apa khabar /ktard,

selepas membaca bebenang netflix, maka saya pun terhibur untuk membuka bebenang seperti ini. saya perasan bahawa nya email negara lain beza betul dengan email kita bila mereka berbual bersama mereka sendiri. mari kita kumpul data data.

dari pengalaman pendek saya, email dari negara lain sebagai ini;

malaysia - email guna english sesama rakan.
sg - email guna english sesama rakan.
thai - email guna thai sesama rakan.
vietnam - email guna vietnam sesama rakan.
jepun - email guna jepun sesama rakan.
germany - email guna german sesama rakan.
indonesia - email guna indo sesama rakan.
korea - email guna korea bersama rakan.
oman - email guna english sesama rakan.
bangladesh - email guna english sesama rakan.
india - email guna english sesama rakan.



apa kata /ktard?

potential tered

I prefer email as a way to communicate sesama rakan or business inquiries... these days you email India / China.. their email request you to contact them through What app, Wicet.

tapi bahasa apakah yang anda guna dalam email tersebut ya?

saya suka berlanscaping hari hari

I'm not sure about oman. But the 4 countries in bold has something in common: their people speak all kinds of mother tongue. Sg and malaysia we already know. bangladesh and india have hundreds of different mother tongues, and they don't really like to use their official language

saya pernah ber projek di middle east. hampir semua mengguna kan english sebagai email sesama mereka.

mengapa begitu.

not sure about middle east, do they have lots of tribes? I know pakistan also use english because of their tribal language issues

Ayam guna bahasa Engrand sebab semua email bcc kepada bos omputeh. Takut itu gwailo tak faham. Tambahan lagi, mampus ayam tak tahu nak cakap compound bevel groove atau excess penetration dalam bahasa kebangsaan kita.

tidak tahu pula saya.

saya tahu excess penetration adalah ekses penetrasi.

Because short sweet & simple?

Noted vs Sekian ambil maklum.

Email first as proof of interaction and then proceed thru WeChat or watsapp.

Last time when I was in gov, watsapp conversation are not legally bounded if I am not mistaken.

You get reply ...one minute let me check..and u wait 1 week and that to them is 1 minute

Bajingan banget ini anakkk..
Gue akan menceritakan semua kejahatan lo sama omah Bertah

malaysia - email guna engrish sesama rakan.

Fixed

Dek ku isseng. Iyak makbicara gapo

Insap liao

lol apa benda

I tak pernah guna email sesama rakan

chat dalam bahasa rojak meleysia la

email hanya urusan kerja

have to use english as I work for angmoh company

Saya juga telah meneliti dan mengalisa senarai-senarai yang ditampilkan pembuka bebenang. Menurut dapatan saya negara yang pernah dijajah pihak Inggeris lebih cenderung menggunakan bahasa Inggeris untuk urusan e-mel rasmi.

Sini saya senarai lengkap negara-negara yang menjadi ahli atau pernah menjadi ahli KekayaanSama (Commonwealth)

Verdict: Those who can't use English obviously wasn't paying attention during Primary school.

Oooo....panjenengan saget ngangge boso bugis tho?

wah2...

This

Iyek puang..macca kak makbicara ogik sikit2 ja

Awwe bella racing maneng tho ktard

English is a world language. Learn it. Very useful when travelling.

i think depends on your social group

like the one u mention "sesama rakan", bagi rakan sekerja utk komunikasi melalui online, ada social group yg pakai BM, ada yg pakai English, tak semestinya English, really depends on your social group

kalo utk Netflix tu, mungkin kebanyakannya semua filem Netflix tuh filem English, so I assuming most of their viewers/customers faham English kut, tu sebab dia pakai English...

kalo rakan awak semua paham BM & tak berapa faham English, masa tulah social group tu pakai BM

maksud saya rakan sekerja.

tahu kah anda negara yang saya senarai kan juga email mengguna kan bahasa mereka bila mereka email rakan sekerja sesama bangsa juga walaupun berkerja untuk syarikat orang putih?

maksud rakan saya ialah rakan sekerja.

walaupun rakan sekerja sesama malaysian, saya masih email mereka dalam english.

mengapa?

Takan megunakan bahsa vicet rempit hingusan.

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maksud nya negara lain tidak pandai?


maksud nya negara lain tidak pandai?

Betul, saya tidak faham kenapa. Pengalaman bekerja dia company mat saleg, german guna german, even auto email ada inggeris dan german, czech bercakap dan berbual bahasa czech, india dalam bahasa mereka, hong kong pun begitu.

Malaysia? Saya hantar perbualan bahasa melayu, mereka reply bahasa inggeris.

tu kena tanya awak sendiri nape

mungkin sebab
- you assume everyone in your social group paham English
- because you want to standardise in one language so that your other coworkers can also understand, just incase email needed to be forwarded to boss or other coworkers or even clients
- avoiding miscommunications, company's documents, instructions, manuals, etc are in English, easier to communicate in English, again depends your social group
- lain la cerita kalo keja kat gomen, mostly are in BM oredi, even email & company's documents.

again depends your social group

Easier la
BM/English i use both

This post has been edited by and85rew: Jan 31 2021, 12:27 PM

well kinda true..even betwen malays also speak england masa meeting padahal semua makan budu cencalok tempoyak

Lu x sukak lu keluar
Owai-

Negara lain also used English la. Pilots and ship captains too. Where got pilots from Japan spoke Japanese to US airport towers? The plane sure crash la.

It is a world language. Learn it la. Won't die one. After learning, u finally can scold any idiot in English or campur both for power.

tapi kuli syarikat orang putih di jepun cakap jepun dengan kuli syarikat orang putih di jepun.

mengapa kuli malaysia cakap english dengan kuli malaysia?

tidak. sudah menjadi standard email dalam english di malaysia. saya sudah bekerja dengan 3 mnc, 2 company lelaki china (chinaman), semua nya mahu mengguna kan english dalam email.

mengapa negara lain tidak mahu menggunakan english?

Bruneian use england...no plotek2 like oren kito

tapi mengapa?

See. Got people don't understand forum rules. This is an English forum.

Engrand failed.



RedShirt: Apa tu? Plotek!!!

This post has been edited by NB01: Jan 31 2021, 02:16 PM

maaf saya dah terbiasa dengan budaya german, cakap bahasa nasional.

Not sure what you say. We no speaking other language here.

vietnam email jepun = guna english
jepun email korea = guna english
malaysia email jepun = guna english
korea email china = guna english
indo email malaysia = guna english

banyak lagi combinasi
apa kata viole

[QUOTE]

itu perasaan biasa (common sense).

tapi mengapa vietnam email vietnam guna vietnam, malaysia email malaysia guna english?

[quote=viole,Jan 31 2021, 02:24 PM]
[QUOTE]

itu perasaan biasa (common sense).

tapi mengapa vietnam email vietnam guna vietnam, malaysia email malaysia guna english?

[/quote]

sebab malaysia adalah negara berbilang kaum.
singapore negara berbilang kaum.
vietnam, jepun, german negara satu kaum.
logik tak?

saya suka me..lan..cap... hari hari

logik juga sebegitu. jadi mengapa arab mengguna kan english?

This post has been edited by viole: Jan 31 2021, 02:33 PM

my experience is, those yang ada good command in English language, prefers to use it.

let's put it this way, english is not a superior language, rather a universal language. just like a traffic light; red means stop, green means go. everyone understands it.

Janji can communicate...else not their problem...dari kau saja bah.

Also, these countries were once ruled by British.

Jika sesama rakan-rakan, saya guna manglish. Jika dalam /k, lagi teruk versi manglish tersebut.

Jika hal-hal kerja ofisial, maka english betul harus digunakan.

omputeh kolonist

indon ruled by dutch, so what's your point?

I was adding commenting to the 4 countries you bolded. Just adding more input to your observation.
The bolded 4 Malaysia, singapore, India, and Bangladesh.

correlation is not causation

IMO
1.Bahasa kita tak berkembang, ambik perkataan Safety, kalau BM bermaksud keselamatan. Security, kalau BM maksud keselamatan jgk. Kalau indo wkwk safety= keselamatan, security= keamanan.
So kalau in BM Safety kat site yg gaji 8k sebulan sama je maksud dengan pak guard sekolah.

2. Banyak product code/ nama dari negara lain dalam BI. Klu through professional e-mail tak sesuai nak campur bahasa dan complicated klu guna "" better just english all.

I use hokkien knnbccblj

Actually British colonozition is really the cause of wide English language adaptation in these and other commonwealth countries.

You can check it out.

Google "why English is widely used /spoken in Bangladesh / india/ other commonwealth countries.

Phillipines? Tengok kebanyakan social influencer phillipines gunakan bahasa english, tapi taktau mereka guna bahasa apa sesama rakan.

i can also ask the same: why dutch is not used in indonesia

Sebab untuk record, senang orang lain faham. Takkan lah cc orang lain guna bahasa urdu.. 😅😅😅

Because of the colonial master itself. All colonial master plundered its terroriries, but among the big power, Portugal, Dutch, Spanish, and British., British is the one that leave behind infrastructure, judicial, education, and so on. Had British did not come to Malaya after Dutch, we would have a very different history. A lot of our current systems are based on British system.

Dutch not so much on leaving these things.

And I in many parts of the world, Spanish is the worst. Besides plundering, they conducted genocide.

Ok. But still doesn't explain TS question: why use english in email

Because of what you said Bro. There are many languages. And English is sort of the common languages.

I was just adding to your comment that the origin of the unifying language which is English in the 4 countries are British empire.

Cheers.

yea i understand, but colonization is so long ago. Now average working age should be 30-40, these people under british rule meh? Also our education system use BM (only a short period uses english for science and math only), so why not use BM in emails?

How old are you? Why are you typing in English?

yea, that's the question, why?

But i'm pretty sure that why I'm typing in english is definitely not due to my colonial masters

This post has been edited by koja6049: Jan 31 2021, 06:12 PM

Sila baca more about your own history baru we sembang next time.

dunno what workplace conversation language has to do with history. jangan bodoh la

Lols. This is the best you can do?

how about you? care to tell how our great colonial masters force use to use english in emails?

I already told you enough. Just that I find your reply very low level. Malas layan.

Nobody said anything about forcing. Lols.

looks like you can't even comprehend TS question. Want to bring jn british colonial masters pulak

jadi german japanese korean vietnam thai tidak peduli orang lain faham atau tidak?

what do you mean formal email? in fact, formal email between my german colleagues among them still use german.

eh maaf ter balas dalam english pula.

Proud countries respect and honor their own languages. They don't ride on other people's success and glorify the culture of others.

They have one thing called "identity".

Gutten morgen heir viole

so we same like bangla pakistan middle east use english?

kita memalu kan malaysia?

moin.

Your country needs to command respect and recognition first from the world before you can call yourself proud of your own identity.

Germany, Japan, France, China or South Korea. Ask anyone in the world in some foreign country they probably know where it is by the name.

You ask some random Eastern European, Latin American or African where is Malaysia?

jadi betul yang kita memalu kan malaysia.

In bahasa

Pelayan itu memberi pelanggannya layanan cucuk dan main dengan menggunakan batang gembira jenis keras atau lembut. Batang gembira itu akan dimasukkan ke dalam lubang pelanggan.


Translate in English

That server gives a plug and play service to the client using either hardware or software joystick.
That joystick goes into the port of the client.


I challenge anyone can translate to good bahasa.

Just my 2 cent...

You got plenty of traitors in Malaysia especially helangs who in own country try to be over pious in front of their own kind but in front of others in foreign countries bad mouth about Malaysia like no tomorrow just to buy people's sympathy.

Pengkianats everywhere.

everyone using english

but office instant messages however

sometimes sees local language

i do speaks malay to my chinese kolik, but only for non-informative chat

Yipikayay, pengongkek ibu

ya mengapa?

mengapa kita kena berpura bercakap dalam bahasa lain ?

pada aku bukan pretend

cuma dah terbiasa, serta biasakan diri

tapi nowadays aku main campur je cakap...janji betul betul selesa

kalau dulu memang english penuh

Who communicate with email "sesama rakan."?

rakan sekerja maksud saya.

So u mean business emails. Then it's because English is the unofficial business language in this country.

Im in the Finance n Tech sector.. Definitely easier to use English.

Sesama rakan bukan kerja related, we use rojak.

but why? who set this rules that unofficial business language is english?

why business language in my is english but its thai, vietnam, german, russian, chinese, japan, korean in their respective countries?