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 Gamers lead the way to fuck up wallstreet, Gamers did what communists failed.

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whyamiblack
post Jan 28 2021, 11:00 AM

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Since when all in /WSB gamers?

This is what they get when they arrogantly short over 120% of the stock and doubled down on it twice.

Yeah, well come beg for the share or keep paying that interest
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post Jan 28 2021, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(sadukarzz @ Jan 28 2021, 11:35 AM)
dont think this can work here in msia.. retailers will be up against investment banks and institutional funds like EPF..

EPF lose billions = rakyat themselves lose billions, u slap them 100% u get 50% back..

plus, asians are more selfish and kiasi, everyone will be u tank i support in the end no one tanks..
yup true, some people just think that wah spike = buy, dangerous mindset
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Don't know about the Malaysian market and if shorting at such extreme is common but if so it can be done.

Just so everyone remembers, 1997 was caused by these fucks who manipulated and shorted asian currencies including our MYR which eventually led to a whole big collapse. They did it again to gamestop and they got fucking greedy and tried to short it to 0 so they don't have to pay back the cost.

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post Jan 28 2021, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(sembilan @ Jan 28 2021, 12:34 PM)
but what did the investment banks do actually? Short the position in the hope that Gamestop's price will go to zero?
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Short = Pinjam share from broker, sell now at current price, buy back later. Cheaper price = gain, price up = loss.

Basically, they manipulated and short the stock from 20+ down to 3. They got overconfident and doubled down. If the stock goes to zero, all their gains basically have zero cost. All at the expense of gamestop and their investors.

They got found out and the rest is blablablablabla go find and read or youtube if malas.

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post Jan 28 2021, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Jan 28 2021, 12:47 PM)
I read somewhere is that fund doubled down after the stocks pump higher

Initially hedgefund dint short that much

That AMC won't pump so high because only 22% stocks were shorted nia, but if that fund doubled down buy shorting more and more then maybe another GME scenario will occur
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Yes, 240+% last night.
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post Jan 28 2021, 12:57 PM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Jan 28 2021, 12:52 PM)
I tot Melvin already bungkus ??

Right now seems that the stocks dealers butts will get burnt because their customers passed shit onto them.

Domino from hedgie to stock dealers d
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Haven't. They probably closed some positions but not all. Impossible to close all positions with only 100% loss at their claimed opening position. Also, the amount of shorts doubled.

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post Jan 28 2021, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(sembilan @ Jan 28 2021, 01:05 PM)
but how do they manipulate? If they are just placing "bet" hoping the price will come down, the most it gives is the impression that people are dumping the shares. but thanks for your reply.

It will be interesting to see how this pans out when it all ends
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Actually, it's somewhat illegal and irresponsible what they're doing. Basically when they short such a huge amount (probably with the help of their friends) it forces the price to go down. They did not hope for the price to go down, they made the price go down. That's the difference. People think the price is about to crash, then they panic and sell low. The price goes lower and circle continues. Basically what started 1997 financial crisis.

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post Jan 28 2021, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(Eulm585 @ Jan 28 2021, 01:35 PM)
200k redditors pump the price.
Simple terms,
Hedge fund short the stock hoping when it goes down they will profit.
Example price now 50rm, if drop to 20rm the hedge fund pocket 30rm difference.
But when 200k ppl buy 1000rm each, the price from 50rm go to 90rm. So instead of pocketing the loss they need to pump more money in to cover the bet.

Hedge fund didn't buy the stock but make a bet saying will go down.
So when go up they are negative losses.
Now when everyone pump to 200rm, the hedge fund need to cover 150rm loss in each stock.
So if hedge fund bet 100k unit at 50rm to go down, now since it goes up, that 100k units is at -150rm per unit.

So their losses at 100k X 150rm which is 15mil.

But from what I read, it was from 20 over USD to 150 over USD..

So imagine if you buy 10 mil unit at 20 usd, if price goes down to 10 you will win 100mil USD. Now it's 10mil units X 130usd so your losses will be 1.3billion
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No pump. They just like the stock.

Also, it closed at 347 last night. After hours is 292.

QUOTE(LamboSama @ Jan 28 2021, 01:38 PM)
These redditors got money to buy the stocks means they rich also?
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Bought cheap. Lots of people. So yeah. Even at the current price, people can just buy and literally sit on it. Think of it like a concert/show ticket to watch hedge fund burn.

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post Jan 28 2021, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(aspartame @ Jan 28 2021, 01:47 PM)
Go check how much Black Rock makes from Games Stop shares... then tell me who game who? Those retailers getting played out by pros still think they winning... lol.. thanks to Wall Street reporting stroking their egos...

No doubt some small timer hedge funds are getting burnt ...but the biggest whale raking in billions
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Nothing wrong with investing. Everything wrong with manipulation. That's why people aren't mad at BlackRock.

QUOTE(rhodry @ Jan 28 2021, 01:50 PM)
Disagree with this. You all supporting this makes no sense. You support these jobless people with too much time on their hands getting a mob and messing with the market unnaturally. If it happens here then it can happen to others. Dangerous precedent to set.
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Have you forgotten 1997?

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post Jan 28 2021, 03:28 PM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Jan 28 2021, 03:03 PM)
i dont mind burning couple of hundred dollars.
it's a personal vendetta against these elite fuckers
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Pretty much. It's literally "fuck you" money.

I hope it bleeds all the way to those responsible for 1997.
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post Jan 28 2021, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Jan 28 2021, 03:35 PM)
curious, how the shorter push the price down? they just short saja apa?
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You can google or youtube this.

When you short, you borrow. When you short more than available, it makes it seems there's more share than available (artificial dilution). When there's more than available, it drives the price down. Basically manipulation.

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post Jan 28 2021, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(epsilon_chinwk86 @ Jan 28 2021, 03:57 PM)
eToro can't set order for $GME anymore sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif
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Yeah, have to buy at market price. Luckily I got 2 monitors.

QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jan 28 2021, 04:07 PM)
i tot Melvin already closed position? still got fight ka?
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You can google this, go to /wsb or scroll down and type "closed" in search topic and probably will get your answer.

QUOTE(MasterConfucion @ Jan 28 2021, 04:11 PM)
Just lose a bit money on one stock. What's the big deal. Stock market ppl win and lose everyday
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Read shorts.

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post Jan 28 2021, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jan 28 2021, 04:17 PM)
i see. but etoro now can buy only when market open kan.. maybe i put in usd100 for the lulz lol.. just wanna see some fun
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Market is not open yet now. Later at 1030pm but most likely all internet brokers will jam as yesterday. 1130pm-1200am like that should be ok again. Maybe lah see the volume cause it's spreading like wildfire.
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post Jan 28 2021, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(Liamness @ Jan 28 2021, 04:53 PM)
serve them all right..

Vote Biden into power some-more la..

He give everyone free 600USD to go whack kau the rich like this. LOL..

As one famous CCP key-board warrior always like to say, never bite the hand that feeds you.

Trump feed them all nicely, and they voted him out. Now they die under Biden.
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Under Trump no stimulus?

It's just timing. Melvin Cap had their ass wide open with no cover.
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post Jan 28 2021, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(damonlbs @ Jan 28 2021, 04:58 PM)
can the price still go up...?
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Might go up, might go down, might even end up with zero. Who knows. This is not an investment. If anything it's more like a paid ticket to a show and that money helps which side you're on.

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post Jan 28 2021, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(billyboy @ Jan 28 2021, 05:16 PM)
google up Short Interest

try to understand what happens when someone is desperately trying to buy back shares they shorted but you own them.

at the same time, the interest rate on the borrowed shares are clicking at a rumoured 1% to 2% a day.....
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Not sure about the interest rate but I read somewhere Melvin cap was paying 23.6% interest or something like that. At one point they were up over 80% just on interest alone. That's why it's really fishy when they claimed covered position at 100% loss.

Honestly, idc if it goes to 0. That's the worse that it could go. But these fucks are getting literally infinite. I'm just buying in to sit on it.
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post Jan 28 2021, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(halotaikor. @ Jan 28 2021, 05:25 PM)
is this how Soros did to Malaysia during the 90s?

why mahathir didnt ask malaysian to buy more RM forex ?
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Yes. 1997

Not just Malaysia, pretty much ASEAN countries.

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post Jan 28 2021, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Jan 28 2021, 05:27 PM)
later SEC suddenly find some financial accounts irregularities and stock halt trading for sure.
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They'll probably come up with some nonsense.

QUOTE(Szzz @ Jan 28 2021, 05:27 PM)
Sedap
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post Jan 28 2021, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Jan 28 2021, 05:32 PM)
what fee is that ?
borrowing fees for a week/month/year ?
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This one not too sure but should be next settlement date.
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post Jan 28 2021, 07:04 PM

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GME premarket 500 LOL
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post Jan 28 2021, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(karwaidotnet @ Jan 28 2021, 08:47 PM)
if this really works, all hedge fund investor needs to be careful in the future and not let any redditors know they are shorting any stocks...
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Not all hedge is bad. Problem with this one is when they systematically hedge it to manipulate the price and also hedging more than the available volume.

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