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kawa_e
post Jun 28 2021, 08:59 PM

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Is there a way to change insurance agent ?
I just started paying for 1 year and half.

Thnx in advance
kawa_e
post Jun 28 2021, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jun 28 2021, 09:02 PM)
if you change agent,...the rest of the commission for the existing policy will still goes to him/her?

what insurance company is that?...maybe check their website for info,...i am sure can request for change of agent servicing you
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Sure not to the insurance agent. The insurance agent is rude and has bad after service.

Allianz. I'm just asking first.
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post Jun 28 2021, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Jun 28 2021, 09:25 PM)
Allianz is easy, just request for the change and sign off a form.

Commission will remain with the original agent.
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What if commission transfer to other agent too ? Can't do that?
Sorry, I have no knowledge with insurance
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post Jun 28 2021, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Jun 28 2021, 09:38 PM)
Nope, whoever is taking over or you wishing to appoint will get RM0 / zero / nothing.
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Then is my bad for signing up with this arrogant agent.
Quite unfair really. Bad agents still be rewarded
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post Jun 28 2021, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Jun 28 2021, 09:46 PM)
nod.gif  now you can spend your time to find a better agent if you think your current agent can longer give you the right advise / someone who you don't want to engage for advise.
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I did not meet face to face with this agent. Recommended by my sister. I signed within 1 week. This is the wrong move I made. Hasty and desperate at that time. Now when it comes after service during pandemic he is very rude.

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post Jun 28 2021, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jun 28 2021, 09:55 PM)
if you really don't like him/her, and if the thought of him/her keeps getting commission for the next few years makes you boils and if the about 80% amount you had paid is easily "write off",....can try to cancel the policy....
but i think i heard, there is a "waiting" period if you want to buy from another agent of that same company so that, that "BAD" agent will not get anymore.
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My salary is being deducted half now due to lockdown. So the premium is taking a chunk out of my salary per month (B40 lowest tier)
Cutting off the policy of 1 year half might help ? I don't know. I don't like that agent. I know there is no deferment in paying premium now.

To answer lifebalance, I was only asking but his response was no choice etc etc, if I go to hospital who will pay those sort of thing and asked me to stop talking about my job with what I paid for insurance.

Well yeah, maybe I am the hot headed here.
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post Jun 28 2021, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Jun 28 2021, 10:14 PM)
not to say you are hot headed, maybe his answer cause you to react like that. so don't blame yourself here. there is a few things you can do when your salary is cut. perhaps let us know

1. when is your policy bought (exact date)?
2. how much are you paying now (monthly/yearly etc.)?
3. can you list down your benefits?
4. any liabilities do you have now?
5. your age?

perhaps we can start off here so a few can guide and give you an idea what you can do (at least get a clear picture first before dealing with the agent because i think most importantly there is people to guide you to solve your prob first).
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Thnx Ck, unfortunately I can only PM. Providing info here is too risky. I don't know if the agent is here. Whenever problem arises, he would only talk to my sister not me.
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post Jun 28 2021, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Jun 28 2021, 10:21 PM)
Well I don’t know your background personally so I won’t be able to see the full picture. From the look of it you are frustrated over your agent’s lack of concern and you’re not happy about it.

And right now you’re telling me a different concern which your policy is taking a chunk out of your daily expenses.

Perhaps you might want to review your policy and your personal finances in view with the change of income?
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Yes my concern arised because of my salary deduction. Yes you were right. He was lack of concern and the way he wrote me those message kind of pissed me off.

He told me before that I could never deduct anything in my policy only adding.


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post Jun 28 2021, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Jun 28 2021, 11:00 PM)
sure, hope you can find a solution best for you through the people here.
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Thnx CK. You guys are helpful. After venting I feel a lot better actually

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post Jun 29 2021, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(tyenfei @ Jun 28 2021, 11:35 PM)
Assuming it is medical plan.

Usually come along with some riders. Certain amount of life sum assured . Hospital benefits or critical illness.
If yes, should be able to request adjust.

You may call direct to service center and find out as well. They will verify you before answering questions.
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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Jun 28 2021, 11:38 PM)
That depends on what you have in your existing policy.

If the benefit is already the bare minimum where you can’t really alter anything further, then probably you’re not suitable to maintain an investment linked policy and need to opt for a term insurance instead.

That being said, again I don’t know any details about your policy to comment so I’ll refrain from making any further comment until more details is shared.
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It is a medical plan (Allianz Medisafe Inifinite Plus)
Basic sum assured rm100k. I pay monthly rm300 for 37y
Policy started Feb 2020. Here is a bit of screenshot of my summarised
Policy.

https://ibb.co/HFxD429

I'm concerned if I get any disease I am not able to pay for the hospitalization and treatment because of my income.

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post Jun 29 2021, 02:00 AM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Jun 29 2021, 01:39 AM)
That is quite comprehensive already.

You've a waiver of premium included within the policy which will take care of the policy premium if you're down with CI/TPD

Hospitalization is already covered by the Medisafe Infinite.
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I hope I can contribute more down the road.
I have seen so many young and old people could not afford treatments after struck with disease. That is a horrible situation to face

What is ci/tpd?

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post Jun 29 2021, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Jun 29 2021, 06:35 AM)
When such situation arises, is because they cannot afford the premium. Is payment till death or the term expires whichever comes first.

Many older policies cannot cover medical costs due to small annual limit and as time passes, medical cost increases and they still have to seek treatment from govt hosp. Lower annual limit comes with lower premium.

Many failed or forgot to review the coverage or simply cannot afford additional premium. The 'unlucky' ones may have to surrender or lapse the policy when income is affected like the now pandemic.

So buying enough coverage today and tomorrow is a tough call for those who wants protection with low premium.

Anyway ...

CI is critical illness
TPD is total permanent disability
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Thnx for the clarification. I hope mine does cover temporarily for few years to come. Touch wood.




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post Jun 29 2021, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Jun 29 2021, 10:32 AM)
CI - Critical Illness
TPD - Total Permanent Disability

That being said, it's good to have awareness on how transfer your risk to a 3rd party if you do face such situation.
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Medical treatment is costly and scary place to be in if you were in that situation. I know my place financially so I think I'm doing the right thing. But finding a good agent is not as easy as I thought. Nevertheless, what's done is done. Will not make the same mistake again.
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post Nov 12 2024, 03:21 PM

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I just realized my insurance premium gone up RM164 since Feb and I havent pay for the increment yet. Could anyone help me decipher my policy ?
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post Nov 12 2024, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 12 2024, 04:14 PM)
I assumed you are on ILP.
1.It will start to minus your cash value.
2. Sustainability will decrease means number of years covered will likely be reduced if large amount minus. If small amount usually still ok. You need to see the letter send by your insurance company whether it is stated that sustainability affected or not.
3. If you got sufficient cash value, you will still be covered.
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Yes. I didn't realize it. I didn't study deeper before signing for one.
Allianz Power Link. All I ever wanted is to get covered when I entered hospital if I have illness. This new premium is too much and taking a chunk from my salary. RM464 a month. I am not sure if this policy is good enough now. Anyone I can pm my policy to ?

Not sure about number 2.
As for Number 3, my cash value is almost negative because I could not pay my insurance for almost a year due to lost of job back in Covid


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post Nov 12 2024, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 12 2024, 07:33 PM)
Talk to your agent. Get rid of some of the riders. Downgrade to the minimum plan as much as possible. If agent useless, ask allianz to find you new agent.

If money is issue and ILP still too expensive, I would suggest getting cheap insurance like Generali emedic and cover yourself first even though coverage is low. Later once you are sure you can afford rm1m coverage then change insurance. Yes let the current insurance lapse.

That's the only way I can see you.

Mind you asking for help here is like dangling your bleeding leg in shark infested water. Likely will sell you new plan. Be very careful.
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Thank you for your advice. Appreciate it. Texting my agent now. If he is not doing anything, will see.
I believe my coverage is the basic ones. I am not sure what else to deduct. The riders seem quite important. Critical illness and etc. My fear is to arrive at hospital, sick and unable to pay for treatments. I am also quite old so anything could happen.
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post Nov 13 2024, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 12 2024, 08:29 PM)
Rider like paying for hospitalisation is not needed.
If you got no kids cut down to minimum amount of life insurance coverage.
Critical illness be careful. If you don't fulfilled the definition of the disease, you won't get paid out. So this one 50-50.
If old then don't do anything drastic.
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Incase I fell sick I might not have money to be hospitalized. This is what I am afraid of.
I don't have the emergency money for that.
I am nearing 40s so anything could happen *touch wood*

What is basic assured the same as death benefit ?
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post Nov 16 2024, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 13 2024, 01:07 PM)
You are living a very dangerous life without emergency money.
Is your say RM100/day that insurance pay for for hospitalisation worth it for say RM50/month rider?
I am not talking about hospitalisation cost. I am talking about extra money that is paid to you for being hospitalised.

How often you masuk hospital? If you masuk once every 10 years, it's like paying RM6k for say RM500 payment (5 days stay).

I am talking about hospitalisation income and not your main medical insurance.
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QUOTE(tweakity @ Nov 13 2024, 02:01 PM)
Ohhh me also 40 so i can give you some reference. Feels like you have a expensive rider. Maybe Critical Illness is very high. or Basic amount (yes its death benefit) north of 150k.
If you really have budget concern, can remove one of the 'expensive rider'. my case cheapy is because i didn't add Critical illness.
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My insurance is summarized as below. I haven't claim anything yet. I wish I dont have to.
Yes. I hope I could work on it. My salary has been stagnant for some time and below RM3k. There are some stuff happened in my family so I could not even save.

If not mistaken, I did ask for zero fee if admitted to hospital.

Allianz Power Link - RM300/month (will reprice to RM464/month)

Basic sum assured - RM100k. Cover 37y
Total Permanent Disability - RM100k. Till 71y
Prime Care+ - RM50k. Pay & Cover till 100y
Prime Care+ (Cancer Recovery Benefit) - RM17,500k. Pay & Cover till 100y
Prime Care+ (Diabetes Recovery Benefit) - RM10k. Pay & Cover till 100y
Prime Care+ (Catastrophic CI benefit) - RM10k. Pay & Cover till 100y
PACover - RM100k. Cover 37y
PayorCover - RM3600. Cover 37y
PayorCover (ETPD) - RM3600. Cover 37y

Medisafe Infinite (base plan)
Room - RM150
Overal Annual Limit - RM850k. Unlimited lifetime. Maturity 2057. Till 100y
Hospital Asst Fee - Till 100y


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post Feb 24 2025, 02:36 PM

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My insurance is lapsing soon as I could not afford the increment. The increment is more than 50% since last year.
My agent didn't help much and he is too cocky. He said let it lapse. Lol. I was wondering if I could change agent or let it lapse and buy a new policy?

My current one is ILP and I need a medical card.

Thank you in advance
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post Feb 24 2025, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Feb 24 2025, 02:51 PM)

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new premium since 2024 @ RM464
old premium since started @ RM300
I opted for a zero deductible. I understand this is expensive but with the increment, I could no longer afford it as I have a strict monthly commitment with family

I am torn between keeping my policy or getting a new pure medical card for now but for sure I cannot stand my current agent. He even belittled me when I had concern
Allianz policy btw.

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