Where's that guy who constantly raves about Yoimiya's kansai-ben?

I forgot your name sorry ;-;

But man, I keep hearing Rin Tohsaka in Yoimiya, yes I know they're one and the same. This makes me wanna pull her just for her spunkiness

Imo, you're not missing out on much. And it doesn't matter if she's out yet or not.

Yoimiya's current problems are ICD and her single target-centric damage patterns.

Her icd or internal cooldowns is the most concerning one because it affects her ability to reliably land elemental reactions. There was one leaker within the Genshin community who thinks Yoimiya can hit 70k per auto on overloaded, but that's at hyperinvestment and I still think that won't happen.

This post has been edited by MerryGoRound^2: Aug 9 2021, 07:44 PM

Wew, now I can stop grinding Theater Mechanicus like a mad man. This round's mechanicus challenge feels like a snooze fest. The whole gimmick revolves around the drawstick system to create a more unique challenge. Little did oyohim realize that was the exact thing that took all the appeal away in a tower-defense game mode.

Poor Kokomi just can't seem to catch a break. Meanwhile, Raiden Ligma Baals keeps getting buffed in close beta server, though she received a "nerf" as of last night. I've been keeping myself up to date with the NGA thread, aka the CN community where one of the reputable leakers reside.

Here are some of the updates involved. Also, before I start, inb4 goldfries or someone else say "banner haven't release, don't judge yet." :: On a more serious note, please don't pull for Kokomi unless it's a waifu thing for you. Players' thoughts are unanimous across all servers.

TL;DR
Bad e-gen, horrible hydro application, subpar dps, healing recently got nerfed, split scaling that's hard to itemize unlike Albedo. Lack of a niche or identity. Entire community still asks what she is. A healer? Sub-dps or Main DPS? Lotsa confusion. A jack-of-all-trades I guess. I think Mihoyo wanted to design a healer-hyperscaling dps class at higher constellations but they dialed back on the values in fear that they might create another Ganyu in catalyst form.






Healing nerf, previous scaling was higher.



Kokomi C1 vfx. Final attack chain launches 2 fishes instead of one. C1 boosts her hydro damage by 30% based on her max hp.

Incredibly stupid design on her ult. Thematically resonant, but stoopid lel.

Meanwhile, here's Raiden with her continued buffs and one nerf.


This means she cannot gain resolve stacks as fast and won't be a good shieldbuster.



In a nutshell, Baal has been receiving slews and slews of buffs targeted at improving her DPS. But don't expect her to go toe-to-toe with Liyue 3 (Ganyu, Hutao, Xiao), Inazuma and Mondstadt 1 (Ayaka and Eula). She will however outdps Venti and Zhongli with her longer and selfish sub-dps window. You can still build her main dps at C2 fyi.

Why am I posting all this? It's fun to watch the western community go into meltdown. Grab a popcorn and watch the Genshin community flip massively for an hour or two . It's like what someone previously said, these western fans so loud and obnoxious when they like a character.

Neh. I think it was just me Had plans to C6 her and get her featured wep banner, because I was quite sold on her %max hp gimmick. Plus, who doesn't like a pretty mermaid.

Sadly, she's being compared to a Qiqi atm, and if you have Qiqi already, this girl is nigh useless. Constellations seem very fun tho.

I personally think the whole Baal/Kokomi patch is a trainwreck, because I've been keeping up with the leak reddit forum. Lotsa people are complaining that oyohim can't balance two characters at the same time. Yoimiya is currently very subpar and is highly complained.

The archon patch is usually the most hyped up patch, but the Inazuma one turned out to be a little disappointing. We'll see when 2.1's livestream happens next week. We'll get another close beta server update next Tuesday @6pm. Generally, once the livestream goes onto streaming channels, you can count on the changes to be locked in. Only Ayaka and Ganyu received heavy changes post-livestream and in the time leading to their release. And Mihoyo will only buffs them IF the beta testers think they're deserved to be buffed.

Kokomi is technically a dps, because her C1,4,6 improves her damage output. Meanwhile, her ascension stat is hydro damage. Generally speaking, with her being a catalyst user as well, this girl should be pretty good.

The problem with Kokomi currently is her damage is comparable to a C0 Keqing at C2. At C6, the community is associating her with C6 Noelle. If you hyperinvest into the character and get a 4* return, then that's a huge problem.

So if DPS isn't her best role, we then look at sub-dps. But her sub-dps is also pretty shit for a few reasons. Bad hydro application, bad energy generation and she has a selfish ult that requires her to be on-field for 10 seconds. All things considered, you have very little reason to run her sub dps.

Then let's look at healer/support roles. As either one, her elemental application is called to question again, as is her e-gen. Furthermore, her healing had just received a nerf, which doesn't make things look pretty for her.

DPS is quite frankly, the most suitable role for her so far until she gets a sizable buff elsewhere, because it gels the her entire kit very nicely. The problem with that is she needs constant uptime on her burst to be DPS-ing. With bad e-gen, you're not going to get that. And guess who's there to solve that problem? Ding ding ding, Baal. So if Oyohim is forcing you to pull for lady booba then this girl, then Oyohim is just being an a-hole.

Split scalings are also not helping her. E scales off ATK, ascension stat hydro, burst on %max hp, but her overall base state is low.

At lv 90, she's 11695, the lowest I think. Hutao who plays %max hp builds is sitting at 15k. Way too low.

This post has been edited by MerryGoRound^2: Aug 13 2021, 02:56 PM

Dowan. Baal macam x interesting anymore KEK.

Join the C6 Eula gang me and si kutu rayau benefon

There's C0 Baal <3.

Are we talking about the forsaken rift? The one that drains your stamina like no tomorrow? KEK

AHAHAHA. OMG. Sameeee! I dread grinding talent books from that domain

These HD images looking so damn pweety.

Also heads up to a Lantern Rite re-run ala Mid Autumn style. There's currently an uproar about Ganyu/Xiao/Hutao having reruns beginning late Sept to Dec. Can't confirm tho. I think a Ganyu re-run before Yae is quite possible... And insiders leak think it'll be awhile before we get to see a Kazuha/Baal/Albedo re-run after their banners have passed. So make of it however you will.

If you're on PS, I think you'll get her in October. For PC users, they'll get her a patch or 2 later me thinks.

Okay, that Baal demo is catching my attention again. HAHAHAHA.

Don't worry, you're not the only one who thinks the anniversary is underwhelming. Lots of players in the international community feel the same too. Most are choosing to pull for C0 Baal then skip straight to Yae.

Don't know if anyone stayed on the stream to watch this for the 3rd code last night, or some of you simply left and waited for your friend to pass you the last code but I find the Inazuman OST really well done.



Also that one particular flutist and taiko drummer is extremely cute

Please tell me you're not serious about attempting crit rate Kokomi. HAHAHA.

Hard to say because Kokomi's damage scales differently, %Max HP and all. If folks rage, it's simply because people think their investments are voided on someone like Childe. We are playing a PvE game after all and class designs tends to be fluid in that area. Healing isn't the reason people hate her, it's a lack of identity, and that's regardless of whether you can work her or not. A %Max HP damage dealer tends to scale harder than a traditional crit dps because of the exponential scalings. Kokomi's multipliers are sadly on the weak side.

As the community has mentioned, hydro application every 4 seconds is bad, coupled with horrible e-gen too. However way you try to iterate her, she's just massively bad and demands super specific team comps to work. Her only option in team comps now is an electrocharged team comp, since vape is expensive and her hydro application doesn't fit well into it. And her damage is tied to her ult which means pathetic damage during ult downtime.

Just a very confused character. Some folks still think she'll shine post-release the way Albedo did, but we'll see. People who say she gets hated on because she's a healer probably don't know their stuffs well. While healers aren't highly valued in Genshin due to shielding, in Kokomi's case, it's strictly a matter of people not knowing what she's meant to be. Plug n play users will tell she's a healer, simple as that kek.

For Kokomi to qualify as a sub dps, she needs to have her hydro application improved. To be a decent support, you need more e-gen, which is currently randomized from her E. To be a decent dps, her damage needs to be above Keqing and probably behind C6 Childe post-max investment. She has neither of these. Her healing is bonkers, but has been nerfed in favor of more base stats which equates to dps, but it is still weak. C6 Kokomi with a DPS build is getting compared to C6 Noelle.

This post has been edited by MerryGoRound^2: Aug 24 2021, 02:34 PM

Xingqiu is currently the game's best hydro applicator and an undisputed one at that. For Kokomi to rival him in that department, she needs to have better hydro application. Changing her hydro application on her E from 4 > 2s would have allowed her to vie for the spot. But I don't know why Mihoyo didn't go with that. With hydro application out of the picture, you then go to e-gen, which will benefit her ult recharge capabilities and buff her cooldowns too. Sadly... the beta server didn't do any of that. So bad application, bad e-gen, then last thing we look at is of course... damage. At C6, she's a Hydro Noelle. So there.

She actually has great potential, but I think Mihoyo pulled the clutch on balancing way too early, maybe because they're afraid they'll create a powercreep ala Ganyu style. There was a point in time where her E damage was wrongly translated as %Max HP scaling, that set the entire genshin community into a frenzy lol. So she went from Hydro Ganyu > Hydro Qiqi in a span of a full month.

The amount of people who vested interest in her have since steadily dropped too. The only changes she'll receive now are the ones leading up patch 2.1's drop next week. We can expect more leaks on Monday maybe, during the preload. If nothing is in there, then it's not going to change I think. There is also the possibility that Mihoyo will keep their eyes on her since they mentioned they're monitoring what creative builds players will create with her. The 5* weapon featured in her run is honestly a Staff of Homa catalyst version, but a little sad that it's too niche.

Going by what we know now, I can only surmise she's a jack of all trades. But if you want a versatile healer, you can look to Jean, whose element provides her with more versatility.

This post has been edited by MerryGoRound^2: Aug 24 2021, 02:36 PM

If you have no Ganyu, Aloy might work... until you get Ganyu lol.

Aloy's scalings are low but that is to be expected because she's free. To make up for all that subpar scaling for a 5*, she gets quite a stat boost from her passive.

Most players are thinking R5 Rust with her, since her Predator bow has no added effect on PC. Also a good shieldbuster with her E.