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post Apr 28 2021, 09:09 PM

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Hi, planning to increase my medical nsurance coverage as currently my old plan only has 50k annual limit. My agent advised to directly buy a new policy as he calculated it would be more worth compared to upgrade as will be cheaper and more comprehensive coverage. However, I will need to maintain the old policy for one year and at the same time pay for the new policy. It doesn't sound fair to existing customer. Any idea how can we go about this?
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post Apr 28 2021, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Apr 28 2021, 09:13 PM)
Which company are you with and the plan name?
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Prudential from PruFlexi Med > Prumillion Med
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post Apr 29 2021, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(roystevenung @ Apr 29 2021, 12:33 AM)
Yes it can be done and it is also advisable to upgrade it on the same policy (if there are no major health complications at the time of upgrade).

You can even upgrade the life insurance/critical illness/accident (if it is insufficient with your current needs) on the same policy.

There is no 4 months Waiting Period as any claims 30 days after you done the upgrade, it is still claimable from the PruFlexi Med. If after 30 days, the claim will be under the PruMillion Med.

Be aware that starting a new policy means paying the agent commission (in full for 6 years all over again). The allocation rate for the funds investment also restarts from 60% onwards instead of 100% (if your old policy is > 7 years).

Cancelling an existing policy just to start a new one is never beneficial to the client but brings many 'extra' benefit to the agent.
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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Apr 29 2021, 01:16 AM)
Hi sching, new policy is cheaper reason being the sustainability term is shorter than your current plan. If agent did explain this to you, then at least you are aware why it is "more worth" buying a new policy.

But like roystevenung mentioned, if can upgrade, then just upgrade in the existing plan.
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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Apr 29 2021, 08:34 AM)
I've just confirmed with my prudential officer *do take note it's public holiday today*

The policy can be upgraded.

As Roy pointed out, by upgrading you don't have to worry about the waiting period as anything happens, it'll still fall back to your current existing policy benefits.

However, I do believe your agent wanted to do the new policy and replace the old policy because he wants to earn the 6 years commission again.

But at your loss since you'll be paying 2 policies premium which you are also asked to hold 2 policies at the same time effectively doubling your cost.

I would say it's not ethical to do so but then again maybe you can reprimand your agent for advising you to do such action.
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Thanks guys for your insights and helping to check even on a public holiday notworthy.gif

The reason my agent mentioned is that it would cost higher for an upgrade compared to getting a new policy and also the old policy did not allow for newer features like comprehensive CI. The upgrade for medical part makes the final premium higher compared to new policy. Thus, he suggested a new policy. So does that mean I have to choose between a more expensive upgrade or a direct new policy (along with the cost of maintaining 2 policies and paying commission again for 6 years)? My old policy is already >7 years.

This post has been edited by sching: Apr 29 2021, 02:27 PM
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post Apr 29 2021, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Apr 29 2021, 03:05 PM)
☺️ You'll have to do your own homework then to see what's best for yourself
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Thanks. This is the first time I am doing so much homework on my insurance. Still a lot to learn.

QUOTE(roystevenung @ Apr 29 2021, 04:15 PM)
Not sure what you are talking about.

If the medical card is able to be upgrade, it means the policy can even add on Total Multi Crisis Cover (TMCC), aka comprehensive CI.

Perhaps get your agent to run the upgrade in front of you?
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Yeah, this is what exactly my agent told me. Maybe what he meant was it is possible to upgrade but then the upgrade would cost more than the new policy. Perhaps I should check again with him in details on the upgrade. hmm.gif

Also, I took a look at my insurance schedule/table and noted that at the end of policy year 30, I would have zero value in my cash surrender account (due to increasing insurance charges). Does it mean that on year 31 onwards, I will need to pay for a higher premium? Is it normal for all policy or is it only for my specific plan? Sorry for the noob questions as I am still learning.

Thanks.
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post Apr 29 2021, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Apr 29 2021, 07:00 PM)
It's applicable to investment link policies as your policy will incur a continuous increasing cost of insurance charges as you get older.

Thus you can either do a top up on your regular premium or a single premium top up in order to prolong your policy sustainability.

Policies with medical benefit will have a tendency to get premium repricing due to the high medical inflation in Malaysia that will mostly affect the cost of insurance within the Hospitalization benefit.
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I see

QUOTE(ckdenion @ Apr 29 2021, 09:12 PM)
sching, the upgrade might cost more premium compared to buying a new plan (might ya), reason being is because your current plan default coverage term is up to 99 years old. So when you wanna do upgrade, the premium factored in must sustain until 99 (not sure whether you can opt to lower down premium with lower sustainability because Great Eastern can). For new policy, it is cheaper likely because agent quote you with lower coverage term... say up to age 70 years old? so if can and if you dont mind, you can share a lil bit more details what the new plan is and what it has.

yes you need to pay higher premium to let the policy sustain longer.

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My new plan is until age 70. Annual limit 1.38m with no lifetime limit. Death/TPD 100k, CI 160 types 50k (up to 4 times claim)
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post Feb 13 2022, 06:38 PM

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Just for knowledge, is it better to split out 2 different policies - one for life and another for medical? Or better to have in one policy?
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post Feb 22 2022, 03:30 PM

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Wondering any non muslims taking takaful plans - what are the benefits compared to conventional plans?
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post Feb 22 2022, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Feb 22 2022, 05:10 PM)
Some plans may differ in benefit but the main difference is really on the nomination part.
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Oh, not really aware on what's the difference on the nomination part. Care to explain more? Thanks.

 

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