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Sos cili cap lingam.

BE THE TOP, BUT still there will be lot of ppl sandwiched under the entitled and undeserved...

the hardworking ones will grow tired to be honest

Bumi ni milik siapa

too long. nobody will read

New Economy Policy

👍

I wish I can write so well. 😊

Need to learn history bodo

Summarize it please...

Jibby Bossku needs to respond to NEP reference

I don’t waste time reading articles on racial equality written by non Malays. It’s the same thing repeated over and over again and it makes no difference what the nons think. Only the malay opinion matters when it comes to bringing about change.

I read it.
Well written.

We aren't all club wielding Neanderthals here.

it's called democracy... aka 人多欺负人少

If you are not born as orang kito, at least be a datuk. Otherwise, tak yah nak kaya di bumi ini milk siapa.

Good read. Very daring for the author to be publishing these hard hitting facts, that Malaysia has been paying the price for, and will continue to pay the price until the country is bankrupt.

Some highlights / summary:

"There are three systems of privileges that are operating in Malaysia: race, religion and titles. "

"Let me deal with race and religion first, which by design, have fractured Malaysian society and created a system of privileges that is hard to justify"

"As it is, the privileges of race and religion have elevated mediocre minds to where they can tell the rest of society what it can and cannot do."

"It is primarily to safeguard these privileges that Malaysia has been unwilling to sign up to some very basic international conventions on human rights"

"The New Economic Policy was misguided. Instead of focusing on economic need, it decided to focus on race."

"So, in Malaysia, the definition of success is the type and number of titles attached to your name rather than the real effort you have put into achieving professional and economic success."

"It has led to sycophantic behavior among the population with frequent chanting of “Datuk, Dato Seri, Tan Sri, etc.” at any function or event. More insidiously, it has created a culture of subservience and unquestioning obedience to people with titles, even when witnessing their misdeeds and criminal acts."

"Why are politicians showered with titles when they are clearly failing in their responsibilities to the rakyat that elected them?"

"It is a common perception in Malaysia that there are two sets of rules in the country: there is a harsher set that applies to ordinary citizens and a more lenient set that applies to people with titles."

"Is it any wonder then that even with so many people with titles among us we are still climbing the rankings of global corruption charts?"

"It is unsustainable when a large class of people demand privileged access to the resources of an economy."

"Over the long term, a sustained “depopulation” by talent fleeing the country will have only one outcome – the rise of mediocrity leading to a mediocre society and mediocre economic outcomes."

"indeed, it has exacted a heavy toll on the Malaysian economy."

"We are no longer providing a vision of progress but rather trying to explain away our under-achievement."

This post has been edited by phantomash: Jan 28 2021, 07:30 PM

Tldr currybun je la write so long for what

Good write-up from Sukhdave Singh.

The fact he rose to such a high position in Malaysia despite being non-Malay is a testament to how capable he is.

A Singh write got use mieh? Ask Oren kito right only got power la

Ohhh the england so gooding!

I just had orgasm lel

Good write up, it's indicative of the inherent systemic privilege that was started and now can no longer be removed without a fundamental rebuild.

That is if the majority benefiting from it would even want it gone, despite the fact it's burning the foundations and crippling future generations.

TLDR : just another article of non's contribution not getting acknowledged

Tldr... just read the beginning, seems like everything that we already know. Nothing new or any insight.

Everyone know what wrong with this country, what we need to do to rise up..

But no one wanna do it... Everyone have their own agenda

Sukudhew (Sukhdave) Singh
Former Deputy Governor, Central Bank of Malaysia | Former Independent Director, Khazanah Nasional Berhad
There are three systems of privileges that are operating in Malaysia: race, religion and titles. All of them are intended to confer privileges to certain groups and come with exclusive economic benefits for those who are favored by these systems.

There is no problem with earned or deserved privilege because such privilege is based on a significant contribution to society and the economy. Such privilege is justifiable given the contribution to the greater good. Also, extreme inequality never benefits a society and cannot be justified. Therefore, extending certain privileges that would enable the economically disadvantaged groups in a society to progress and make a better living are also justifiable. What is not justifiable is when the system of privileges is abused, as is clearly the case in Malaysia, and unearned and undeserved privileges are bestowed. There are social and economic costs to any privilege system and the abuse of these systems only increases those costs.

The Privileges of Race and Religion

Let me deal with race and religion first, which by design, have fractured Malaysian society and created a system of privileges that is hard to justify. Let me illustrate with a couple of examples:

When a Malay tycoon can buy a string of houses in Malaysia at discounted prices while middle income non-Malays have to pay full prices to buy their family homes (effectively subsidizing the tycoon), such discriminatory and unwarranted privilege is justified by a system of privileges related to race.

When a Muslim man can walk into a supermarket and demand that it removes the section containing the “non-halal” products consumed by non-Muslims, there is a religious privilege system that is empowering such inconsiderate and uncouth behavior and its associated belief that the customs and practices of one part of society supersede those of the others.

Race and religion have been used to enshrine a privilege system that has created different classes of citizens in the country. Political shenanigans like the large-scale giving of blue ICs to foreigners in Sabah have elevated those foreigners, because of their religion, to enjoy privileges that are denied to other long-standing citizens of the country. When race and religion are the determinants of privilege, merit has a much smaller role in society and in the allocation of economic opportunities.

As it is, the privileges of race and religion have elevated mediocre minds to where they can tell the rest of society what it can and cannot do. The privileges of race and religion have lifted unqualified and incompetent individuals into positions of leadership. The privileges of race and religion have provided opportunities for individuals to enrich themselves through dishonest means, to betray public trust, to loot public funds – all with impunity. The privileges of race and religion have legitimized rent-seeking as an economic activity. The privileges of race and religion have allowed exclusive access to economic resources through institutionalized discrimination. It is primarily to safeguard these privileges that Malaysia has been unwilling to sign up to some very basic international conventions on human rights, including the International Conven­tion on Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination (ICERD), International Convention on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR), and Inter­national Convention on Eco­nomic, Social and Cultural Rights (ICESCR).

The New Economic Policy was misguided. Instead of focusing on economic need, it decided to focus on race. Had it focused on economic need, it would have achieved superior outcomes in reducing all forms of economic inequality, it would have led to far less distortionary policies, and it would not have entailed the massive waste of taxpayers’ funds. Most important of all, it would have cemented a Malaysian identity where all citizens in need are treated equally. By making the NEP race-based, it has allowed unscrupulous individuals to hijack the benefits to enrich themselves while enacting self-preserving policies that are definitely not in the interest of the Malaysian economy, and may not even be in the interest of those that the NEP was supposed to help.

I am very pessimistic that the Malaysian economy will ever be unshackled from the fetters of the NEP. It has proved to be too profitable for those who have hijacked its benefits and a large deluded sector of our society continues to be fed the narrative of “us against them,” that has been the foundation of such policies. This means that the economic distortions created by these policies will continue to undermine the Malaysian economy at a time when the global competitiveness of the Malaysian economy is being challenged as it never has been before. It is a burden of privilege that the Malaysian economy can ill-afford.

The privileges of Titles

I have nothing against titles and I do believe that a well-managed system of awards can help better society and the economy by recognizing and highlighting individuals with outstanding character that have done great service to the society and country. It provides a beacon for the rest of society by highlighting the behaviors and values we want to encourage. Regrettably, this is not the case with Malaysia’s system of titles. There are certainly deserving individuals who have served the country and continue to do so even today and I personally know a few of them. However, they are just a few drops in a bucket full of title holders for whom no one can tell why they carry the titles they do.

It is the consequences of profligate and undeserved privileges of titles that worry me, certainly due to the effect on the economy, but also in terms of the type of society we have become. Let me mention a few personal experiences:

I recall when I was a deputy governor at the Central Bank, people who did not know me will often call me “Datuk”, implying a safe assumption that anyone in my position must have that title. When I went to meetings in Putrajaya, some staff there will invariably refer to me as “Datuk.” At first, I tried to correct them but after a while I gave up and so I was often a “Datuk” without the title ever having been conferred upon me.

On other occasions, someone will call me “Datuk”, and when I told them that I was not, the consistent response was to try to console me with words like: “Don’t worry. Your time will come. I am sure that your contributions to the nation will be recognized.” They seemed to be embarrassed for me. Nobody ever asked me if I wanted a title in the first place. It was just assumed that I did, and the fact that I did not have one, was a matter of embarrassment.

I also recall experiences at dinners and functions where someone will introduce themselves in this way: “Good evening, I am X,” and then leaning closer as if sharing a secret, “That is, Datuk/Dato/etc. X.” I presume that these individuals were trying to impress me with their modesty by not announcing their titles out loud, but yet not too modestly in still wanting me to know that they had a title.

So, in Malaysia, the definition of success is the type and number of titles attached to your name rather than the real effort you have put into achieving professional and economic success. Even an unsuccessful business person with a title can be seen as successful. Successful businessmen/women and professionals are unsatisfied unless that success is complemented with a title. The likes of Elon Musk and Steve Jobs will be nothing in Malaysia unless they have a "Tan Sri" attached to their name. It has perpetuated and exacerbated the high level of hypocrisy that we see in our society. For example, individuals who have no problem accepting a title, or have put great effort and expense into obtaining one, then make a great public show of not using that title in a false display of modesty. Individuals who claim to be religious and to be “man of god” show no hesitation in embellishing their names with “earthly” titles. It has led to sycophantic behavior among the population with frequent chanting of “Datuk, Dato Seri, Tan Sri, etc.” at any function or event. More insidiously, it has created a culture of subservience and unquestioning obedience to people with titles, even when witnessing their misdeeds and criminal acts.

From a broader societal and economic perspective, it is worth asking if these titles incentivize individuals to great achievements and whether they are a recognition of such achievements. My sense is that they are neither. Let me illustrate with a few examples.

Why should civil servants with guaranteed incomes and lifetime employment, and guaranteed pensions upon retirement, need to be rewarded with titles? What outstanding service beyond the call of duty is being recognized? Why are politicians showered with titles when they are clearly failing in their responsibilities to the rakyat that elected them? Why should businessmen who have done nothing but enrich themselves be given titles? What societal achievement of theirs is being recognized? Why do academics have titles? Have they published academic work that has brought global renown? Have they produced outstanding students that are the pride of the nation? What is exactly the merit that is being recognized? Does anyone know? So, when there are so many individuals walking around with titles and no one can say why they got them, how can such a system be the basis of recognizing and inspiring great achievement?

No one can deny the proliferation of titles in our country, and if they were indeed all based on merit, we are truly blessed to have so many meritorious people among us. We should be one of the top performing economies in the world and our society should be the envy of the world. But we are not the top performing economy and our society is not the envy of the world.

What the proliferation of titles has done is to create a caste-like system of social and economic hierarchy. If you do not believe that, just attend any official function and listen to the speaker rattle of a long hierarchy of titles of attendees, and only at the bottom of the ladder will come “tuan-tuan dan puan-puan” or “ladies and gentlemen.” It is a system that has a clearly defined hierarchy and differentiation based on your title and where you got it from. You may joke about the large number of people in Malaysia with titles, but jokes aside, what it also means is that we have a large vested interest group with a strong interest in defending and perpetuating the system. As with any caste system, the underlying rational is always economic. It is not the only reason (ego and status are also part of it), but it is the key reason. People primarily want titles because of the economic benefits that are presumed to flow from them. This has had the sad outcome of making us a superficial society. Instead of seeking fame through real accomplishments, many are fixated with getting a title, and hoping to achieve fame and fortune through that.

It is a common perception in Malaysia that there are two sets of rules in the country: there is a harsher set that applies to ordinary citizens and a more lenient set that applies to people with titles. If this was not apparent before, numerous incidents during the current pandemic should have made this fact very clear. Titles have also created a sense of entitlement and over-inflated egos. The social media is rife with examples of people with titles behaving in an uncouth and brutish manner in their dealings with ordinary people. It is the same sense of entitlement that makes some think that they can take what is not rightfully theirs. Reflect on the major corporate, political and financial scandals in our country. More likely than not, a person with a title, or often a group of people with titles, were at the heart of these scandals and breaches of public trust. Is it any wonder then that even with so many people with titles among us we are still climbing the rankings of global corruption charts?

The caste-system of titles has, in my view, worked against creating a dynamic competitive economy and has added to the inequality of economic benefits and opportunities that exist in our society.

The Burden of Privilege on the Economy is Heavy

It is unsustainable when a large class of people demand privileged access to the resources of an economy. The largest burden always falls on those who are excluded from these privileges. Great societies have fallen into decay when the excesses of the privileged class behaving in an opportunistic manner created an unbearable burden on the economy and intolerable misery on ordinary citizens. Only last week I was reading about the decline of some Mayan cities. In these civilizations, the size of the ruling class and elites swelled in size with each generation to the extent that the elite become increasingly parasitic as they hogged an ever-increasing share of resources. While the kings and nobles were busy enriching themselves, competing with each other, the peasants and lower classes had to work harder and harder to provide for the ever-increasing demands of the elite while they themselves suffered from hunger and deprivation. The consequent depopulation of the cities was further motivated by the environmental degradation (deforestation, erosion and soil exhaustion) that resulted from the increasing demands of the privileged class.

To Malaysians, this story should have some ring of familiarity. Today, we are similarly seeing our large class of “nobles” fighting among themselves for a share of the slower-growing wealth of the country. The ordinary citizens are bystanders watching this spectacle even as their lives become harder. Talk about GDP growth is meaningless if the fruits of that growth are captured by the privileged class while the rest of the population see their standards of living stagnate, experiencing very little of the benefits of that growth. Like the Mayans, we are also seeing environmental degradation all around us to feed the rapacious appetite of our “nobles.” We are seeing an ongoing “depopulation” in the form of a brain drain of those unwilling to waste their talents in a system where the odds are stacked against them and when there are better opportunities outside the country. We cheer when Malaysians who have made other countries their homes are recognized for their achievements, but feel no shame and do not weep for similar talent at home that is being wasted away because our privilege systems deny them opportunities. Over the long term, a sustained “depopulation” by talent fleeing the country will have only one outcome – the rise of mediocrity leading to a mediocre society and mediocre economic outcomes.

Unearned privilege based on race, religion and titles has transformed our society in a negative manner. It has corroded our value systems (with widening divergence between what we profess and what we practice). It has legitimized rent-seeking. It has given the loudest voice to mediocrity. It has calcified economic inequality. It has weakened us economically; indeed, it has exacted a heavy toll on the Malaysian economy. This is nowhere more evident than when those in power start comparing Malaysia not to countries that are better than us but to those that are worse than us. We are no longer providing a vision of progress but rather trying to explain away our under-achievement. It is an open admission that the Malaysian economy has a problem and that it is not advancing competitively.

The question now is whether Malaysia can overcome its addiction to privilege and reset the economy on the right path? I doubt it, but I would be happy to be proven wrong.

This article is well written. However it is too long. We can discuss until the cows come home. Nothing would change so long as the majority continue to be brainwashed (not educated). However one thing is certain---No great country was ever built based on quota and mediocrity in history, then and now plus in future.

Who?

Wilson Low will orgasm why he couldnt get a job.

Finally, a rare linkedin post that actually have value

Some VVIP said NONS are all MONOPOLISING the imports of MEAT

Some Minister then CONFIRMED 60% of all AP for MEATS are given to Malay VVIPS


Outsyedthebox said these APs are useless and their only objective is a monopoly for the VERY WEALTHY Malays to make more money . He further said ordinary malays already know how to do import / export so these APs should no longer be in place ------- as it only contributes to the price of the product going up and UP year after year .


Just imagine ---- a Minsiter have to LIE that all the meat imports are monopolised by NONS when in actual reality the opposite is the REAL scenario

This post has been edited by helpful: Jan 28 2021, 09:51 PM

Dont worry its all in English

Bernama, BH, Sinar, Utus!n, Kosmo wont bother to publish in BM

well we can remove it forcefully like Indonesia & PRC did.
it won't be pretty either.it resulted in rupiah getting 3 extra zero at the back of their currency. and even then a new feudal class would be borned anyway like in CCP & pinoy. even in Korea helang still exists and get away with almost everything.

of course it's great to have social equality. but then again such a concept is more angmoh specific, and Asian society is still feudalistic, laoban, boss & chaebol would always be helang because pipit allowed it.

unless we can do massive wealth redistribution like nordic countries did.but then again even pipit mengaku diri helang here would be against it.

Msia makin helang and pipit, gonna end up caste system like India, unsustainable...

Bold, i wonder how much shit he would have gotten had he posted that in facebook or twitter.

Sad to say, these post are all lppl. If puak M dont do anything, nothing anyone say or post can do. Malaysia will just keep regressing until it is forgotten. The capable ones will just move and find another place to call home.

But linkin onty thinks she is the best.

You guys think Malays don't know their policies are discriminating?

Of course they know. They just don't care.

This is why I never believe any Malay person who preaches that Islam practices equality.

AP are tool mamak created to reward key of power.
thus the numbers of AP are restricted to make it ' valuable'

last time under Najib meat or any agricultural related AP are pretty easy to get.

so the reason meat was expensive never about restricted supply it's more towards ringgit becoming GG because some idiots sapok mamak to destabilize the country.

and people like you is the exact reason mamak do it in the first place. rather than solving problem u rather play victim racing card. u never blame mamak but u just go around play us vs them in the most racing way possible. u never see individual but u see skin color. u know who benefits from all this? yes,.mamak & the gang.



so congratulations your idiots mamak tools.

They are smart. They know privileges = power. With power, you can take money and buy your own happiness

Why blame me ? Its all UMNO isn't it

I believe you are strong UMNO supporter right

far as I know all my malay relatives are all ex Umno now

Me read twice. You wrong again

Sendiri bodoh tak erti baca tak usah cakap org lain tak erti baca.

It is not about the racial equality.

It is about malaysia wont have long term survivor just like the gone case Maya.

Of course, who would complain about a system put in place that is beneficial to them?

The problem highlighted is, they should care, otherwise Malaysia is going down the drains, and soon the Malays and their kids cant even reap a single sen out of the system that is created to give them tongkats.

that's the problem when people decided to do political seperatism like the algerian french did in france. it make it easy for french not to care for them.

u can't force people to assimilate and people who didn't want to asimilasi will have a parallel existence where they want different things do different things then the mainstream wants.

when ahmad decided to turn french into a caliphate it's then becum a problem. it's turned from not carring to enemy of the nation.

and the only reason they care now is because the algerian are killing them. and it not like they are trying hard to fold them to mainstream french society or something. more like putting them under surveillance mostly.

modern nation are afterall borned out of the idea of Nation state and thus it couldn't deal with the idea of multinationalism.

this is a video of a billionaire telling poorfag that's it's a bad idea to give them more money but instead let just have the helang have all the money or else negara bankrup.

facts is
you are not an independent party
such a chance benefits you greatly
you threaten bankrupt to scare off pipu to do what you wanted

who going to belip you?

Padu beb

Well, all of this thanks to our lord and saviour Madey.

Some sei sohai still pray him to come back to become PM.

Hence, as Sukhdave also said, he doubts anything will change.

As much as the system discriminates against me and my family, i believe others like me will still be able to weather through it, that’s what years of discrimination taught us. And to be honest, it’s not all that bad for some of us.

The problem though, is this land that your people like to claim as rightfully theirs, might not do too well after years of such an abusive system in place. And when it gets worse, who would you blame? Your people? Or the ‘pendatangs’?

This post has been edited by borgeouisbella: Jan 28 2021, 10:36 PM

halo polis,.. ini menghina melayu dan islam,..

Sukdave also suk BN dick b4?

if NEP is successful ...long time ago sudah maju lo....but looking at today is not going up....is going down

pros and cons la....the up malay getting richer lo...the average/poor wil be poorer

the minority cont strive day to day....so its a balance

Lol it's been a feudal system here since forever la.
As if the aristocracy care of the Malay off the street. If we hadn't been colonized there would still be hamba system.

yalor,.. JWW Birch wanna free malay slave, kena killed by Maharajalela the slave master,.. no good deed go unpunished,.. the slave liberator become villain,.. the slave master become hero,..

Even if only 1% of Non-bumi involved with meat business, it can still become a scrap goat by irresponsible parties.

Look at zimbabwe. What they gonna do is forcefully take the minorities assets and drive them away. Then run these assets go the ground coz they are unqualified to run it.

In the end they are Zimbabwean trillionaires lol

This post has been edited by chickenshit36: Jan 28 2021, 11:27 PM

yup nothing will change because no one wants change.

the things is it is "theirs" as in the nation. a nation is just that an ideological man-made construct.

there's nothing stopping anyone be it mamakthir or Johari Khir or Jamilah or even Elbeit Liew Nor Elizabeth Tan to entered a 'nation' as long as as SG constitution state they see themselves as such nation and are accepted by society as such.

LKY spend his whole lifetime telling that malaysia want to be a malay nation. just like NZ is a mori nation or israel is a jew nation, while India want to be a hindu nation. the idea is the jewness,hinduness & malayness is the foundation block of said nation culture, lhe whole jawi episode already confirmed that assimilation isn't possible at all. a lot still subscribe to the ideology of political seperatism.

the whole thing would end the moment political seperatism ended. no one afterall discriminate against mamakthir even if he's genetically indian no one ever said balik Cina lah at dauglas lim. but since a sizeable numbers didn't want it to end thus it won't.

unfortunately multinationalism isn't a viable alternative either. belgium is the only country that does that and they are undecided, unable to do anything other than selling off their sovereignty to the 4th Reich so they themselves don't need to decide anything.

for now the biggest risk in MY is undeciciveness.mau GST x mau GST? mau jilat CCP or mau jilat murica? grow economy by relying on MNC.or increase local industry efficiency? high taxes low social security or the opposite? at the same time we should increase efficiency by removing privileged

but seperatism pretty much mean we can't do both

To be fair, the rakyat did want a change in government back in 2018. That was like a start of new Malaysia.

But the Sheraton Move really jialat.

Maybe next GE can try again. Good Luck!!!

This post has been edited by Oklahoma: Jan 29 2021, 12:23 AM

That’s because mamakthir is of mixed parentage and Malays are generally more accepting of a Muslim than a non-Muslim. The problem isn’t so much of assimilating with the Malay, but rather to be Muslim.

To be honest, alot of the Malay identity has already been eradicated through islamisation in the 1990s anyway. I say this as someone with peranakan roots, and I’m darn glad back then marriages back then did not enforce religious conversions, because i would be miserable being bounded by religious law. However, because of this i’m not bumiputera, and I’m fine keeping it that way if it means keeping my freedom of religion.

Anyway, I like to believe the political system wasnt as bad as pre-mamakthir. I was still a kid back then, but it seems alot of the political issues we see today can be traced back to the policies he made when he was in power.

Therefore, one can only pray that someone can take draconian measures to ensure things will be set back on track. Will it get worse? Yes, for awhile. But eventually, things will get better in the long run.

the purpose of ex BNM writing the opinion piece isn't to 'liberate' he is still a helang, he's not even nice helang, his name do comes up in some blogs for Shaddy dealing after all.

it's likely to solve the middle income trap issues. afterall we just a wee bit more to go to escape it. since FDI aren't coming due to instability. and the pandemic itself had pretty much kills off much incompetent business and jobs. just a wee bit more efficiency and we will get there.

like I said, we have 2 problem. inability to decide and the very low efficiency due to lack of competition. he's writing it in a style to invoke racing to make what he wants a reality. lack of competition is important because it mean we aren't efficient nor innovative. just look at all the taxi driver,mas & ktmb union, mydin owners, AP king want to reduce AP numbers, private clinic owners benci klinik 1 Malaysia. every fucuking One all asking gov to kill off their competitor rather than be efficient, innovative or whatever.

telling people what others can and cannot do also distorted the market. basically nothing an owner can do again society pressuring others not to consume their products. other than playing the stupid nationalistic racing game as well that is.

this is on top of Inefficiency due to subsidies. be it fuel, electric,water, rapid transit, trains, roads, highway. everyone of those distorted the efficiency of the market.



as for Mahathir. well he was a dictators. just like every other dictators except for LKY they traded easy life for citizens in exchange for obedience.we pretty much was fucked up even today due to it. he was really smart as he quit the oil well run dry, forcing the problem to subsequent gov who try to liberalised to solve issue he himself created only for him to took advantage of the public displeasure of liberalisation to destabilise gov after gov. heck he even destabilise his own gov 1 years ago. hes a freaking dick.

but I won't blame him for Islamisation. in fact he tried his best to preserve secularism. JAKIM is shitty but it still better than whatever PAS want. as a graduate of UIA. I won't even called it Islamisation it's not even fundemantalism it's basically hardliners arab totalitarian salafism. washed with oil money & nothing to do they export it by funding Islamic movement worldwide and PAS was a receiptance of such fund. such harsh ideology are somewhat very popular in non well of area particularly the ghetto of Paris, slums of India and jeng.jeng.jeng former siamese vessel state who then being ignore by the british afterwards being administer by liberal secularist westernise Malay who again like everyone else just let them stay poor.

the 'old' straits Malay are still there,islamic law are rarely impose on the west coast after all. an assimilate but non muslim will never get accepted by the Taliban, i mean even me myself won't get to win their heart. during uni the way they treated me i know deep in their hearts I'm not one of them. why do you think people even malay in k/ like to make fun of wannie state?

Well, malaysia still good for the non if u r cunning. Bumi usually r less hardworking & brainy than non. If u exploit that, u still can earn big. Then migrate elsewhere after u earn enough

Thanks to thanos who perfected the system

Time to seize the meme of production.

My non bumi brothers, this is not about meleis or cainis or yindian. This is how privileged people take advantages of us.

Many people blame the stupid melei who vote and worship corrupt leader but how to blame them? They are just poor people trying hard to meet daily needs.

If the leaders offer food stamps and donation, how can you blame them to be swayed by those things?

I am a Malay. I dont have the connections or titles. I struggle as you guys struggle. If I see a hardworking man, he is hardworking no matter his background is.

My voice is 1 of 1 millions buzzing bee and wasp. I cant do much in general term but I will do my part, little or small.

P/s: Malaysia is for Malaysian. Dont give up on the country yet. Gomen can change but we are still this country legal citizen.

wow

Lol. This dude also still blind of the fact. Those 3 means nothing still.

The one and only that matters is connection. Its supercede ur religion, race and title.

Only small fries fight about those 3. Top 100 riches in Malaysia dont even care about those

Race and religious is to divide us. Deswai every now and then must kacau religion and race.

The more we are divided, the more bs they can get away.

Tipoo all the way..tipoo is life
Lol.
Jk..

You're generalising.. I did and so did some others
Guess u dare tell the author this on his face?
Even without the move, the previous budget accommodated the privilege, no?

this guy sounds like a good companion for teh tarik session

Connections usually lead back to titles.

This post has been edited by Asquith: Jan 29 2021, 08:22 AM

Not tipu la, just work more by exploting the loophole

This post has been edited by aldaris: Jan 29 2021, 08:48 AM

you cant change everything in 1 day.

The 2018 election was a good start, but failed spectacularly by some defectors.

Hopefully can change again 2023.

This post has been edited by Oklahoma: Jan 29 2021, 09:35 AM

I’m sure anyone who has managed to work their way all the way up there is not without some form of corruption. That’s the way its done in Malaysia anyway.

However, I believe that one of the issues that the article highlighted is about how unsustainable NEP is. I’ve heard alot of stories of friends who studied in UK (sponsored by own parents), sees alot of government sponsored students studying in UK/Australia who are supposedly from rich families. Why are they there on scholarship when they are wealthy enough to get there on their own? What about the other underprivileged bumiputeras? What’s worse is, there is no such assistance for the underprivileged non-bumis.

Then comes the protest against the removal of NEP. How much is enough? If 30% bumi market share is not enough, then do you mean we need to wait until all the bumis are no longer B40, and whats left in the B40s are all the non-bumis? Do you think that’s going to happen? There will still be B40 bumis, regardless. The fact that there are more poor bumiputeras now is because there is literally 60% of you guys, and only 30%+- of us, so it definitely makes sense in terms of ratio, just like how there are more T20 bumis than T20 non-bumis. But the sad thing is, nobody bothers to make this logical comparison. Especially the uneducated masses who thinks that this is their right and their land, and if the non-bumis dont like it, we can leave.

This system is unsustainable, they can continue milking it, but do you think it will work out well in the long run? Investors are already moving elsewhere because of our policies thats creates such an uncompetitive environment. Uncompetitiveness breeds complacency, which kills innovation and motivation, which we can see it happening already. This is the result of such policies created for the majority.

We have alot of issues. There are many white elephants in the room that nobody wants to address. I believe Najib made some right decisions back then, unfortunately for him that he married a landwhale and was conned by Jho Low, otherwise things might not be so bad. Well, technically Muhyiddin can remove NEP, sign ICERD, reinstate GST, and set the course back on the right track now right now if he wanted, without anyone to contest, but he will never do it because he is a pro-Malay leader. And as much as I want to like Muhyiddin, I don’t like the ppl he sleeps with (aka PAS) and that he created a bumi only governnent.

Anyway, good insights from your part. Some parts were obvious but some parts were new to me.

This post has been edited by borgeouisbella: Jan 29 2021, 10:02 AM

For a long time, MY is addicted to privilage... and since Jibby hand, they are also addicted to handouts... so we are going to have generations of people who are entitled AF and addicted to handouts....

So future politics will only play to these, and not for the betterment of MY. gg.com

Awesome writeup. But I fear its useless when you have people like seriosekitt3h who believes marginalizing certain groups of malaysian citizens based on race is essential in the name of "fairness". Who believes "racial/religious unity" is achieved not by fair & equitable treatment but by discriminating certain segments of population. Who believes affirmative action policies should be community based and granted to everyone in that particular community irrespective rich or poor.
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/5054146

Very true. Sad but true...

This is the honest truth. Difficult to hear but sadly still the truth.

We were once on par with countries like South Korea and Taiwan but today we are on par with countries like Vietnam.

In 30 years time, we will still be where we are today which is not much different from 30 years ago

For most. Connections that get u title. Title only works for small fries.

Malaysia's underlying economic and social structure is not sustainable, expect slower growth in the next 10-20 years while other countries grow higher (i.e. Thailand, Vietnam, Philippines).



This post has been edited by Oklahoma: Jan 29 2021, 11:07 AM

we are the one that divide ourselves in the first place.

those politicians are just taking advantage of it.

I remember reading a writing by mamakthir economic advisor. forgot what his name was sorry.

technically he argued that NEP is already a successful. in fact it far more successful than in the non community. most of bumi wealth are in the hand of M40, while most of the wealth in non community are in the hand of T20. the poor are mostly due to geographical rather than racial basically there's plenty of bumi majority area be it Kelantan, Kedah & Sabah that are poor thus skewed the B40 numbers into showcasing that bumi are poor.

I think the whole thing is a huge mess really. the social security measures we have in place for B40 is through zakat. Anwar & menteri agama did the right thing in asking for such fund to be use for nons. but public acceptance is highly problematic. zakat fund are essentially a wealth distribution social security system finance by capital gains taxes and currently it only being paid by Muslim. so Muslim might find it hard to see non get it while well off non will scream Islamisation because they don't wanna see the possibility of them paying social security taxes.

it's not so much they are blind by it. it probably due to separatism thus they don't believe in the non. and PH pretty much crashed down to due the chivunist faction trying to pull their Chinese nationalism policy on the national stage.

this country is a very centralists in nature & culture. any attempt to move it right or left would mean it would come crashing down as people reject such notions.

as for PAS. I'm not sure how they going to 'evolve' the Arab leadership are sponsoring a more 'inclusive' & modern interpretation of salafism. but if they allowed their hardcore faction to overtake their agendas like DAP did b4, PN would come crashing down.

to be fair, if we fail in our quest for efficiency, it's not like we getting bankrap or anything. more like we would continue being in the middle income trapped like most of Latin America,south Africa & Thailand. and those countries seem to have given up already. this is not the case in MY though.sucessive gov even PH had try to liberalised & reduce subsidies. so it's not much of politicians fault it's more of our own fault because we didn't want to do it. we still have a fairy tale like assumption that no personal sacrifice needed , someone else should pay the price and as long as we get the 'right' people in corridor of power. that's why sinkkie at hardwarezone just can't stop laughing at us.

As it is, the privileges of race and religion have elevated mediocre minds to where they can tell the rest of society what it can and cannot do.

NEP is never going to be successful lah.

It is done to redistribute wealth. Not create wealth.

They are so hung up on redistributing wealth from nons, ie. getting more of the pie, instead of making the whole pie bigger so everyone gets a bigger share.

feudal system.

And in turn, the one who can grow the pie leaves and make pie else where.

Good read. And i do remember that article about NEP, which is why I’m wondering when is enough. As much as I’d like to blame the bumis, I also personally know of bumis who sincerely want change. Additionally, I also do think the non-bumis are not completely without fault. However, within each groups, there are the right-wings that tend to complicate things. What we can possibly do is educate each groups to make sure that we can make things better for Malaysia.

I do hope you’re right about the middle income trap, because based on what we know about Saudi, their progressive policies are a result of being an oil-export only country, and they know it’s unsustainable, which is why they’re attempting to diversify by getting more FDI. In order to do that, they needed to implement more liberal policies, which would attract people from all over the world. Similarly here in Malaysia, we have oil as one of our biggest exports, but we’re also lucky we have a few other natural resources that helps as well. However, with the recent boycott on palm oil, I’m not really sure where Malaysia is headed towards right now.

Anyway, i’ll end this so as not to keep bumping this thread up. Thanks for your insights, glad to see another human being share similar sentiments.

This post has been edited by borgeouisbella: Jan 29 2021, 10:02 PM