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mini orchard
post Oct 3 2023, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Oct 3 2023, 10:48 AM)
See that is the thing that guides people to standalone....
Which may not be the right and holistic info required to make informed decisions
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Buyers are not stupid.
mini orchard
post Oct 3 2023, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Oct 3 2023, 10:51 AM)
But if the buyer only get one side info from here...
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Why are the agents here sleeping ?
mini orchard
post Oct 3 2023, 10:56 AM

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Until now, no agents came out to talk 😲
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post Oct 3 2023, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Oct 3 2023, 10:57 AM)
Perhaps, they see no point of arguing over it.
They are not obligated to reply or comment or argue over these.

If the potential buyer knows, ...they can PM them..
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mini orchard
post Oct 3 2023, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Oct 3 2023, 11:20 AM)
If the info is 1 sided?
Or info responded based on just abit of info provided by the info seeker?
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You keep repeating the same answer.

WHERE ARE AGENTS !!!!??
mini orchard
post Oct 3 2023, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(Rinth @ Oct 3 2023, 11:29 AM)
Then? who are the 1 sided info providers? can you express directly? everyone accompanies you merry go round already....

is my english too poor cannot understand or your english too chim?
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This guy is a confused person.
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post Oct 3 2023, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Oct 3 2023, 11:37 AM)
It is the "way" you say it......sometimes, some of it...
Ha ha..the words used....play a part too
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If the post is wrong, just counter it.

Nothing much to debate here.
mini orchard
post Oct 3 2023, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 3 2023, 07:45 PM)
Normal la. When you kacau people rice bowl, they feel threaten and assume that they are boss of this thread.

Only one person I know here who have trigger happy fingers. Lol
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Having mental issue should claim own medical insurance and seek treatment 🤣

Update ...

Triggered person reported again.

Waiting for him to show up here, if he dare.🤣

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post Oct 3 2023, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Oct 3 2023, 08:56 PM)
Seriously? So many agents here post their own contact in the signature. Wonder if they got reported for it.
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I have posted contacts in other threads when requested and having no issues.

I wonder why this thread is so special ?
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post Oct 3 2023, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(timeekit @ Oct 3 2023, 09:33 PM)
Hi Sifus,

Just want to clarify on the premium payment logic for this scenario.
Lets give the monthly premium as 100 and no additional increase when switching

Ali
- has existing medical plan (A) and want to switch to medical plan (B)
- He already paid 100 premium due for September month for A, and he switch to B on September as well
- To enforce B, upfront 2 months payment needed, hence September and October month cleared, and next due on November and December
- So for the year 2023, Ali will have paid 500 (5 months) of premium

Muthu
- has existing medical plan (A) and want to switch to medical plan (B)
- He already paid 100 premium due for September month for A, but he switch to B on October instead
- To enforce B, upfront 2 months payment needed, hence October and November month cleared, and next due on December
- So for the year 2023, Muthu will have paid 400 (4 months) of premium

With the above scenario, why would one switch on September when they can switch on October, where they will pay lesser total premium in year 2023.
Assuming we don't talk about the extra coverage by medical plan B, and medical plan A still covers the overall essential.
So isn't Ali paying "double" for essentially being covered the same for September month?

Appreciate your advise thanks !
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If one wants to buy any insurance, dont take too long to decide for when tomorrow comes, one may not qualify.

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post Oct 4 2023, 05:35 AM

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QUOTE(Moneylust @ Oct 4 2023, 02:12 AM)
Dear all,

I'm asking on behalf of a family member -  a health screening report done about 7 years ago noted that he has gallbladder polyps (below 10mm).  The doctor that went through the report with him didn't even deem the polyps worth mentioning and no further investigation was recommended or done.

Now in 2023, my family member is still alive and healthy and he's thinking of getting cancer insurance (no, he has not found an agent yet).

A search of the internet found that gallbladder polyps are quite common and, in most cases, non-cancerous.

So I hope the insurance agents and other forumers here can advise:
1. must my family member declare the gallbladder polyps when answering the insurance proposal form?
2. what is your insurance company's policy/your experience with clients when at comes to gallbladder polyps - reject coverage outright, impose loading or exclusion, ask for a new health screening with company's panel hospital or accept/give coverage with no extra conditions?

Thank you in advance.
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Irrespective of what the doctors or internet mentioned, generally no insurer would want to take zero risk on any known 'illness'. Is like giving out free claims for 'peanut' premium.

You won't receive a straight answer here as all will said 'depends' and I suggest applying to all insurers in town and from there you will know the stand of each insurer regarding their risk appetite.

That is the time where the insurer will squeeze more juice from the customer ... from premium loading to exclusion or outright rejection. Is like telling the customer ... is your fault because you didn't buy early.

And normally when one sign any application form, there is this little square box where customers declare that .... I tell the whole truth.

Making a false declaration is voiding the contract and don't fault the insurer then.

BTW, if you requires some agents referral, do update so that I can published further contacts here. And I mentioned again ... I do it ONLY upon request and not like one or two agents here waiting like a vultures sleeping next to a mortuary waiting to claim a dead body 😂

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post Oct 4 2023, 05:49 AM

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QUOTE(SnowWhiteTan @ Oct 4 2023, 01:43 AM)
My insurance company suddenly sent a notice saying that my premium is increased by rm80 a month... is that common?
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Is starting to be normal now and you should be receiving the notice once every few years till you 'surrender' the policy.

Cost of doing any business is expensive now. You want a pay rise yearly so are the doctors and your agent 😂

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post Oct 4 2023, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(Moneylust @ Oct 4 2023, 02:12 AM)
Dear all,

I'm asking on behalf of a family member -  a health screening report done about 7 years ago noted that he has gallbladder polyps (below 10mm).  The doctor that went through the report with him didn't even deem the polyps worth mentioning and no further investigation was recommended or done.

Now in 2023, my family member is still alive and healthy and he's thinking of getting cancer insurance (no, he has not found an agent yet).

A search of the internet found that gallbladder polyps are quite common and, in most cases, non-cancerous.

So I hope the insurance agents and other forumers here can advise:
1. must my family member declare the gallbladder polyps when answering the insurance proposal form?
2. what is your insurance company's policy/your experience with clients when at comes to gallbladder polyps - reject coverage outright, impose loading or exclusion, ask for a new health screening with company's panel hospital or accept/give coverage with no extra conditions?

Thank you in advance.
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I will share with you my real life experience why declaring any known illness is important.

I had an old policy which is pay first claim later. I did a colonoscopy in PPUM and submitted my claim which was eventually approved after one week.

Upon the doctor advised, I did another test around the sixth year and everything was good.

As I wanted a medical card to ease admission seeing the increasing medical cost, I decided to purchase another policy and declared my past record.

As expected, anything to do with the colon admission will be excluded from a claim.

Luckily, I still have my old policy in hand.
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post Oct 4 2023, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 4 2023, 10:12 AM)
Even with your colonscope report showing all clear?
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The insurer is not interested in the report. Not even asking me to go for second opinion with their panel doctors.

Is take it or go so where else.

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post Oct 4 2023, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 4 2023, 10:23 AM)
Eh? Can appeal la do that cover colon. Whether they approve is another question. You got your report what.

Like me I upload all my recent medical checkup and there was nothing on it is they approve my application.

If it's me, I will fight and appeal. Just try your luck. You never know.
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Since I have an existing policy, I didn't pursue it. My purpose is the medical card for easier admission.
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post Oct 4 2023, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(Rinth @ Oct 4 2023, 10:45 AM)
i dun get this......

Assuming i'm healthy 10 years ago and bought GE plan....now 10 years later assuming i have some illness example high blood pressure....the GE plan will still cover high blood pressure related illness right? because when i bought 10 years ago i'm healthy....

Now if i surrender the GE plan and buy new plan example AIA, then i declare i got high blood pressure, the AIA plan will not cover high blood pressure related illness... then why i want to surrender my GE plan?

right? or i understand wrongly?
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Only few forumers are willing to share info here while one or two will just leave an opened ended answers for personal consultations 😂

1. If you can and willing to self insured for the exclusion clauses, go ahead to cancel.

2. If you cannot afford paying two premiums, then is only logical to cancel the old.

3. If the benefits of the new out weigh the old for other illness, then cancel the old.

4. Older policies are specific in claims compared to new.
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post Oct 4 2023, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(WaCKy-Angel @ Oct 4 2023, 02:10 PM)
Deductible can nego? I thought its fixed, some companies ficed RM300 or 10% of total payable.

But wouldnt it be cheaper to cancel old policy and buy only 1?
Unless u have pre-existing condition.
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It can be any figure and not limited to those two. Some called it co-insure. Non nego. Just select a predetermined figure.

I have one policy with 3k deductible and another pay first claim later.

The deductible I will claim from the pay first claim later policy.

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post Oct 4 2023, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(Light531 @ Oct 4 2023, 05:37 PM)
Hi everyone, I need some advice here.

24M here, I bought ILP GE from a friend of mine 5 years ago. Recently the price hike from 200 to 260. I'm thinking of switching to medical only which might cost less than 100. Should I do it? Is there anything i should consider before making a switch? Should I also switch to other provider? Thanks for any insights!
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QUOTE(Light531 @ Oct 4 2023, 05:58 PM)
A little about my background, I bought the plan because initially I was told that the price was fixed at 200 and any price increase will be cover by the interest generate by the investment part of the plan. And recently I came to learn that it is not true. So I might as well check out whether there is a more suitable plan for me with a lower cost and only necessary coverage for me.
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If you do not wished for premium surprises in your current policy, you can opt for another policy type.

Attached is a sample premium payable table. If you don't understand, you can ask here.

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QUOTE(timeekit @ Oct 4 2023, 08:43 PM)
Hi Sifus,

Just wondering if contracting Dengue / Covid etc , these kind of viral infection need to disclose to company?
Will it impact the medical policy plan ? eg like i contract covid before, so if i change new plan will they still cover or exclude covid coverage.

Thanks in advance !
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Is advisable or shall say mandatory to disclose what you know to the best of your knowledge.

Reason ... you will have a good sleep everynite. 😀
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post Oct 4 2023, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(Light531 @ Oct 4 2023, 09:15 PM)
Can you elaborate more on other policy type? and the table meaning? Thanks
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This a traditional standalone plan or as a rider to a basic policy.

The premium is charged according to you age. If your age reaches the next band, that will be your next premium payment. No surprises. You can plan your budget.

Generally, the older you get, it is deemed you will have more 'problem' and the risk to insure you is higher, hence the higher premium.

You must remember to pay the premium on due date otherwise it will lapsed. Normally the insurer will send you a reminder which I received every year.

If you are worried and wants hassle free, then you can opt for auto debit.

The MM150, 200 etc are the coverage selection.

Hope this will give you a head start for a discussion with any agent.

REMEMBER THOU .... INSURANCE IS FOR PROTECTION AND NOT AN INVESTMENT. If you understand the statement, then you should know what to buy.

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