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 Gamers lead the way to fuck up wallstreet, Gamers did what communists failed.

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post Jan 28 2021, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(Baconateer @ Jan 28 2021, 10:19 AM)
how did the redditors jacked the stock price up so high and why cant the investors just sell all the stocks? I assume the investors bought the stocks at very low price...since the stock price is so high now..arent they suppose to profit from it?  :confused:
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they are not selling any shares, just holding to hurt the hedge fund

hedge fund had a short position that is expiring this Friday (meaning they have to buy back the shares they shorted at market price) and since most of the shares are in gamers hands who refuse to sell, the price will not drop and keep squeezing shorts to the upside, which will result massive losses to the hedge fund who is already filing for bankruptcy
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post Jan 28 2021, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(whyamiblack @ Jan 28 2021, 11:54 AM)
Don't know about the Malaysian market and if shorting at such extreme is common but if so it can be done.

Just so everyone remembers, 1997 was caused by these fucks who manipulated and shorted asian currencies including our MYR which eventually led to a whole big collapse. They did it again to gamestop and they got fucking greedy and tried to short it to 0 so they don't have to pay back the cost.
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because gamestop is going to close business, that's why they thought they can make bank by shorting it to zero

if wall street does it it's not illegal, but when retail investors do it they shut down trading... this is how rich stays rich and becomes richer, because they manipulate the game to only favor them
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post Jan 28 2021, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(rhodry @ Jan 28 2021, 01:50 PM)
Disagree with this. You all supporting this makes no sense. You support these jobless people with too much time on their hands getting a mob and messing with the market unnaturally. If it happens here then it can happen to others. Dangerous precedent to set.
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messing with the market unnaturally lol... while wall street does it since forever and nobody bats an eye. you know they shorted inexistent stock? they shorted 150% of the available stock, that's why it's negative float. how is that even fair or legal? but of course they call this "free market"

so it's "free market" when the rich do it, but "messing with market unnaturally" when normal people do it?
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post Jan 28 2021, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Jan 28 2021, 03:07 PM)
did some digging on Melvin hedgefund.
apparently they are very good at what they're doing, and many competitors copied their strategy,
short selling what they sold.

so this isnt just one hedge fund got burnt, it's a market leader at its segment that burnt badly.
they were very greedy because GME from $40 pushed down to $4.
yet these fuckers piled up more shorts which made them vulnerable

padan mukak greedy wolves get stampede by reddit sheeps
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at the end of the day it's the greed that got them. can't blame anyone but themselves. stock market is not guaranteed profit and they possibly over-leveraged, throwing risk management down the drain. didn't expect "reddit traders to gang up" is a shitty excuse for their failure from greediness lel. if normal traders get rekt because of greediness, thousands of people shit on them.
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post Jan 28 2021, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Jan 28 2021, 04:39 PM)
If you have mixed with ppl that take drugs you'll know they can't think straight.

Fund managers once they lose money is equivalent to losing everything they build.
Since the end result doesn't change, they'll just double down everything until eventually market reverses

Or they're dead like in this case
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definitely high risk high return job... and sometimes ppl forget the "high risk" comes first in the phrase.
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post Jan 28 2021, 05:54 PM

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QUOTE(smallikanbilis @ Jan 28 2021, 05:52 PM)
Time to short GME on Friday
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that's insane. the shorts expiring means there will be tons of buy orders flooding the market creating an upward pressure, unless you can time the market when exactly the short squeeze has exhausted... but you know what ppl say about timing the market
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post Jan 29 2021, 06:21 PM

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no sympathy to these mofos, they have been stealing from the poor since forever. hopefully wall street will be turned inside out and just die.

QUOTE(billyboy @ Jan 29 2021, 05:28 PM)
[From WSB]

I'm glad this place has quieted down enough for some actual DD written by a monkey with a keyboard and Adderall.

Disclaimer: I am that monkey. Let me explain to you what happened, play by play. I will give you illiterates who hate reading a spoiler up front:

We were within approximately 30 seconds of triggering a nuclear bomb that would have blown up the market. Do I have your attention? Here goes:

    ⁠Yesterday, new call option strike prices were added all the way up to $570. Do I have to go over gamma squeezes again? Really? We've been over this: when deep out-of-the-money call options start being gobbled up and the price starts moving towards being in-the-money, the call writers have to hedge their risk of having their sold calls exercised, typically by buying stock. This creates upwards pressure on the market. We've been seeing these movements all week.

    ⁠Yesterday after market, you probably saw that coordinated effort to drive the price down and spook retail investors into a mass sell-off. It didn't work.

    ⁠Last night, Robinhood sent out a message to users: you could no longer enter into new options. You could exercise them if you had the collateral (money in the account) to do so. Very interesting and the first sign of pants-shitting fear.

    ⁠Today, the market opened very strong. It opened so strong that we were looking at a self-perpetuating gamma squeeze all the way up way past $570.

    ⁠At approximately 9:58 am, the stock had reached $468 in a parabolic move.

    ⁠Two minutes earlier, at 9:56 am, Robinhood tweeted that they were not allowing users to buy GME stock, but they would allow selling.

    ⁠The trend instantly halted and started a collapse downwards, before picking up a bit, especially after some retail was allowed back in.

Okay, now that you are clear on the facts, understand this: The market ran out of liquidity today, or was threatening to get close enough that they killed it. What does that mean? It means they ran out of shares and/or capital. They wouldn't let you buy new shares because we were burning through all the shares on the market.

I saw an unsubstantiated post from a user (u/zshub) who said a market sell order executed at $2600 for him. Also, someone else for over $5,000 per share. Do you get the severity of the situation, if that's true? It means the buying was getting to the point where it was just about to put INFINITE pressure on the price of the shares. It means virtually any ask was getting bid.

How do you get infinite upwards pressure? A gamma squeeze triggering the mother of all short squeezes, just like we predicted. The call writers need shares to hedge. Retail is still buying more. The short sellers need over 100% of the float back. Add these together. There were more shares needed than existed on the open market. That's what a liquidity crisis is.

Listen to this to this remarkable (if infuriating) interview where the chairman of Interactive Brokers admits that they didn't have the capital to pay out the winners (us), so they took their ball and went home. DO YOU GRASP HOW INSANE IT IS THAT HE SAID THEY NEEDED TO SHUT DOWN BUY ORDERS TO "PROTECT THE MARKET"? Hello! He's not talking about the market for GME shares. He's talking about the entire market! The New York Stock Exchange. The NASDAQ. All that.

Remember the movie Snowpiercer? Do you remember that scene where the lower class people realize the soldiers who oppress them have no bullets? Go to the 1:00 minute mark of this link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH1EtiOhr6o

It kick starts a full blown rebellion. They have no bullets. It's the exact same in this market: No capital. No shares. Infinite losses inbound.

TL;DR: For all you who will just skip to the bottom to ask, "Do I get my tendies now?" the answer is this: they NEED NEED NEED your shares. Do you get that? HOLD. Like the guy in the movie, scream, "They're out of bullets!" and create a stampede. That's how we win.

They needed your shares so badly that they literally risked PRISON TIME to get them. They tried robbing you, and I'm not even exaggerating. They were within 30 seconds of all being wiped out today.
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post Jan 29 2021, 08:22 PM

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those rats shut down trading facilities, closed long positions of individuals without consent, google deleting all the 1 star reviews

all of them should be in jail!

 

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