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post Sep 16 2021, 09:32 AM

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Satisfy your need for more protection with SmartMedic Million Extender Special. We will triple up your RM1 million medical coverage to RM3 million at no extra cost.
And now, it comes with complimentary COVID-19 medical coverage. Get the Great Combo today before it’s too late > http://my.gelife.co/smm1 – for a limited offer period only!
For free delivery, contact your Great Eastern agent today!


https://www.facebook.com/150215745052830/po...0590665953/?d=n

Saw this on FB. Anyone know what is this? We get a free rider with no extra premium??

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post Sep 16 2021, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Sep 16 2021, 10:02 AM)
Yes, at not extra cost.
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Thanks.

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post Sep 16 2021, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Sep 16 2021, 10:09 AM)
according to your link,...

Q: Is there any cost (i.e. additional premium/ insurance charge) that the life assured has to pay for this Programme?
A: No, there is no additional premium/ insurance charge that the life assured has to pay for the complimentary protection under this Programme. This Programme is provided by Great Eastern on goodwill basis.

Q: Will there be any guaranteed letter issued if the life assured is hospitalised due to COVID-19?
A: No, any claim from this Programme will be on medical reimbursement basis.

Cashless facility is not applicable for hospital admission when the life assured is diagnosed with COVID-19.

Q: What is the coverage period of this Programme?
A: The period covered under this Programme is based on hospital admission date from 18 August 2021 until the amount of the RM20 million fund set aside for this Programme is exhausted. The Company will provide a notification at least 15 days prior to the withdrawal of this Programme.

Q: Can the life assured claim under this Programme if he/she is a Category 1 or 2 COVID-19 patient but was recommended by his/her doctor to be hospitalised?
A: In general, for a COVID-19 patient with no symptoms (Category 1 - asymptomatic) or who does not require active treatment i.e. in quarantine only (Category 1 - asymptomatic or Category 2 - symptomatic, no pneumonia), any services received during such hospitalisation including quarantine at quarantine centres, quarantine at hospitals or home quarantine would not be deemed as Medically Necessary. Hence, the expenses incurred will not be reimbursed under this Programme, unless there is evidence showing the hospitalisation and treatment received are Medically Necessary and active treatment is required for the patient during the hospitalisation.

Q: Are all COVID-19 claims under Category 3, 4 or 5 deemed as Medically Necessary?
A: Yes, all COVID-19 patients receiving active treatment in a hospital as a Category 3, 4 or 5 patient would be deemed as Medically Necessary.

Q: What is considered as Medically Necessary for COVID-19 hospitalisation?
A: When the life assured receives among others, active treatments such ventilation support, oxygen supports, intubation or intravenous medication during hospitalisation due to positive diagnosis.

“Medically Necessary” means a medical service which is:-
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(read from the link for more FAQs details...
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Thanks, the COVID 20M has been there for about a month now. I heard the utilization is surprisingly low. Meaning most of the 18/19Million is left.


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post Sep 16 2021, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Sep 16 2021, 10:49 AM)
maybe because of this consideration,..

Q: Will there be any guaranteed letter issued if the life assured is hospitalised due to COVID-19?
A: No, any claim from this Programme will be on medical reimbursement basis.

Cashless facility is not applicable for hospital admission when the life assured is diagnosed with COVID-19.

must have money in pocket to pay first....then subject the bill to be scrutinize for items/services deemed to be “Medically Necessary”

and also the chances of getting it and the chances of happening to those people with those insurance eligible plans
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Thanks, was informed by friend that AIA is now giving out GL for COVID. Previously was a no

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post Sep 16 2021, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(ping325 @ Sep 16 2021, 09:36 PM)
Nowadays , covid and vaccine campaign t&c keep on revised  rclxub.gif
better to check all insurer official website everyday for latest info haha
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Haha that is true.
I was surprised GE 20million fund not utilized quickly.
Maybe good for them because they introduced it after most people have been vaccinated.


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post Mar 24 2022, 10:36 PM

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QUOTE(steventan85 @ Mar 23 2022, 02:24 PM)
Prudential ? Great Eastern ? AIA ?
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None of these 3.
Another A..

no further clues.
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post Mar 26 2022, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(ZZMsia @ Mar 24 2022, 10:36 PM)
None of these 3.
Another A..

no further clues.
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Sorry my bad
I've seen the letter
It's G..
Letter not for public notice.

Some riders up to 50 pct..effective 1 July
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post Mar 30 2022, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Mar 29 2022, 11:43 PM)
Updates on Savings/Endowment Plan

Product: Single Premium, 24-months, 100% Principal Protected, 5% + minimum of 1% and maximum of 5% potential enhancement at maturity.


Your thoughts?
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UBB Amanah better returns than this. Around 3 years minimum (20k for the promo period- not sure if there is promo now).


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post Mar 30 2022, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Mar 30 2022, 12:52 PM)
thanks for bringing this up.

You may compare PIT with UBB.

UBB
1. under Trust
2. Tenure: 3 years
3. Proof of underlying investment: Unknown & Non Disclosure in Offering Document
4. Fund Manager: Unknown & Non Disclosure
5. Written in their paper: "Projected 5% - 7% p.a" - paid yearly
6. Shariah Compliance: Unknown
7. No insurance in the event of default
8. Beneficiary

PIT
1. Under Trust
2. Tenure: 3 years
3. Underlying Fund is managed by VCMC licensed by SC Malaysia
4. 15% p.a committed return paid quarterly before fees
5. Shariah Compliant
6. Insured by insurance 80%
7. Beneficiary

The question now is, will you put your money into something that is regulated (transparency) or non-regulated (no transparency)?
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Sorry what is PIT again?

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post Jul 28 2024, 03:47 PM

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Hi anyone here have claimed medical hospitalization bill from MPI generali / Generali before? Previously known as AXA insurance.

Any issues with the claims?
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post Jul 29 2024, 08:36 AM

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QUOTE(contestchris @ Jul 29 2024, 01:38 AM)
If you are single and plan on being single, and have no parents or others who depend on you financially, what’s the point of buying any life insurance?

Spending RM600 per month on insurance on a salary of RM4.2k is just too much.

Again, with the information you’ve provided, it’s obvious you are over insured, but more critically, potentially underinsured in terms of medical coverage, which should be your main priority as a single individual.
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Salary only 4.2k .. insurance too much at this age..

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post Jul 30 2024, 09:21 PM

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Can I know, for CI policies, high possibility for repricing every 3 years? Or less frequent than Medical card..

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post Jul 30 2024, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Jul 30 2024, 09:25 PM)
Unless it's written that the premium is guaranteed. Otherwise, insurer will reprice as they deem necessary.
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OK thanks. So, commonly, repricing happens.. thank you

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post Aug 5 2024, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(mikhailcbh @ Jul 26 2024, 07:53 AM)
Dear Sifus,

Guess I am another "victim" to another insurance premium increase.

I bought my son an ILP insurance from Allianz upon his birth in Nov 2019. Premium then was RM 206, now increase to RM 329. Policy is Medisafe Infinite+ Plan 150. Sum insured is RM 10k, 72 critical illness circa RM 85k, there is this pay or  cover rider too, where i can stop premium if (touch wood) kena one of the critical illness.

My question is:

Is there any alternate option I have to maintain the current RM 206 premium?

Just want to gain some upperhand while pending my agent's reply.

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Why small child having CI insurance??

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post Sep 13 2024, 08:26 AM

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I RECENTLY received a letter from my insurance company stating that my medical insurance premium would increase from RM540 per month to RM2,030 per month.

The reasons cited were the significant increase in the cost of medical treatments and my attaining the age of 65.

When I took out this policy in 2010, the insurance agent did not advise me that I should expect such an increase after I retired. It is ironic that when one stops receiving a salary, the premium would increase by 275%!

I was advised that if I did not agree to the increase, my premium would be buoyed for some months by the investment within the policy. After this, the policy would lapse and I would not have medical insurance anymore.

The customer service representative who attended to me was quite chirpy and blunt when she told me I should have taken out the policy at a much younger age. So, apparently the mistake was mine?

This week, I received an email from another insurance company, advising that the premium for my son will increase by 30% per month. The reason given was medical inflation.

I took out this policy for my son when he was 18 years old. Not young enough? It has only been two years and the insurance company is already making adjustments. What adjustments will be made in the next two years?

At the point when I am a retiree, I am facing a 30% increase for my son and a 275% increase for myself in premium rates.

These levels of increases are unfair. In fact, they are punitive. When we most need medical coverage and when we no longer have a regular stream of income, that is when the insurance company hits us. I wonder what Bank Negara Malaysia is doing to protect the public.

The excuse used by insurance companies is that they are facing significant increases in the value of claims. Yet, when I look at their profit and loss (P&L) accounts, they look very healthy. And I am not surprised. If customers have to face the increases that I have quoted, it is no wonder that the companies’ P&Ls look healthy – maybe too healthy.

I am disheartened that when the insurance agent was selling me the medical policy, no warning was given of premium changes in the very near future. In fact, the agent was applauding the wisdom of buying the policy when my son was young.

I recall asking about premium hikes, and the response was that insurance is a regulated industry and Bank Negara would not allow significant increases.

I now strongly believe that for every new policy sold, the insurance agent must disclose the potential for premium increases and how soon that could happen.

There must also be a sign-off by the customer that he/she has been informed of that clause and accepted it.

I took out my policy when I was younger, working, and when my medical coverage was provided by my employer.

During that period, I did not have to use my own policy, which was for my protection once I retired.

It is ironic that when one might most need medical insurance, the insurance company makes it unaffordable. In fact, it just might be their underlying business plan, drawn up by highly-paid actuaries, to make medical premiums more and more unfeasible as their customers grow older. It certainly makes lucrative sense for the industry.

Surely, Bank Negara as the regulator of insurance companies should be protecting the customers. The situation is already out of control and the government needs to get involved.

TONY PEREIRA

Petaling Jaya
https://www.thestar.com.my/opinion/letters/...surance-premium

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post Sep 20 2024, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 19 2024, 12:25 PM)
Not true. If I were to chose again, I would still choose standalone. Go see the news and Reddit, lowyat. Those kena hike in premium are those with ILPs. It's like every 2-3 got repricing.

And pay extra for fund management fees, pay more premium each time fund not performing? No thank you.
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This is not true also... the MPI Generali has increased a lot this year too.. for standalone insurance.

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post Sep 20 2024, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(AlvinDj @ Sep 18 2024, 02:27 PM)
Any thoughts on Generali's SmartCare Optimum Plus?

Looking at plan2 with 1.5mil annum limit + 350 R&B

The only major drawbacks I have compared among most so far are the pre-hospital only 60days and post-hospital only 90 days...

But their T&C's / Panels vs Price seems one of the best after comparing between most standalones.. Not sure how their claims stringency would be though..
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I have recent experience in generali Smart Care standalone plan claims..
It took 1-1.5 months and overall it was OK. But they don't pay for certain miscellaneous items, that were determined to be "nice to have" instead of medically necessary..

Plan was Non-Cashless

 

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