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if you just go a google search on great eastern...its all over the newsInsurance Talk V7!, Your one stop Insurance Discussion
Insurance Talk V7!, Your one stop Insurance Discussion
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Feb 11 2023, 01:05 PM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Feb 11 2023, 11:17 AM) I drop my interest on GE website and they send me one person with MDRT status. The moment I see MDRT status, I was like hell no. I am buying from her. Bloody MDRT status and true enough that person was pushy. Lol. Do you mind me asking what is MDRT status?I want my insurance agent to drive normal car and don't advertise you have MDRT status. |
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Apr 28 2023, 08:33 AM
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QUOTE(jimmy G @ Apr 28 2023, 07:43 AM) i have a question, i upgraded my plan a year back and was told i need to keep my old plan during "transition". Did your agent tell you that you will be terminating your old plan and buying a new plan? I hope he did disclose this to you instead of just telling you that it is an ‘upgrade’. Basically he is earning commission every time you buy a new plan.It has some investment link plan in it any idea when usually i can get it back. my agent wasn't really able to give me a timeframe. |
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May 5 2023, 09:30 AM
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QUOTE(virulence @ May 5 2023, 09:17 AM) Is this Insurance Savings plan any good? There are better investment instruments out there (i.e. ASM that is pretty hot these days).https://www.uob.com.my/personal/insure/digi....page#enrolment |
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Jun 18 2023, 07:26 AM
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QUOTE(CommodoreAmiga @ Jun 17 2023, 11:44 AM) I also kena Prudential hack. But i use Maybank card, which links to MAE app, there will be a notification for every transaction, so at least i can monitor. Not sure other banks has similar app functions? Prudential also has the option to pay your premium manually if you do not want to take any risk of them storing your credit card information. |
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Jun 26 2023, 09:02 AM
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Have anyone used fi life before? I wonder for their yearly renewable medical card, is it guaranteed renewal? It says it is guaranteed renewal up to age 100 but it does not say if it is under the company's discretion.
Policy Renewal / Renewal Premium (i) This is a yearly renewable policy. Unless renewed, the coverage will cease on expiry date and the insurance company shall strictly not be liable for any expenses that take place after the expiry date. (ii) The renewal of the policy is at the option of the Policyholder until the occurrence of any of the following: (a) non-payment of premium or premium not made on time; (b) fraud or misrepresentation of material fact during application; © the policy is cancelled at the request of the Policyholder; (d) the Insured Person ceases to qualify as a dependent based on the definition of the policy; (e) the Insured Person attains the coverage age limit specified; (f) the death of the Insured Person; and (g) termination of coverage for all policies in a certain market and the Company withdraws this policy completely from the market in accordance with the Portfolio Withdrawal Condition. |
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Sep 2 2023, 08:35 PM
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QUOTE(zigot14 @ Sep 2 2023, 08:24 PM) Hi all, would like to seek some advice on my following situation: Short answer is no, you should not be cancelling your personal insurance. One should always have their own personal insurance. If you lose your job, you will end up without any coverage. Bear in mind that if you are diagnosed with any illness as you age, it will be very difficult for you to get any coverage at that time.1. I have a 7-year old medical card insurance policy. Monthly payment RM275, investment value now around RM10,000. So far the plan is quite good, high coverage amount and cover most of the things. 2. But I recently just started new job in a company. The company got provide medical insurance also, and the plan is also very good coverage and even include for family members. 3. So my question is.. should I cancel my personal medical insurance? BUT even if I cancel, I plan to save the existing investment value RM10,000 and continue monthly own-self save/invest the RM275. My plan is IF after 3-5 years I no longer work in the company and lose the insurance, then I can get a new personal insurance plan using the money saved. Does this makes sense? Will I be losing out in terms of any value or coverage benefit if I cancel the existing policy and then get a new one after 3-5 years? The only thing I can foresee losing in the current personal plan is the yearly booster amount, where every year my annual coverage will auto increase by 5% or something like that. Another option is to downgrade the existing medical plan, but I'm not sure if this is something allowed? Mine is AIA btw. |
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Sep 3 2023, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE(chong6998 @ Sep 3 2023, 08:48 AM) hi Critical illness coverage purpose mainly is to cover expenses when you are diagnosed with an illness and is unable to work. Imagine you cannot work and you have bills to pay, this is there the critical illness coverage comes in handy, and usually it comes in a lump sum. Please do check if it covers early stage critical illness. If it only covers late stage critical illness, no point getting it. i would like to know the recommended critical illness coverage amount? is critical ilness plan important ? i 34age, non smoker, currently having an old axx ilp-plan come with 150k life and 150k critical ilness, mature 70yo, rm2000annually axx agent recommend swap old plan get axx wealth plan ? come with 400k life and 350k critical ilness, mature 70yo, rm5000annually this plan 350k minimum for critical ilness So it really depends on how much your monthly spending is, what your commitments are, and use all those information to calculate how much coverage you need. Some people just take their monthly salary and multiply by the number of months for easier calculation. The higher coverage you purchase, the more expensive the plan gets. Hence you need to strike a balance. On the plan swap, tbh I wouldn’t do that unless I really need to. If I really need the additional coverage I would just purchase a new plan. However, I can’t really give any advice without knowing your actual situation. This post has been edited by coolguy99: Sep 3 2023, 09:19 AM |
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Sep 5 2023, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 5 2023, 09:44 AM) Your choice. I am not you and you are not me. For me I cover medical insurance until 80 years old. Cause after 80 just use govt. You are already half dead by then. Unless you are mahathir or some tycoon where you don't want to die. Haha... Really good advice. I believe one must perform their own due diligence and understand what they are paying for. Insurance agents can be a good source of knowledge, but it is also important to understand and digest what they are telling you, such that you are not following their lead blindly.For critical illness, I will cover until 60-65. Why? The longer the coverage you choose the more expensive it is. Critical illness is to cover you incase you lose your job. Are you working at 70-80 years old? If you got any of the illness, your kids will benefit. Remember insurance is a lottery you don't want to get. I will tell you something, all rider you add will increase your premium and decrease your sustainability unless you up the premium. There is no free lunch in insurance. Do you really need the extra income while you are in the hospital? Say 50-100 and are you ok to pay more premium for something that you don't need? You can save on premium abd generate your own income while being hospitalised. How? Just throw the saved premium into a MMF where you can withdraw the money anytime you like with more or less FD interest. Keep in mind, the a+ waiver extra will only kick in if you fulfilled the definition of the disease. A good example given to me by my agent, her client got heart attack with 67% blockage in the artery. Waiver did not kick in cause need to be 70% or more. For me I learn early on. Buy what you need. All agents will tell you oh this addition is good. That addition is good. Of course good ma. It's nice to have. Do you really need it? Are they paying for your plan? Nope. In fact you are paying them that is why they said everything is good. Remember no free lunch in insurance. Yes you can have all that but unless you set your premium to around >4k per year your insurance cannot even reach 80 years old. How did I know? I was there. I add everything inside cause "nice to have ma". Then I saw sustainability cannot reach 80 years old. I was let us remove everything and focus on medical only. Even with premium of around RM3-3.6k it can barely touch 80 years old. If you got extra money and don't mind paying your agent or the insurance company more money, by all means go ahead. Also something to take note, are you ready for your ILP to unexpectedly increase your premium every say 2-5 years? Are you ready to do a top-up lump sum of insurance around 40-50 years so that your insurance can sustain you? Yes need topup or else cannot sustain. Many agent will "conveniently" leave this part out. For me I am not going to top-up extra nor do I want the unexpected increase. Shop around never get your source from one agent. You can even contact the company and speak to 2-5 agent for the same product. We are living in an era where information are just one click away. Just take some time, do some research on the internet, eventually you will be the one benefiting from this as it is your own insurance policy. |
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Oct 3 2023, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE(Rinth @ Oct 3 2023, 10:19 AM) After all this is forum, where for me at least, is a place to gather information and chit chatty. Totally agree. Personally I gained a lot from Ramjade's sharing too. Don't get me wrong, I myself have purchased ILP products for myself and my family, but from his sharing, I got to know the benefits of a standalone product, but that does not mean I am sold, just good enough to know the pros and cons of each product, and make my own informed decision.For this particular thread, i'm sorry to say i didnt get any useful info that i want from agents, like many have shared here that its always standard answer. Not sure whether its ethic issues or any other reason. From Ramjade although his post is long, but i personally get info that i want, but doesnt mean i had to follow his idea to totally avoid ILP products, not everyone is sophisticated or discipline enough to invest themselves.. So all in all, this thread is just a platform to gather information. Its still fall back to potential buyers needs and wants, if they feel standalone is good then go ahead, if ILP more suitable for them, then so be it. Isn't this what a forum should be? If I want to engage any licensed agents, it is just a few clicks away. Why would I come to a forum to look for an agent? |
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Oct 3 2023, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE(MUM @ Oct 3 2023, 10:45 AM) This is an open forum, not a place for agents to 'hunt' for potential clients. Wedchar2912 and Ramjade liked this post
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Oct 3 2023, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(MUM @ Oct 3 2023, 11:05 AM) But what if the potential buyer does not posts or want to post more confidentail details? Like I say. If I want to look for an agent, it is just a few clicks away. For example: AIA -> Click talk to a life planner, enter your information, submit the form -> a licensed agent will contact me in a few days.I believes it needs alot of added financial details also before can "tailor" it Why would I want to look for an agent in an open forum? On the contrary, how sure are you that agents in this forum are not using this forum as a source of business? Is this even permitted? This post has been edited by coolguy99: Oct 3 2023, 11:16 AM Ramjade liked this post
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Oct 3 2023, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(MUM @ Oct 3 2023, 11:14 AM) Did you not notice, there are many questions asking about it here You mean after asking about it here, and getting a PM in your inbox like this after?Some just want mire info to help them to decide after getting info from the web ![]() This post has been edited by coolguy99: Oct 3 2023, 11:33 AM Ramjade and mini orchard liked this post
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Jan 5 2024, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE(jrshow @ Jan 5 2024, 09:59 AM) hi gurus, my friend have a medical insurance under great eastern, the sick he have is cyst in his mouth require operation at his mouth at a dentist clicnic. i want to ask, does this operation cover under great eastern insurance, the agents looks like bullshit with my friend and keep on questioning why do the operation at dentist there. I am not insurance agent but I have never heard of procedures done in dental clinic can be claimed under our medical insurance. My guess would be no as it would be deemed as a dental procedure. |
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Jan 12 2024, 06:46 AM
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jan 12 2024, 02:49 AM) Question for Great Eastern agents. I am in the same boat too. Received the same letter due to medical repricing for medical riders in GE ILP. Lets say I have a ILP with an attached medical rider (SMX200). My premium is currently RM200. However, the recent sustainability letter says I need to increase my premium to RM280, and the repricing letter says I need to increase premium to RM250. I'm considering switching plans to SMS-250-D. The recommended premium by agent is BIP RM340 and GSR RM30 (for top-up premium), i.e. total premium of RM370. 1) Can I elect to maintain my BIP at RM200, and instead apportion all the recommended increase in premium to GSR, such that the GSR becomes RM170? 2) Can I elect to maintain my monthly premium at RM200 for the time being, and revisit in the future during the next sustainability letter? I have ample cash value, and for now the annual premium is around twice the total cost of insurance of the plan + riders. Thanks! I chose to remain at my current premium for now. But by doing so my policy has a high chance of not being able to sustain till the end of my policy year, and that I might have to perform top up some time down the road. If I am not wrong, plan switching is the same as buying a new plan? and you are subjected to the two years of contestability period? if so, pls consult your agent on the implications first before making this decision. I would keep my old plan if I were you. |
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QUOTE(MUM @ Jan 12 2024, 07:27 AM) Just curious and just asking only. I opted in last time round. And also if I am not wrong, the additional premium goes into the investment fund? The investment fund is not performing too well. I would rather invest in other places that yields better returns and perform a one time top up later. Why do you still choose to remain at your current premium level even after knowing the possible results? Isn't topping it now will have a more smoother or gradual financial commitment shock than performing larger top up later? Just my personal preference. I guess they both yield the same result - to ensure that your policy does not lapse. This post has been edited by coolguy99: Jan 12 2024, 07:33 AM |
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Jan 23 2024, 07:56 AM
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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jan 22 2024, 04:06 PM) Heads up everyone. A centralised medical claims database is coming soon, spearheaded by BNM. It is one of the measures to contain medical claims experience. What's with all the new database coming up these days? Hope they beef up the cybersecurity to prevent data leaks. |
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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Apr 9 2024, 11:13 AM) Chill. When I said "put the money elsewhere", I was referring to the "extra amount". Instead of putting that extra amount into the insurance, better put it elsewhere that can generate more so that can use the money to pay for the insurance later on. I am currently doing so too. Well I just make sure I have money to top up when the time comes. Too much uncertainty with all the medical cost inflation. Whatever that I top up now goes into the investment fund as well which may not generate as much return. Might as well park my money somewhere else.I'm not against buying insurance, just not give the money to insurance and hope that they will grow it to pay for future premium (aka ILP). This post has been edited by coolguy99: Apr 9 2024, 06:20 PM |
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QUOTE(smallikanbilis @ May 14 2024, 09:56 PM) Hi Sifus my GE agent just asked me to surrender my Medic Xtra -99 plan and purchase SmartMedic Shield+SmartMedic Shield I think your agent just wants to earn new policy commission by asking you to surrender your old policy and buy a new one. Extender plan. May I ask if it is possible to upgrade the existing old plan instead rather than surrendering and buying new plan? I would like to avoid the reset of contestability period. Maybe just get a new agent. I wouldn't want to continue with an agent like yours. |
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Dec 4 2024, 09:38 PM) been chatting with my AIA agent. agent proposed switching to AIA copayment option called SMART:- AIA Smart. says no cooling period or anything if want to switch to this, will enforce straightaway on next year renewal. Do you have any other insurance other than the one you mentioned here? Some people go for copayment as they have other insurance (i.e. company insurance) to cover for them. Hence it makes a lot of sense to go for the copayment option.from what I understood of this AIA SMART option, it will be RM500 deductible if following it (using their 'SMART' panels, etc). If not following it, will have to pay myself 20% of the total med cost (capped at rm20k per disability). annual premium if I switch to this SMART plan: RM2159 per year (~RM180 per month) if I stay with my current AIA Plan 200 non-deductible plan next year: RM2522 (~RM210 per month) mine just standalone medcard btw, no ILP |
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