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post Sep 1 2021, 11:18 PM

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Unsure if weapon stats are legit. Weapon is legit tho. I guess this may or may not confirm a Ganyu re-run tongue.gif

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post Sep 1 2021, 11:28 PM

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QUOTE(NightHeart @ Sep 1 2021, 11:19 PM)
Oh

How many have supported your posts in favor to post spoilers?
How many have supported my post against spoilers?
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I'll do you one better.

How likely do you think goldfries would implement a no-story spoiler ban in the thread when LYN functions more like a simple forum than Reddit/Discord.
On similar scale, how likely do you think think the ban would happen, and if so, on what ground? Because a user named NightHeart decided to riot because someone discussed spoilers openly? If that pander were to happen, what message does that send?

Supports or not, if you want a Reddit or Discord-like environment, go to those two instead. Better yet, stay away from the thread. There wasn't any no-story spoiler ban stated in the OP, and there still isn't. I'm more amused that your day is ruined just cause someone talked about a story spoiler rather innocently.
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post Sep 2 2021, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(Si kutu rayau @ Sep 1 2021, 11:56 PM)
What is this??
Ok, settle down. This thread ain't for these meaningless arguments. I've removed my post, so all calm down okay?  wink3.gif
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A supposed crit rate bow that runs on a 4-stack system that increases your attack by quite a substantial bit.
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post Sep 2 2021, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(altk1989 @ Sep 2 2021, 04:42 PM)
I kinda mind blown when i saw some people suggest ATK Cup instead of Electro Cup, usually ATK is the stat that get diminish return, but it might be wrong this time  hmm.gif
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Run ER Sands/ATK Goblet if you're pairing Grasscutter's Light with her.
Any other weapons, you go ATK sands/Electro Goblet.

ATK goblet outperforms Elecro Goblet by a slight margin in terms of dps output.
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post Sep 2 2021, 06:28 PM

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For those who have been fishing all day yesterday, does the fishing activity provide us with any freemogems? Directly or indirectly?
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post Sep 3 2021, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(xerofear @ Sep 3 2021, 01:04 PM)
Want to ask regarding weapon banner. Does the pity on that banner reset?
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Yes, sadly.
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post Sep 3 2021, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(blackankh @ Sep 3 2021, 02:25 PM)
Is Eula, Baal Diona Fischl a good team?
Seems like can Bench Bennett with Baal.
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If you have Eula with Baal, you can actually put Diona elsewhere, since Baal alone will be battery enough. You may even consider swapping Diona out for Rosaria for the cryo resonance and e-gen. What Rosaria lacks in healing, she easily makes it up with off-field damage and decent e-gen.

That being said, you're more than welcome to run Diona with Eula and Baal if you so wish. Since Diona provides heals and shield anyway. The last spot is pretty much flexible. You can stick Fischl in there for the electro resonance or more superconduct reactions, but that would be a hindrance in abyss, particularly when dealing with abyss lectors' elemental shields which require certain elements more than others. I personally run Sucrose with my Eula team in abyss for cc/mob bunching purposes. But the last slot is really to your preference.

As for Benny in a Eula-centric team comp, I don't run that combo. Most times, Eula doesn't need Benny to go with her, plus the fact that you have to prime certain elements before casting Benny's burst into Eula's does take up some precious time anyway. I've tried casting Bennett's burst into Eula's and most times, Bennett's burst dissipates before Eula's burst can complete hers. But really, it's just because Eula has so much raw damage with her that running another premier support that can be better utilized elsewhere is an overkill.

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post Sep 3 2021, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(blackankh @ Sep 3 2021, 03:15 PM)
Thanks for your input.
Unfortunately I do not have Rosario to switch Diona.
I will try using Sucrose with Eula then as now I have c4 Sucrose.
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If you don't have Rosaria, run Diona + Baal as your primary form of support then. As for the last slot, feel free to tinker around. I personally recommended Sucrose, but others might have other recommendations.

If you have a C2 Jean, that would be great too. Since her C2 boosts your atk spd, which means Eula will generate more stacks on her burst.
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post Sep 3 2021, 05:40 PM

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Woohooo! Finally blazed through the main storyline. rclxm9.gif

I gotta say tho, the writing for the Inazuman arc felt rather underwhelming. The pacing for part 2 was super rushed. But I guess it's better for Mihoyo to stick to that as opposed to muddling the story with more unnecessary themes.

Now it's back to fishing, and looking at the future drip marketing that comes our way. Might start considering C6 Baal instead of Kokomi in spite of all the aggressive prefarming I did for the latter hmm.gif
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post Sep 3 2021, 06:52 PM

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I don't think the crowd behind the Raiden fiasco comprehends one important thing - Mihoyo doesn't wanna create every new 5* to be a potential powercreep. After Liyue 3 got released, the subsequent release, barring Ayaka and Eula have had a slightly lower power curve that is alleviated via whaling.

That said, I don't get the whole talk about Raiden's damage. There is a modicum of truth that you need to C2 to play her DPS. But she is a sub dps/support first and foremost and a main dps second anyway. The whole complain about the Beidou synergy made me cackle, and the community is making fun of those who complained.

CN players by comparisons, have no issue with her, most of them are willing to whale and thus the complains are marginally smaller. Also Baal being perceived weak DOES kinda stems from the bias that electro is inherently a weak element, though it is not entirely true. It is lacking, but is the best utility wise with its ER gimmick and access to one of the game's strongest elements - Overload.

I think those complaining are just salty they can't achieve the same power level for an F2P level, but let's face it. It is a game that requires whaling. Put simply Baal at C0 is a very sufficient battery, and you can actually feel that from her test run too.

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post Sep 3 2021, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(blek @ Sep 3 2021, 07:10 PM)
i stuck at anti raiden training.
mobile genshin sux  sad.gif
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Eh it's fine. So long as you managed to defeat Baal in the end HAHAHAHA. The simulation was meant for a one-time event anyway tongue.gif.


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post Sep 3 2021, 07:33 PM

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Just to keep folks abreast of the leak situation. Patch 2.2 is heavily speculated to be a re-run patch, with focus on Childe rumored to get a third re-run to tie in to his in-game lore importance.

Childe's codename Ajax in the 11th Harbinger mythology is that he eventually commits suicide to preserve his name, or something along the lines. So the general consensus now is the story will focus on Scaramouche post-Inazuma Chapter 3 events. And Childe will pursue Scaramouche for the gnosis, resulting in the former getting defeated and choosing to commit suicide in an attempt to preserve his integrity.

This may also line up with the confirmed 5* Crit Rate bow the game is receiving next patch. Other news not included involve a Watatsumi Island series of weapons, Watatsumi Island is also slated to be an expansion to Inazuma, much like Dragonspine. We have a ton of events to coincide with Mid Autumn festival. Thoma is the only new dude in 2.2.

Also a new island called Tsurumi and new mobs + puzzles + mechanisms. And lastly, we have an Inazuman realm in development for Serenitea Pot.

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post Sep 3 2021, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(msacras @ Sep 3 2021, 08:13 PM)
Everything is still sensible, but Childe's 3rd rerun? puke.gif

This meme came across my mind the 1st moment

To MHY:
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QUOTE(blek @ Sep 3 2021, 08:26 PM)
again, mihoyo like to put their character to dead  doh.gif
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No need to spoiler tag Childe's death. After all, it is a theory. If someone cries foul on being spoiled again, it's probably their inability to discern between truth and lies.

Though... I guess you can say Childe's possible fate has been foreshadowed very, very early on to the point where it's considered public knowledge. Just gotta see if Mihoyo plays to that story.

There's a roguelike-event including Childe, Xinyan and Sara. So there. Gone are the rumors of Ganyu re-run for now. But we'll keep our eyes open for anything I guess.

One thing's for sure, patch 2.2 is a filler patch. At this point, I don't think we'll get Yae by year end too. Since there's Gorou, Itto, Ayato and a few other male characters. Been hearing EN community talking about how the CN female playerbase has been flaming Mihoyo for the lack of husbandos, so Mihoyo is doing everything they can to cater to that.
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post Sep 3 2021, 11:55 PM

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Oooooh, I'll be happy if this is true biggrin.gif.
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post Sep 4 2021, 12:59 AM

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For those who are still lost about building ER vs. ATK sands on Raiden followed by ATK vs. Electro% goblet, hopefully this clears some things up.

p/s: If you're confused by the whole thing, there's also the option to run ATK sands + Electro goblet, in which case you have higher damage but lower ER. If you can get super high ER from substats alone + you're running Grasscutter/Engulfing Lightning with Raiden, this shouldn't be a problem. Aim from 200-250% of ER, if you can make it to 300% from super godlike substats alone, which never happens, go for it too.

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post Sep 4 2021, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(laobeh @ Sep 4 2021, 02:06 AM)
Of course different reception. The mindsets between western and asian gamers are vastly different.

Western players mostly despise the idea of whaling on games, most of them looking down on players that spending real money on gacha games. They consider this as 'pay-to-win' and cheating.

Asian players have higher acceptance to 'pay-to-win' and love to flex their wealth. In Chinese community, F2P players are being called 'parasite' while whales are called 'big boss'. They see no problem for one to spend on gacha nor consider it as 'cheating'.

(Asian) otakus/gamers have cash but not many places to spend them. They pirate most digital stuffs, don't spend on cosmetics/fashion. So game companies will milk them with competitive system(MOBA, BR, FPS), dividing the community and make it toxic. Hates will then induce them to make purchases for better advantage when it comes to PVP. MHY said they doesn't want to go for this path, instead they found a way to induce the community to willingly paid for it. They focus on stories, characters(waifu husbando) & world-building etc. They called this 'Spend for the Love(为爱买单)', kek. Of course, this doesn't last long, to collect waifus, they only need to be C0. So they also started to introduce competitive systems to doctrine players to get high constellations.

So most Western players normally review a character based on C0+4* Weapon, while Chinese players reviewing with the most 'cost-efficient' build(Eg: Most Chinese TC base on C2+The Catch, less on C0).
Frankly speaking, C0 Baal is quite a bad battery, at least for current content. She provides 'unique' gameplay(ER Bot for whole party) , but sadly not very excel at it. And electro element is not helping here.

Gauging Baal's ER efficiency in the trial stage is not very accurate, since it drop additional elemental orbs there.

DPS wise, Baal C2+Signature Weapon is okay but not very spectacular at it. For me, C2 is a trap MHY trying to milk your primo resets. Currently Baal is so incomplete that even if you are so lucky by getting her to C2 with freemogems, next few banners gonna be characters that pair even better with Baal and induce you to draw them. For me Baal will always be a 100% support/utilities role even at high constellations. Fast forward 2 versions and a new Electro DPS char will outdps C2 Baal at C1  icon_idea.gif

To become a good DPS, you will need C6 Sara to make up with Baal's low ATK and CritDMG. But having 2 electro chars in the same team (and none of them is shielder/healer) is a very bad setup. You will have a very non-responsive team comp for future content. Normally a second char with same element in a team is to provide shield(Diona, Beidou), heal(Diona Bennet), recharge(Diona, Bennet, Albedo), +DMG(Bennet, Sara, Diona, Albedo, Beidou), -RES/-DEF(Beidou, Xingqiu, Klee, Ayaka, Zhongli). Sara being the second Electro in the team only provides DMG, no shield no heal no recharge no -RES-DEF. That's why some players are mad when learnt that their high constellation Beidou that have multiple roles doesn't work wells in Baal dream team.

Currently, a 'perfect' team that can perform well in almost every content consist of: 1x DPS, 1x Elemental Enabler, 1x Healer/Shielder/ER Bot/Buffer
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Existing Popular Teams
- Hutao(DPS) + Xingqiu(Enabler) + Zhongli(Shielder) + Flex
- Xiangling(DPS) +  Xingqiu/Childe(Enabler) + Bennet(Buffer+Healer+ER Bot) + Flex
- Ganyu(DPS) + Mona(Enabler+Healer) + Venti(CC+ER Bot) + Flex
- Keqing(DPS)  + Xingqiu(Enabler) + Bennet(Buffer+Healer) + Flex
- Eula(DPS) + Fischl(ER Bot+Enabler) + Diona(Healer+Shielder+ER Bot) + Flex
- Xiao(DPS) + Zhongli(Shielder) + Sucrose/Jean(Healer/ER Bot) + Flex
- Ayaka(DPS) + Xingqiu/Mona(Enabler/Buffer) + Diona(Healer+Shielder+ER Bot) + Flex

Last slot is flexible and this is very important. It can be Venti/Kazuha/Sucrose/Bennet/Mona for big burst damage, it can be archer to tackle flying enemies, or it can be different elements to break elemental shields. Every Abyss rotations you can just change the 4th slot and clear them in a single run at ease.

Bring Baal to the 4th slot and you will find that she does not really improve the team performance. None of them needs further energy recharge, they are all self-sufficient already.

For example in In Eula team, every second low constellation Baal on the field is DPS loss. C6 Fischl will outperform her because she doesn't need to on-field for 9 seconds. Fischl C6 is possible even for F2P/low-spender cause you get her first copy on the free event, then appears on Starglitter shop twice, on Featured Banner 4 times. By using Baal you trade DPS with comfy. Fischl needs constant repositioning while Baal doesn't need to. Other candidates on Eula Team consist of Diona and Bennet, this 2 doesn't benefit much from a dedicated ER bot like Baal.

Currently, Eula team is already almost fully optimized even without Baal. Not much that can improvise Eula teamcomp other than an Electro char that can provide -DEF or +ATKSPD in the future.

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Baal does not work very well with all current 5 star DPS chars. Right now almost all DPS requires long on-field time. Sharing precious on-field time to DPS Baal is a DPS lost. C4 Ayaka is almost perfect but too bad she's Cryo and needs freeze debuff badly. So for now Baal can only make use of ER hungry and long cooldown burst 4 stars like Xingqiu, Beidou & Xiangling.

That being said, not optimized does not mean it's bad. She will be irreplaceable for a long time just like the other 2 existing archons, especially at C6. I still prefer Overload and Electrocharge compares to perma-freeze and vaporise. I've been playing with Overload(Diluc+Fischl) and Electrocharge(Keqing+Fischl+Xingqiu) team comp since 1.0 Abyss. Hell, I still run Level 60 Keqing in floor 9 to 11 most of the time, electro is weak but fun  icon_idea.gif .

For my Baal, I'm running both Overload+Fireworks team comp. While it's not the best-optimized one it's very pleasant and refreshing to play with. I have high hopium that Baal will be a good 'investment' for future content (Yae, Cyno etc  notworthy.gif )
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I do agree that the pool of team comp that Raiden thrives in is rather niche and limited. But that's really more of a design philosophy and less so about the character herself. As mentioned before, I think Mihoyo is really clamping down on releasing every 5* to be a gamebreaking character. However, the teams that Raiden does fit in ends up performing really well, so not working with a larger roster of the current 5* DPS character is hardly an indication of her own strengths. Rather, it speaks of the design philosophy that is being applied into her case.

We shouldn't forget about shadow buffs too, i.e.: characters that benefit from the release of another character, like Eula in this case.

While Raiden's current state could be better, she is certainly far from pre-ZL buffs levels of outcry. The general consensus of Baal at C0 is she's solid, despite the complains. You also have to factor builds into the account. Having tested her out a couple more times during test run, I realized Mihoyo gave her a 311% ER build. And all that's C0. Sure, test runs may not be a good measure of a character's usefulness, but I'll take it in Raiden's case, because they build her 4pc EoSF, which is her best performing artifact. If it were in the case of Ayaka where the test run gave her 2pc Noblesse, then I would understand.

Raiden's case is simply an extreme end, where she is designed to benefit very, very niche team comps. If said team comps are already great at what they do, she propels them to greater heights. Inversely, if the team comps in discussion are subpar, including Raiden in there will marginally improve their performances, thus making them solid.

Her status as an Archon in-game doesn't provide her immunity to a balanced design and frankly, this has been the case with a number of releases anyway. I think people see Raiden and think an archon is going to be absolutely bonkers in gameplay, and that still holds true really. If you've been keeping up with the 2.1 beta news a month back, you would know that Mihoyo has been giving Raiden buffs week after week, whilst someone like Kokomi got the shorter end of the stick.

It's time we start shedding the notion that every archon release is going to be gamebreaking, or we'll set ourselves up for disappointment. The gamebreaking phase happened and only happened for Liyue 3, ZL and Venti. Ever since then, the subsequent release of 5*s in terms of power level have been more or less the same, and that really just shows how much Mihoyo wants to avoid creating another monster. And sadly, Baal happens to fall under the category of Mihoyo-not-wanting-to-create-another-monster. Still doesn't stop people from whaling on her tho. Baal's banner sales averaged around 9.8 mil on day 2, in comparison to ZL who averaged 4.5 mil or so on day 2.

And I foresee Mihoyo sticking to said design philosophy moving forward and it'll take awhile for another character to break Ganyu's mold. And then there's also Kokomi's release that is coming in a few weeks time, which may or may not prove to be the most controversial tongue.gif.


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post Sep 4 2021, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(pishang446 @ Sep 4 2021, 05:52 PM)
OMG. I GOT THIS TOO.

AHAHAHAAH.
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Please do not let this be real, please do not let this be real. I do not want C6 Benny KEK.

Also, Everlasting Moonglow with Jade-Wing :3
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QUOTE(Si kutu rayau @ Sep 7 2021, 12:12 PM)
Confirm C6 benny if you aim high C kokomi. laugh.gif
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My Benny C4 dy KEK.

But yes, most likely C6 Kokomi. So you carry me with your Braiden k biggrin.gif.

On another note, I personally don't think this is real, since Beidou and Rosaria had their appearances in late May and early June respectively. People are speculating Barbara and Noelle instead. Third character unsure. Definitely not Gorou or Thoma tho.

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QUOTE(Si kutu rayau @ Sep 7 2021, 01:36 PM)
Oh ya. Ma shogun will shock herself to death especially at beach area. Need kokomi jeh jeh help heal. laugh.gif
Maybe I can try atk/electro as well. hmm.gif because I dunno the grasscutter description error or what. Everytime I cast burst it instantly restore 50% of my energy. hmm.gif
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hmm.gif Why would Shogun self-electrocute to death if her ult grants her immunity to electrocharged? Unless you're that reckless to lead fights to electrocharged areas under non-burst conditions kekeke.

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