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bogletails
post May 16 2024, 07:43 PM

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Currently surveying insurance and have some questions to ask. I'm 25, looking for plan that sustain till 80 years old.

1. Is payor waiver necessary? Currently I have a very good saving and adding this waiver will add Rm50 to my monthly premium which is Rm600 per year.

2. If let's say we compare apple to apple. 1-1.5mil AL, 200 Room and board. Life insurance set at minimum (10-50k), (Critical illness, personal accident, waivor) all removed, which company is cheaper? AIA, Allianz, GE, Prudential.

Although I have money I would like to keep the premium at minimum, if possible I want to get a standalone but all the companies have a very bad annual limit for standalone plan. If anyone got good recommendation can let me know too.

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post May 16 2024, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ May 16 2024, 07:47 PM)
1. Good to have since premium is not that expensive

2. Depends on occupation, gender and other options
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1. I know it's good to have. Actually all rider is good to have. But the thing is, is it worth extra 600 per year?

2. If occupation is just office work, male. Low risk occupation. If every metric set to be the same, out of these 4 big insurance co, which is better and which one is cheaper in your opinion

Oh one more question. What would u recommend the coverage period usually? Until 70 or 80? I think the price difference is huge.
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post May 16 2024, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ May 16 2024, 08:15 PM)
You won't get good replies here.
1. Read what does the waiver cover. According to my agent her client took the waiver but insurance company does not want to cover as
It does not fulfilled the definition of the sickness
Eg. Heart attack, the waiver will only cover if >=70% of blockage of blood vessel. So if the doctor report write as 60%, no waiver will be given. The waiver is pretty basic stuff unless they upgraded it.
Also the waiver won't cover any increase in premium other than the original premium. You can search this topic.

2. You have to shop yourself like what I did and tabulate the data yourself. No one here is going to help as "some people here wants payment" before giving you this info. I

You can get standalone. AIA, GE, Generali all have standalone plans. You need booster to boost up coverage to 1m+ if you are going to buy AIA or GE.

Go with  AIA and take the highest deductible plan. Supplement it with gathercare. That is what I will be doing in the future. Gathercare only cost like RM300-400/year. Use gathercare as main insurance and and have savings of at least 30k if somehow gathercare does not work.
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If take standalone, is the renewal guarantee? If I got a illness one day, can they stop me from buying insurance next year? That's what the AIA agent tell me when I say I want standalone

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post May 16 2024, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ May 16 2024, 08:31 PM)

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Old, retired and can't work can qualify for waivor? My concern is I worry the waiver only will activate when my critical illness is end stage and I'm half dead . Like that no point alrd right? If early stage can activate waivor I will confirm take it.
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post May 16 2024, 11:18 PM

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Anyone take the ilindung from EPF? Seems like a good way to cover for critical illness. wondering how much cheaper compare to buying from agent?
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post May 23 2024, 10:58 PM

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Any opinion if I buy insurance but only cover the bare minimum for life and critical illness?

Medical card annual limit over 1mil
Life:20k
Critical illness : No
Personal accident: No
Waivor : No

Honestly I just need the medical part but spoke to 3 different agents from aia , Prudential all also tell me buying standalone will risk later insurance dont allow to renew. I know there is guaranteed renewal but these agents are saying like that and there's some dark stories in the industry and I should believe them.

I am in my late 20s and already got 60 months living expenses saved in high liquid investment. So those coverage for life/ critical illness I think is not so important anymore right? Ideally I want to keep my premium as low as possible.


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post May 24 2024, 08:10 AM

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QUOTE(JIUHWEI @ May 24 2024, 07:56 AM)
Maybe you need to speak to me.
I have agency staff to remind you even if the app notifications somehow fail to reach you.

MORE IMPORTANTLY:
Go through a financial health check.
The process puts all your numbers in front of you.
You're a shrewd guy, I believe the numbers will then help you decide if you need coverage for Life / Critical Illness coverage and how much (if there is a need at all).

As opposed to always going on a guesstimate, why not move forward with certainty?
Wouldn't that make it easier to go hard when the opportunity arises, knowing that you can?
Just like how your 60-month living expenses reserves invested, doesn't it make you feel good knowing that you have that amount ready and liquid?
Why does it not make you feel secure with it when it should?  :thumbsup:
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I have tried those financial health check on insurance website. Of course their agenda is to tell me everything not enough and need more coverage, that's how they make money isn't it. Honestly even if I put 100k for life, critical illness and personal accident, I still think that 100k is nothing, but the premium is going to be extra 70-80%.
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post May 26 2024, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(jsonting @ May 25 2024, 01:30 AM)
..... i think that's b.s.
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Why is that BS tho? You just need to have 2 million invested at 5% return a year.

2mil x 5% = 100k. No need to work and live forever without touching the capital. Easily achievable.
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post May 26 2024, 08:24 PM

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Honestly I would trust someone more who don't take a cut from whatever he is promoting lol. Atleast there is no conflict of interest.

 

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