anyone with experience on the new amd laptops can share here?
any major issue?
Intel or AMD for new gaming laptop?, very confused now
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Feb 5 2021, 06:50 PM, updated 5y ago
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look at the new laptops now have intel and amd but someone told me amd ones are actually not as fast as the desktop ones and quite problematic
anyone with experience on the new amd laptops can share here? any major issue? |
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Feb 5 2021, 06:55 PM
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anyone saying intel is better than amd at this point of time is probably out of touch kuci_mayong, arslow, and 4 others liked this post
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Feb 5 2021, 08:50 PM
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Easily AMD.
Intel still stuck in their donkey ages of 14nm and quad cores (for i5, as im benching it according to price, if you want to compare i7 with ryzen7 then it’s 6 vs 8). For same budget (actually still cheaper), you can get Ryzen7 4800H, which have double the cores/threads while likely still consuming less powers (TSMC 7nm is fantastic here). ![]() ![]() This post has been edited by msacras: Feb 5 2021, 09:34 PM |
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Feb 5 2021, 08:55 PM
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Amd alot problem.. Yes
But amd is king now. |
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Feb 5 2021, 09:31 PM
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The mobile 5000-series had just been launched last month and various vendors have their SKUs listed already. If you're particular about wanting the best of the best, get those that updated with Zen3 architecture (similar to desktop). Few of the 5000-series still based on the olded Zen2 architecture and will probably fall short bout 10% in performance differences especially in single threaded task.
https://hexus.net/tech/news/cpu/147255-amd-...nne-processors/ But honestly, zen2 is no sloth either and readily better than most intels out there. This post has been edited by msacras: Feb 5 2021, 09:37 PM |
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Feb 5 2021, 10:04 PM
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QUOTE(Jaclow @ Feb 5 2021, 08:55 PM) Wouldn't say a lot but they have to make more stable drivers, especially in AMD+Nvidia laptops. Also Ryzen 5000 mobile (Zen 3) has caching issue pending AMD fix. Does this means AMD is bad? No, Intel Tiger Lake also has driver issues especially on iGPU side.Personally would pick AMD since it's more power efficient which is more important in smaller+power constraint form factor like laptops. Also at non gaming systems it offers 6 and 8 cores langstrasse liked this post
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Feb 5 2021, 10:05 PM
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Feb 5 2021, 10:18 PM
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Feb 7 2021, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Feb 5 2021, 10:04 PM) Wouldn't say a lot but they have to make more stable drivers, especially in AMD+Nvidia laptops. Also Ryzen 5000 mobile (Zen 3) has caching issue pending AMD fix. Does this means AMD is bad? No, Intel Tiger Lake also has driver issues especially on iGPU side. interesting, might need to wait a while before getting onePersonally would pick AMD since it's more power efficient which is more important in smaller+power constraint form factor like laptops. Also at non gaming systems it offers 6 and 8 cores |
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Feb 7 2021, 08:31 PM
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Feb 7 2021, 08:33 PM
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Feb 7 2021, 08:34 PM
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Feb 7 2021, 08:35 PM
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Feb 7 2021, 09:01 PM
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Feb 7 2021, 10:49 PM
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Feb 7 2021, 10:52 PM
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Feb 7 2021, 10:54 PM
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QUOTE(waghyu @ Feb 7 2021, 09:01 PM) Reality, no need backup. Real facepalm response here.Surface example, none using Amd at all. Macbook example, none using Amd at all. At this moment, value for money gaming laptop has turn tide from intel to amd. latest ces proved it. more manufacturer turn to amd. This post has been edited by frossonice: Feb 7 2021, 10:57 PM |
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Feb 7 2021, 11:05 PM
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Feb 7 2021, 11:09 PM
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Feb 9 2021, 02:28 PM
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QUOTE(waghyu @ Feb 7 2021, 11:09 PM) lol,my AMD laptop is basically more powerful then my office workstation and has decent battery life and thermal performance then the average intel mobile performance chips. if intel was so stable why the had to fire their last CEO and the hire a new one who will also admit intels failure to compete even with a lifestyle company. no one care about loyalty here. we just want the best for our money. you just simping for intel while we look for progress. |
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QUOTE(Nicksgame @ Feb 9 2021, 02:28 PM) lol, You office spec maybe so so only. Don't do mistake buying AMD.my AMD laptop is basically more powerful then my office workstation and has decent battery life and thermal performance then the average intel mobile performance chips. if intel was so stable why the had to fire their last CEO and the hire a new one who will also admit intels failure to compete even with a lifestyle company. no one care about loyalty here. we just want the best for our money. you just simping for intel while we look for progress. |
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Feb 11 2021, 09:55 AM
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Feb 13 2021, 12:51 AM
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Feb 13 2021, 05:54 AM
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QUOTE(frossonice @ Feb 7 2021, 10:54 PM) Real facepalm response here. QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Feb 7 2021, 11:05 PM) No point arguing with a fanboy. Orang baru keluar dari gua, that's why |
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Feb 13 2021, 06:44 PM
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If want safe go Intel. If you don't mind experimenting can try amd. 5000 mobile and 4000 mobile difference is 10% so don't need to wait. The one that need to wait is 3060 which is up to 40% more than 2060.
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Feb 13 2021, 08:25 PM
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Owning a USB C Thunderbolt docking. As I still wish to remain to use it.
Budget 5k +- Any 3k series gonna release shall keep track? |
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Feb 16 2021, 06:32 PM
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Feb 16 2021, 06:33 PM
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walao sudden dagao here
keep calm people we dont work for brands stop fighting for nothing lol |
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Feb 16 2021, 06:38 PM
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Feb 16 2021, 06:57 PM
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QUOTE(msacras @ Feb 5 2021, 08:50 PM) Easily AMD. must compare r7 against i7 ma.. apple to apple comparisonIntel still stuck in their donkey ages of 14nm and quad cores (for i5, as im benching it according to price, if you want to compare i7 with ryzen7 then it’s 6 vs 8). For same budget (actually still cheaper), you can get Ryzen7 4800H, which have double the cores/threads while likely still consuming less powers (TSMC 7nm is fantastic here). ![]() ![]() i5 is just office spec series. |
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Feb 16 2021, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Feb 16 2021, 06:57 PM) I5 cost more than R7I7 cost even more than that, yet still less cores than R7. The previous saving grace of Intel having better single thread performance also will soon change after 5th gen Ryzen reach the market. Ryzen 5th gen can even obsolete Intel’s desktop chips This post has been edited by msacras: Feb 16 2021, 08:02 PM |
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Feb 17 2021, 12:33 AM
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QUOTE(msacras @ Feb 5 2021, 08:50 PM) Easily AMD. Intel still stuck in their donkey ages of 14nm and quad cores (for i5, as im benching it according to price, if you want to compare i7 with ryzen7 then it’s 6 vs 8). For same budget (actually still cheaper), you can get Ryzen7 4800H, which have double the cores/threads while likely still consuming less powers (TSMC 7nm is fantastic here). ![]() ![]() can share which lenovo model are these ? specs looking good |
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Feb 17 2021, 09:16 AM
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Feb 17 2021, 10:11 AM
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Feb 17 2021, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE(xenith @ Feb 17 2021, 10:11 AM) Can’t deny thatBut in “value for money” aspects, the value is really really hard to beat in foreseeable future (Ryzen5/7 and GTX1650 laptop for under RM2.5k? Asus/Acer likely have a shock reading about that too Zen3 have substantial improvement in single core performance. Though I expect newer gen likely means higher price too, as TSMC is overloaded with chip orders and had increased its price to maintain the demand and profit. Thus AMD likely will have to increase their price too. Back then when I bought my 3rd gen Ryzen5 lappy, AMD didn’t break through the mobile computer market yet and their Ryzen5/7 laptops go as cheap as sub RM1.5k-2k as compared to Intel i3 or i5 which easily start above RM2k. With 4th gen Ryzen turned the tide against Intel, Ryzen devices no longer start at under RM2k (though still far more competitive as compared to Intel). This post has been edited by msacras: Feb 17 2021, 10:36 AM |
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