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1tanmee
post Jul 30 2021, 08:34 PM

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I have an ILP with GE, but the policy holder/owner is my spouse. How do I get the policy to be transferred fully to me?
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post Jul 31 2021, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(1tanmee @ Jul 30 2021, 08:34 PM)
I have an ILP with GE, but the policy holder/owner is my spouse. How do I get the policy to be transferred fully to me?
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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Jul 30 2021, 08:38 PM)
Absolute assignment
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Called up my agent (Great Eastern), and she said cannot do! because my policy is 3rd party, not 1st party. I was like, what?? She say like forever the policy will be under my wife's name, and in case of her demise, the policy shall lapsed.

Question is, is there any other way?
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post Aug 2 2021, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(1tanmee @ Jul 30 2021, 08:34 PM)
I have an ILP with GE, but the policy holder/owner is my spouse. How do I get the policy to be transferred fully to me?
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QUOTE(1tanmee @ Jul 31 2021, 12:14 PM)
Called up my agent (Great Eastern), and she said cannot do! because my policy is 3rd party, not 1st party. I was like, what?? She say like forever the policy will be under my wife's name, and in case of her demise, the policy shall lapsed.

Question is, is there any other way?
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QUOTE(ckdenion @ Jul 31 2021, 01:36 PM)
hi 1tanmee, this is the time you find out if your agent is speaking the truth or not. you can call to GE customer service @ 1300-1300 88 (your spouse should call since spouse is the owner) and asked if policyowner can transfer the ownership to life assured (in this case is you right?).
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Thanks for the number! Got my wife to call, and the response is the same sad.gif said that the policy is 3rd party, and forever cannot transfer. the only way is if the policy holder (my wife) passed away, only then can I request for the ownership to be transferred. How la like this. i don't trust it fully, coz later if really when passed away, then say still cannot transfer, meaning i will lose all the coverage..


QUOTE(mini orchard @ Jul 31 2021, 01:37 PM)
You wife must do the assignment to you because she is the policy owner. If your wife dont take action, nothing can be done.

Why was the policy bought under her name ?

I did it for my other policies since I am the policy owner.

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My wife has call the customer service, and the person say cannot, coz 3rd party sad.gif
We bought the policy under her name because she can claim tax, like i cannot coz i work in gig economy (and salary below requirement for tax)


QUOTE(lifebalance @ Jul 31 2021, 02:15 PM)
I don't see issue with performing the absolute assignment with your wife signing it off.

If your agent can't do it, then deal direct with Great Eastern Helpline
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Well, not the case with mine- tried but say cannot sad.gif
1tanmee
post Aug 3 2021, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(Ewa Wa @ Aug 2 2021, 07:45 PM)
Yes, the information given by the customer service is right. Your wife can't transfer the ownership back to you and she can't absolute assign the policy back to u as well. She only can absolute assignment this policy to another person (e.g your mother) and not you. Not recommend you to do any absolute assignment later make the situation even more complicated. Stay as it now.

No worries, I have done a case like your situation. Policy owner passes on and inform company by submitting the necessary documents e.g: death certificate, sign a Statutory Declaration with CTC from commission of oath then successfully transfer back to life assured.
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Thanks for the reply! and if I could enquire two concerns of mine, and hope you can enlighten me further:

1- Why is it that she can transfer it to any other person (e.g. my mother/her father) when the life insured is the same? I mean, it boggles me, as in either cases, the benefits are mine to enjoy (hospital admissions, daily cash allowance, etc) Except for death benefit, I guess, which the policyholder can grant to any persons mentioned as nominee.

2- How is it more complicated doing absolute assignment than to leave it as-is? I'd thought it'd be easier now, given that the consent can be easily given?

3- While this may be the case now, it may not be the same in the future, which worries me that the insurance lapses, or suspended(??) and I have to look for new insurance coverage. Which would be hard as I would have gotten older and maybe with medical conditions that would not allow me to get new insurance (or with very high loading)


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post Aug 3 2021, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Aug 2 2021, 09:07 PM)
A contract between the two persons is referred to as a contract between 2 parties. Party A and Party B.

When a 3rd person appeared in the contract but without any contractual duty, then he is considered a thirty party.

Eg. I bought a policy for my children. I am the policy owner and the 1st party and will pay the yearly premium. My children are the 3rd party. The insurance co is the 2nd party who will pay a claim for any injury or medical claim. The money goes to the policy owner and not the 3rd party.

3rd party dont have contractual rights.

The above is my opinion and a simple explaination and one must further read the contract tnc for additional or exclusion terms.

All employees under a company insurance are considered 3rd party. Any claims money goes to the company.
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This makes sense. So in my case, any claims made for accidents happening to me (3rd party), the payment from the insurance (2nd party) shall go to my wife as the policyholder, which is the first party? If this is the case, in the event that the first party party passes on, the contract ends and the policy ends. Any residual savings shall be made to the policyholder for it to be managed by the nominee?
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post Oct 7 2021, 11:31 AM

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I intend to withdraw some money from my Prudential (Conventional) ILP plan, but my servicing agent says that there's a need to check for sustainability report? Errr just why is this, since I am paying the premium regularly through direct debit.

 

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