last time I'll talk about meta. The next time Yoimiya or Baal drops, I'll probably start looking at how those 2 affect metas again. Yes, even the release of one character can singlehandedly shifts things. The science of it is intriguing~

This post has been edited by MerryGoRound^2: Jun 28 2021, 02:27 PM

Also, prettiboi's gameplay trailer is hereee.



By the way folks, start saving your 5* artis. Go hoard them if you can.

When Inazuma comes around, we can exchange artis for other artis through a system known as Mystic Offering.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact_Lea...a_at_the_start/

This post has been edited by MerryGoRound^2: Jun 28 2021, 02:30 PM

No, certainly not you . Although I remember you from a long time back, back when you were still a mod? I don't remember you being an admin then, or at least the title wasn't displayed .

The whole talk about meta is not just meta, but that each and every character in the game is unique and nuanced. They all require some finesse to play. Granted, they're not super mechanically intensive, but some stuffs like animation canceling contribute to meta too, really.

Some folks here tread the ground of ignorance and refuse to learn the finer parts of the mechanics, instead adopting a stubborn take on games and then spreading false info to newcomers, which distorts and twists their perception of the game. That's sacrilege.

If you find yourself constantly losing your 50-50s and prefer using pities to get your desired character, a good way to build them up is to pre-roll on a character banner ahead of time. Roll up to your 60th count, stop, and save it until you see a character that you really want. At which point you would have accumulated another 90-120 rolls. I generally recommend rolling x10. The excitement and nerves go away very quickly, but the soft pity kicks in sooner that way.

Generally, you start seeing a 5* appear between your 70th - 80th roll. Hence why people encourage x10 pulls. Plus, for every x10 you make, you get a 4* and if that 4* is a duplicate or C6 already, you receive starglitters/stardusts in exchange. For every 100 pulls you make, you get 5-10 pulls from the conversions alone. And always make use of the store refresh for stardusts too. It's pointless using stardusts for anything else. Let alone starglitter. Sometimes, these things need be prepped in advance. I was already grinding for my Eula artifacts 3 weeks ahead of her banner

I recommend using the Gacha Simulator to mentally prep yourself too, since it gives you a gauge of the amount of rolls/money you need to spend. 1k USD = RM4000 ish. About 500 rolls there I guess.

Truth be told, if you wanna roll for 5* characters yet you don't wanna spend too much on the game, your best bet is getting a Welkin/Battle Pass. And that's not whaling. Welkin is a bang for your buck and you can consider it an investment.