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mini orchard
post Sep 16 2022, 05:30 AM

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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Sep 15 2022, 10:58 AM)
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cut story short, for kids = just get medical card is sufficient
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Life (non investment) + Critical Illness + Medical.
mini orchard
post Sep 17 2022, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(square2 @ Sep 17 2022, 11:51 AM)
does any one change agent from the same insurance company by buying a new product/policy? how does it work?
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Write in officially to request change.
mini orchard
post Sep 21 2022, 05:58 AM

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QUOTE(reeve-826 @ Sep 20 2022, 01:03 PM)
PRUSenior Med, if the pre illness doesn’t declared during purchase and find out later. What will happen ? The paid premium will refund back?
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Insurance co will not normally cancel a policy and do a refund. They just reject the claim and transfer the 'cancellation right' to the policyholder.

If policyholder terminate, they can keep the premium paid .... is business.

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post Sep 23 2022, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(Danhost @ Sep 23 2022, 07:29 AM)
Hi,
I have been holding my Great Eastern medical card - Great Medi care2 for more than 10 years, recently I was thinking to upgrade the plan, but I heard from my agent the plan no longer able to upgrade and I must take up the new investment plan smart protect.
Does anyone know if it's really true that the GE no longer allow to upgrade their Standalone Great Medi care2?
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Buy from another insurer. Just in case later down the road, if gela screw up or you are not happy with their services, you have another insurer to claim.

This post has been edited by mini orchard: Sep 23 2022, 10:28 AM
mini orchard
post Sep 27 2022, 05:40 AM

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QUOTE(azlim @ Sep 26 2022, 11:30 PM)
Hi, my dad's GE insurance due on Dec.
I own OCBC Titanium MasterCard but this only 0.1% cashback.
Is there any good credit card is good to earn cashback for premium payment besides OCBC Great Eastern Platinum Mastercard (I am not the policyholder)?
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Generally all cc cashback program have tnc.

Eg....

It will cap a certain max amount or only applicable for certain transactions or for counter payment.

A new cc will cost you RM50 sst and unless you need another cc for other purpose.

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mini orchard
post Oct 5 2022, 06:11 AM

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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Oct 4 2022, 10:22 PM)
Does anyone know if other insurance company besides GE charge a loading for being underweight? Is this a standard policy among for all insurance companies to charge underweight?

* non smoker, no medical history, all healthy after check up.
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Insurers are only interested in 'healthy normal' customers during the application. If one is 'abnormal' loading is normally added to justify the risks or a rejection.

They are in business for profits and NOT to pay claims.
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post Oct 5 2022, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Oct 5 2022, 09:26 AM)
I know that. I'm asking if anyone knows or encounter this underweight issue with other company besides GE.
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Your answer is straight forward.

Submit your application and let them decide. I doubt any agents can confirm because is individual risk.

Not all human health issues are same.

Agents and underwriters are not doctors.

Underweight or vice versa is just a general statement. They have to examine the overall health before deciding to insured a person.

Dont forget when you submit to another insurer, you have to declare your previous application. That is where they will study further.

Buying insurance is not an issue. When claims are rejected, the pain comes in.

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mini orchard
post Oct 10 2022, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(Nelon.Leong @ Oct 10 2022, 02:15 PM)
Hi guys, Need advice.

Holding GE:
(1) Life Insurance: RM190K
(2) Critical Illness: RM100K
(3) Room: Rm200
(4) Annual Limit: RM1.2M (unlimited Lifetime)
(5) Investment Link

Owning since 2010. RM320/month. In early 30s
My question is: recently im thinking top up, should I top up more money in GE to upgrade or apply 1 more from different renowned insurance company? Reason being I want more protection and I heard from my friends said don't always rely on 1 insurance company.  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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Follow your friend's advise.

Get few quotes and select the one that suit your needs.
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post Oct 20 2022, 06:56 AM

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QUOTE(Jessica JM. @ Oct 20 2022, 01:12 AM)
HI all, my parents were born in 1956 and 1964, but they don't have any health insurance. They always said government hospitals were fine (or semi-private), but I think I want to get them a basic plan (better than nothing).

Please let me know if you have any recommendations.
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1. For senior citizens, health check is necessary b4 a purchase.

2. Premium loadings and exclusion clauses are common with medical conditions or outright decline.

3. Basic or cheap plan normally wont last long if there are claims when hospitalised for major surgery. In the end, patient have no choice but revert to public hospitals.

For some, those with 1mil coverage also wont have it easy with claims. Insurers have rejected claims for non or false declaration of health problems. Ignorance is no excuse after investigations on past insured medical records are conducted.

4. Senior citizens are categorised as 'high risks' because 'illness' start to show upon retirement. Majority will have some hidden problems and the reasons for 1 and 2 above.

5. Premium wont be cheap even for basic plan because hospital charges are now expensive.

6. Premiums are reviewed every few years to match inflations.

7. Lastly, if one can afford for long term payment after approval, go ahead.

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post Oct 20 2022, 10:20 AM

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Be carefur of scammer agents who only interested to earn commission.

Social medias and forums are plenty with these people.

Better advise are from people who dont have vested interest. It doesnt matter is right or wrong but a pre 'alert' essay is your warning.

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post Oct 20 2022, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Oct 20 2022, 10:58 AM)
Do be careful in forums and social media as you'll tend to get "advice" from unqualified and unlicensed individuals who have never practiced insurance in Malaysia or is even qualified to advise. You should treat such advice as hearsay or unreliable as they've nothing to back them up whether in knowledge or actual job experience. (It's akin to asking medical advice other than from a Doctor; They'll probably tell you, just drink water will be a cure-all).

How to know if these people are not from the industry & are not professionals?
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Premium loadings and exclusion clauses are common with medical conditions or outright decline

- Incorrect, this is akin to generalize all insurance applied by old folks are 100% to get loadings & exclusions.

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Basic or cheap plan normally wont last long if there are claims when hospitalised for major surgery. In the end, patient have no choice but revert to public hospitals

- Utter nonsense, you have no idea what you're talking about.

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For some, those with 1mil coverage also wont have it easy with claims. Insurers have rejected claims for non or false declaration of health problems. Ignorance is no excuse after investigations on past insured medical records are conducted.

- You are supposed to make truthful declaration, this is not ignorance.

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Premium wont be cheap even for basic plan because hospital charges are now expensive.

- Again, you have no idea what you're talking about.
- After a long essay, provides 0 (zero) useful input or even a solution to the person's question, ends with "Can afford long term payment then [go ahead]". It's like telling a person if you think you can afford a Ferrari long term instalment, just go ahead lo.
- How is this even helpful?
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Independent advise from non vested interest are neither pro or against a purchase.

Is up to the person to decide after evaluating the proposal.

Wrong or right as stated earlier is buyer assessment.

One can say he is qualified without proof in forum !

And neither I claimed to be a qualified life planner or agent.

Just sharing a piece of useless info. One need balance in life assessment and not life balance assessment.

This post has been edited by mini orchard: Oct 20 2022, 03:27 PM
mini orchard
post Oct 25 2022, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(KenH0018 @ Oct 25 2022, 04:49 PM)
Hi, any best plan for below
Looking for medical around 1m per annum, critical illness

1. 35yo, male, indoor office job, non smoker, no history record

2. Baby 2yo, male
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Best plan is only best in the policy until the insured make a claim.
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post Nov 4 2022, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(killeralta @ Nov 4 2022, 11:12 AM)
Anybody face issue that both husband and wife cross buy life/medical insurance for each other but cannot claim tax because not buy under own name to insured own-self?
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Unless one spouse is not working, then the working spouse can claim for non working spouse.

If both are working, each spouse claim for own policy.

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post Nov 6 2022, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(blibala @ Nov 5 2022, 09:21 PM)
Checked with my agent few times and he just said submitted but i have not receive reply yet. eConnect still show same benefit same riders. I better call or go to GE when free. My agent no more keen to service me after i rejected him to upgrade many times.
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Is better to approach CS to resolve your issues.

Most agents reponsibility to his client is over after signing of contract. Be it insurance, property, car etc.

If at all he still helps his clients, is considered a bonus. He is not indebted to his clients forever.

One cont paying insurance premium not because he is helping the agent to earn his commission but more to cont the policy to enjoy the coverage.

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post Nov 8 2022, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(georgechang79 @ Nov 8 2022, 05:02 PM)
Need some advise on insurance for my child who diagnosed with minor Autism.

First have been rejected by AIA. Reason is because pre-matured baby -> leading to under developed speech and slow learning ability. Hence the Autism diagnosis. This leads to speech therapy, intervention class, Occupational Therapy and etc

The helpful doctors at GH have informed us we can register for OKU so we can get some rebate under Income Tax (ie 6k/ year) and opportunity to go to a suitable kindy or suitable school.

However I am informed that with OKU card registration, Insurance would not accept policy. Hence I would like to confirm if this is the case for Insurance company in Malaysia.

I am thankful for any helpful comment
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Even if your info is correct, is no harm to submit an application.

I have known other cases where insurers imposed high loadings or exclusion clauses and the applicants decided not to proceed.

Every insurer will have different underwriting policies.

QUOTE(ky118 @ Nov 8 2022, 05:23 PM)
I have a question regarding using cash bonus to pay premium for my Great Eastern life insurance. In the policy I have CASH BONUS ALLOCATION and CASH SURRENDER VALUE amount which I received on yearly basis. Currently I'm still paying the premium every year using credit card and the critical year is 15 years which is already over and I understand I can use the cash bonus to pay the premium.

If I decide to use cash bonus to pay my premium from year 2022 onwards, will this affect or reduce the amount for the CASH BONUS ALLOCATION and CASH SURRENDER VALUE for 2022 and thereafter?

Thank you.
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Any self sustaining policies will incurred interest and a reduction in the cash surrender value. Over the years, if there is no new premium payment, the balance of surrender value may not be enough to sustain the policy and it will lapse and insured will receive nothing or a minimal balance 'surrender' value.

If the insured have no need of the coverage is better to surrender it now and take out the cash value.

Every insured should do a review of their policies from time to time. Upgrading, downgrading or surrendar is normal.

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post Nov 8 2022, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(JOMMAKAN @ Nov 8 2022, 09:44 PM)
My company getting company for my wife and I, provides maternity and newborn benefit
but there’s a condition , can someone help to clarify this

IF PREGNANT UPON EROLLMENT, MATERNITY AND NEWBORN INFANT CARE BENEFIT IS SUBJECT TO 12 MONTH WAITING PERIOD
Active from 1 January 2023

thanks
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Not entitled to coverage during the 12 months from date of enrolment.
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post Nov 15 2022, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(donhay @ Nov 15 2022, 03:58 PM)
My child is 10yo now, what are the pros and cons for getting a education saving plan now?

I cannot decide. thanks
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Pro ... Money for education

Con.... Pay premium yearly, less spending money on other things

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post Nov 21 2022, 07:15 AM

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QUOTE(rocketm @ Nov 21 2022, 03:34 AM)
Hi, I have some questions about nominee/beneficiary and will for AIA insurance.

1. Can I appoint nominee or beneficiary for my AIA insurance in MyAIA portal?

2. What is the formula to calculate how much the appointed nominee or beneficiary will get when I passed away?

3, Who will get the insurance proceed when the stated name in the will for the same policy number is different with the appointed nominee or beneficiary?

4. When trustee (policyholder's wife) is selected, will this trustee receive the insurance proceed, just like nominee/beneficiary, when the policyholder passed away?
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2. You decide the portion during nomination, similar to epf. Generally, if nothing is mentioned, is deemed equal share ... same with property joint ownership.

3. Dont complicate matters for the living. Change the will and or nomination. The dead is gone, the living can go to court for an interpretation no matter which is right. Dont have to shed tears in grave.

4. That is the purpose of the trustee, to manage for the purpose specified.

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post Nov 21 2022, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(rocketm @ Nov 21 2022, 09:12 AM)
Thank you for your reply.

Question 2: I am referring to the formula such as Procced receive by the beneficiary (one person, 100%) = x + y + z +.....
so what is the x, y, z and etc

Question 4: I noticed my dad life insurance is putting my mum's name as trustee instead of beneficiary/nominee while my name is label as beneficiary for some life insurance. Just wonder will my mum has issue to receive the fund for that insurance when my dad is no longer with us (touch wood).
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2. Not sure of your question.

If is 100%, then he takes everything. Why formula ?

Can give some examples

Are you refering to different policies combined for beneficiary ?

4. There are many articles in the net on trustees, some contributed by insurer. Read there for further understanding.

In my opinion ... no.


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post Nov 30 2022, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 30 2022, 11:14 AM)
I am looking for medical card only without any ILP.. Requirements
1. Unlimited lifetime limit
2. Annual limit of RM500k-RM1m
3. Able to cover cost of single room i.e RM250-300
4. Able to buy online without any agent

I am open to AIA, Allianz, AXA, etiqa.
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Why post here when you can go online yourself ?

So you expecting the CEOs to response ?

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