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ornehx
post Aug 28 2025, 05:10 PM

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Anyone with experience with Kaotim product, specifically Kaotim Medikad and Kaotim Legasi?

Looking for standalone, agentless, online type. I check Fi-Life but seems Legasi is much cheaper. Kaotim is by myTakaful, should be ok?
ornehx
post Sep 6 2025, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(JIUHWEI @ Sep 5 2025, 03:39 PM)
Dah beli?
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Sudah beli.
In fact I bought both Medikad and Legasi.

Made up my mind after calling up and ask about their product, and they gave me proper explaination. While when I Whatsapp Fi-Select to ask, they replied after half a day and one liner answer totally like chill casual reply.
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post Sep 18 2025, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(jsnhoh @ Sep 18 2025, 01:12 PM)
Just bot last month, don't know good or not, but price seem cheap compared to my current policy ..
Need to wait for 120 days in order to get the full coverage.
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I eventually bought it too (both medikad and legasi). Same same now waiting for cooling period to be over before I surrender my ILP
ornehx
post Sep 19 2025, 07:26 AM

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QUOTE(cms @ Sep 19 2025, 06:39 AM)
But the Kaotim quote goes till 66 only thats y its so cheap right? Unlikely to have payout and with no cash value.
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As I too bought tis, let me reason out and limit and non cash value.
It's a pure protection product, no savings or investment in it.
It's a protection for the surviving dependants in case something happened to the insured.
Thus, normally no need to protect after certain age when no longer salaried, kids have grown up, all loan have already paid up, no more commitments. At that point it's just a waste.
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post Sep 22 2025, 08:18 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Sep 19 2025, 07:32 AM)
With coverage just till 66 yrs old, .... can it be used in place of mlta / mrta for housing loan that ends at 70 yrs old ?

Added, ...
If one had been paying let's say RM3k pa for life insurance that covers assuming 1 million till 66 yrs old.
With life expectancy of 85/90, that is 20/25 yrs more.
3k X 20/25 yrs = RM60/75k payment
With this 60/75k investment that can reaps 1 million to be passed on as legacy, .....is it worthwhile to get one that covers till 85/90 instead of 66 as the chances of payout at 66 is much lesser than 85/90?

I think it is still worth it even if it costed another 100k investment.
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Don't think u can find 3k pa life for 1mil until 85/90yrs old. The insurance company for sure will lose. Even for example 5k pa for 100 years is 500k, but they surely need pay out 1mil. For each cust they will lose 0.5mil.

ornehx
post Sep 22 2025, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Sep 22 2025, 11:11 AM)
If you do the maths as per post 7406, ...
I think they will make more profits with your yearly premium than the accumulated amount of premium collected over the years.

Ex. In post 7407...
1800 pa X 30 yrs = 54000
If die before 30 yrs gets 1 million
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So I guess the best strategy is Buy Term (minimal) and Invest the Difference (BTID) right?
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post Sep 25 2025, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(JIUHWEI @ Sep 25 2025, 02:08 PM)
How long of a Term policy?
At each expiry of the contract, you'll be subject to underwriting again (should you want to renew lah).

Of course, everyone would like to grow old with good health, good family ties, good cheer, and a hefty pocket.
Just take a look around, is that really the case?

Forget the concepts, forget the marketing mumbojumbos.
Let's take a good look at the statistics, and then consider:

Now that I have the option to decide the outcome, is it worth the premiums?

I'm sure everyone here has their own concerns and circumstances.
And it is only natural that some here are more disciplined than others and/or have more time to keep track on when is which policy expiring, is it paid, etc.
So the cost on the cheapest of the cheap insurance coverages, is your time and attention to be on top of things.
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Specifically on Life Insurance. Buy term long enough until I am free of life's commitments, then no need care about renewal.

 

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