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Jan 17 2021, 08:53 PM
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if you have fixed commitment..then better part time..but dont give up
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QUOTE(SiewLee30 @ Jan 17 2021, 08:53 PM) burn wei....dont like that la leeaunc liked this post
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Should try to get a job first.
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Jan 17 2021, 08:56 PM
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Hi Wilson Low,
If you decide to pursue a Master's Degree because you feel that it gives you a perk of getting a better salary and job opportunity, then the answer is no. But if you decide to pursue it because you want to know more about your subject matter or because you want to venture into education, by all mean you should. Before you proceed with a Master's degree, may I suggest you enroll in English classes? It would help a lot in your Master degree (research-based especially) |
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QUOTE(SiewLee30 @ Jan 17 2021, 08:53 PM) Totally agreed. Maybe u can secure a job after that Ludwig., haroldz123, and 2 others liked this post
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Jan 17 2021, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE(holypredator @ Jan 17 2021, 08:54 PM) not everyone graduated in their early 20sthat's shallow. |
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You can negotiate with PTPTN to allow you pay once start working after your Masters. My friend did it and he took PTPTN loan from diploma> Masters
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QUOTE(holypredator @ Jan 17 2021, 09:54 PM) No. I attended Bachelor degree at 25 years old. Henry T liked this post
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Jan 17 2021, 09:00 PM
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no. waste time. WILSON LOW liked this post
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QUOTE(Teddysaur @ Jan 17 2021, 08:58 PM) ya lor ..not everyone continue study after diploma or even SPM WILSON LOW liked this post
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Jan 17 2021, 09:02 PM
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If I am in your place, I would find alternatives while waiting for interviews maybe grab or other delivery service
I will also try to do internship first if there is really no opening for permanent roles Try to avoid adding more commitment as based on your story you have already some loans. May the force be with you 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼 |
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i know one of my frez study till 28 still havent graduate..
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QUOTE(SiewLee30 @ Jan 17 2021, 08:53 PM) WILSON LOW while this may sound like an insult, it is a legitimate advice. You have no idea how much value it adds to you simply being able to speak proper English, simply put if there are two applicants of equal qualifications for the job, I'd go with the one who can carry himself well. WILSON LOW liked this post
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Jan 17 2021, 09:06 PM
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QUOTE(WILSON LOW @ Jan 17 2021, 08:52 PM) I am 28 years old, just graduated Bachelor of Human Resources at private university. I am still seeking for a job. But, government was implemented MCO in some states, especially KL and Selangor. This was caused me very hard to find a job and unemployment rate was rose in previous month. The unemployment rate may increases again in the coming months. So, I am intending to pursue Master degree, but I have financial issue and I also need to pay back PTPTN loan for my previous Bachelor studies. I am confusing now. How should I do?😥 No, bad idea. If you already have a Bachelors degree, getting a Masters degree does not improve your chance at getting a job, nor does it improve your pay. IMHO getting a Masters degree only makes sense if you either want to change field, or you want to pursue Phd and become researcher in your current field.This post has been edited by imnotabot: Jan 17 2021, 09:07 PM WILSON LOW liked this post
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Jan 17 2021, 09:07 PM
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Always pay off debt first
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Enroll in language class is a good option rather than continue study. WILSON LOW liked this post
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QUOTE(zilch28 @ Jan 17 2021, 10:05 PM) WILSON LOW while this may sound like an insult, it is a legitimate advice. You have no idea how much value it adds to you simply being able to speak proper English, simply put if there are two applicants of equal qualifications for the job, I'd go with the one who can carry himself well. I knew that my English was bad. My English level is A2-Elementary only. Need to improve. |
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sign up master for teaching be a lecturer to some private / public uni WILSON LOW liked this post
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QUOTE(WILSON LOW @ Jan 17 2021, 09:12 PM) Idk how much of a commitment you have, but if it were me, I'd go for a language class while working part-time and job hunting. Taking Masters at this point seems to be only adding more to your debt (unless you are taking full scholarship) audi90 liked this post
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QUOTE(WILSON LOW @ Jan 17 2021, 10:30 PM) 1. Its never too late to learn new things2. Try graduate certificate OR upskills certification that will help your "business" degree. This days, you can even learn it Online. ( eg:FutureLearn.com/ Coursera/ Udemy/Open Uni / edX) 3. Please, please Wilson low. If that was your name. DO Attend more proper or NGos like toastmaster club to improve your English. Its Okay to make mistaken, but I hope someday you wont get judged being a HR some by better distinction and capable future employees. Also please drop the "Malaysia-glish" concept. |
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dont go for master if uu got financial probs, uu will just dig deeper
this MCO try own biz while trying to secure a job better |
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QUOTE(WILSON LOW @ Jan 17 2021, 08:52 PM) I am 28 years old, just graduated Bachelor of Human Resources at private university. I am still seeking for a job. But, government was implemented MCO in some states, especially KL and Selangor. This was caused me very hard to find a job and unemployment rate was rose in previous month. The unemployment rate may increases again in the coming months. So, I am intending to pursue Master degree, but I have financial issue and I also need to pay back PTPTN loan for my previous Bachelor studies. I am confusing now. How should I do?😥 serious talk, see if your masters program is offered in part time. Then try to work while studying for masters. who knows, your conpany may even sponsor part of your course fees?good luck to you. WILSON LOW liked this post
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Your english ok laa as long people understand.. but in this trying times I don't think obtaining a master's degree will increase your chances of getting a job especially when private sectosr prefer experience more than certificate. This post has been edited by gogocan: Jan 17 2021, 09:21 PM WILSON LOW and audi90 liked this post
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Jan 17 2021, 09:21 PM
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You should really improve your English first
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Come in expected to troll ts, as ayam suspected is a dupe. Mana tau is 2013, lulz.
Here is ayam punya 2 cents: -Since u are having financial isues, ayam suggest dun study master 1st. Else u gonna have a hard time paying back the fees, in addition to ur degree fees. - Better to look for a job first, dun add unnecessary monetary load, unless u can start master without paying much money - Its good also to improve ur english. Do not need to spend money on this. There are many ways to learn from internet and video like youtube. |
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Seriously no. If you think getting Master degree will make you more employable & higher salary, you are wrong. Unless you are pursuing career in higher education or climbing up to senior management level, which you are not, your bachelor degree is enough. Better to work and taking class to improve skills like English class or specific technical cert. Oklahoma and WILSON LOW liked this post
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Jan 17 2021, 09:30 PM
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A master's degree is always better than a degree Work and study part time Work hard to earn yourself two degree and two master's degree. Huge difference This post has been edited by zeist: Jan 17 2021, 09:34 PM Oklahoma and WILSON LOW liked this post
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Jan 17 2021, 09:35 PM
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People shouldn’t judge people going and graduating uni as a mature student. English can always be improved. English lessons will not help actually and is a waste of money. Need to practise listening and talking more. Workplace can prepare you for that. Master degree is a waste of money though for your field of study. I don’t know what can a masters in PR and HR do. Also financial issues like you said does not help the situation. This post has been edited by KekTart: Jan 17 2021, 09:44 PM WILSON LOW liked this post
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Jan 17 2021, 09:38 PM
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Master without working exp will increase ur unemployment rate WILSON LOW liked this post
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QUOTE(Teddysaur @ Jan 17 2021, 08:56 PM) Hi Wilson Low, tepat dan bernas kupasan daripada teddyIf you decide to pursue a Master's Degree because you feel that it gives you a perk of getting a better salary and job opportunity, then the answer is no. But if you decide to pursue it because you want to know more about your subject matter or because you want to venture into education, by all mean you should. Before you proceed with a Master's degree, may I suggest you enroll in English classes? It would help a lot in your Master degree (research-based especially) |
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QUOTE(WILSON LOW @ Jan 17 2021, 08:52 PM) I am 28 years old, just graduated Bachelor of Human Resources at private university. I am still seeking for a job. But, government was implemented MCO in some states, especially KL and Selangor. This was caused me very hard to find a job and unemployment rate was rose in previous month. The unemployment rate may increases again in the coming months. So, I am intending to pursue Master degree, but I have financial issue and I also need to pay back PTPTN loan for my previous Bachelor studies. I am confusing now. How should I do?😥 Forget masters. Work first. WILSON LOW liked this post
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QUOTE(roybreaker @ Jan 17 2021, 08:59 PM) You can negotiate with PTPTN to allow you pay once start working after your Masters. My friend did it and he took PTPTN loan from diploma> Masters QUOTE(WILSON LOW @ Jan 17 2021, 09:02 PM) If you do defer the payment, please check with PTPTN when will the interest kicks in. Previously, the interest was charged even when the payment was deferred.This post has been edited by Human Nature: Jan 17 2021, 09:50 PM |
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i am convinced that tertiary education institutions is a scam. you were made to borrow ptptn before you even know what a loan is, and then spend years to pay back for an education that didn't help you land a job. a masters degree is a bigger scam. don't do it. WILSON LOW liked this post
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Take certification or competency Much better than master degree WILSON LOW liked this post
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You have debt you need to pay but want to take masters? Better get job first. Masters degree don't mean much in Malaysia. WILSON LOW liked this post
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Dont waste further money. I doubt by getting an extra master degree cant help you much. Better to use the money to read more books ya... WILSON LOW liked this post
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Jan 17 2021, 10:04 PM
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Like many here, i'd suggest u fix ur englidh 1st. From there, at least ur interview is more secured. WILSON LOW liked this post
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Jan 17 2021, 10:06 PM
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Frank speak, study master waste time , waste money only... Unless you have plan to study till PhD, otherwise keep that money to do other things WILSON LOW liked this post
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Master degree only good for engineering/ medicine/ architecture/ law
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Let me give you a genuine advice ....
If you do not have any working experience... there i no point for you to get a masters Masters only would help you when you are on the very top.... where you would need to impress the directors or CEOs Don't believe those nay sayers that think masters is useless but don't think you can get anywhere if your sole purpose of getting a master is to secure your first job... |
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QUOTE(WILSON LOW @ Jan 17 2021, 08:52 PM) I am 28 years old, just graduated Bachelor of Human Resources at private university. I am still seeking for a job. But, government was implemented MCO in some states, especially KL and Selangor. This was caused me very hard to find a job and unemployment rate was rose in previous month. The unemployment rate may increases again in the coming months. So, I am intending to pursue Master degree, but I have financial issue and I also need to pay back PTPTN loan for my previous Bachelor studies. I am confusing now. How should I do?😥 If you start your Master, then PTPTN payment can be delayed until you finish your Master. |
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Impress by /k sebulat suara answer. There you go TS, thank us after 5 years
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Why did you take a HR degree and still need to ask if a masters would help in HR matters? Advise us instead.
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Hi, I am currently working while taking part time master's. Most master's classes are after working hours anyway, and most master's student are working full time to earn an income.
However, you still need to find a job if you can. Have an income while studying on the side. I also take ptptn to study. But my plan is eventually quit my day job and be a lecturer. It depends on your career pathway. If you want to do it, just go for it. The ptptn loan is insignificant to your lifetime earnings. What's RM40k at 1% interest if you going to earn a few millions by the time you're retired. This post has been edited by Oklahoma: Jan 18 2021, 10:32 AM |
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If for sale of salary, don't, don't give up just yet trying to get a job. Just try anything remotely close to your field. I think employers will have a hard time giving you a job to match your qualification but with no experience
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Try your very best to get a job first. Job that follow your interest as much as you can.
Don't simply plunge into masters without work experience. Thats my take as a master graduate |
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QUOTE(WILSON LOW @ Jan 17 2021, 08:52 PM) I am 28 years old, just graduated Bachelor of Human Resources at private university. I am still seeking for a job. But, government was implemented MCO in some states, especially KL and Selangor. This was caused me very hard to find a job and unemployment rate was rose in previous month. The unemployment rate may increases again in the coming months. So, I am intending to pursue Master degree, but I have financial issue and I also need to pay back PTPTN loan for my previous Bachelor studies. I am confusing now. How should I do?😥 I think it's better to spend some money on English classes.having said that , some /ktards who advised you to do the same need to read their own posts as well kekkkThis post has been edited by arsenwagon: Jan 18 2021, 10:31 AM |
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Don't give up but you need to juggle between job and studies.
I did mine part time as well. It is tough but it is worth it. Still since you are stretched financially, my advice is to make ends meet first. |
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Wah... Teddy giving some wisdom and advice that makes sense
Quite surprised to see some close minded comments (e.g graduated at 28? why?)... amazing |
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if you are useless. go further study.
just paid to get you some work to do. if you are gitted. you already start your own business. Online tutor, Content creator, online seller even Grab food merchant... But since you ask.. and you already 28!!!!! yet you dont know how to get things works... |
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Jan 18 2021, 10:44 AM
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Depending on what kind of Master Degree you are getting. For example, it is beneficial to have a few years of working experience before enrolling in courses like Master in Business Administration & Master in Project Management. Because you will understand the course better and perform better in general with your past working experience.
If you are taking Master just to kill time now I do not think that is a viable options. Try to get some working experience, care less for the pay now because you are a fresh graduate and also the current economic conditions. If you have the options, start from a small company where they hire HR executives, you will learn a lot more in small company than working in huge company. Please take note that having a master degree does not always guarantee you a job, but it may help you advance in a cooperate ladder. Usually companies would avoid hiring fresh overqualified candidates. The choice is in your hands, try to think ahead and sketch out your plan for both route and analyze which is a better option. Don't worry about k/tards that make fun of your English. It is part of the learning process. Keep learning! |
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find job la.. master can do part time...
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i've been working since i was in my last year degree. and then working professionally for 5yrs before took master.
quit within a year. degree and master is a big leap, make sure you are mentally prepared |
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QUOTE(Jason96 @ Jan 18 2021, 10:44 AM) Depending on what kind of Master Degree you are getting. For example, it is beneficial to have a few years of working experience before enrolling in courses like Master in Business Administration & Master in Project Management. Because you will understand the course better and perform better in general with your past working experience. I'm wandering what is the additional value of the knowledge gained in a HR masters that would increase employability in that field?If you are taking Master just to kill time now I do not think that is a viable options. Try to get some working experience, care less for the pay now because you are a fresh graduate and also the current economic conditions. If you have the options, start from a small company where they hire HR executives, you will learn a lot more in small company than working in huge company. Please take note that having a master degree does not always guarantee you a job, but it may help you advance in a cooperate ladder. Usually companies would avoid hiring fresh overqualified candidates. The choice is in your hands, try to think ahead and sketch out your plan for both route and analyze which is a better option. Don't worry about k/tards that make fun of your English. It is part of the learning process. Keep learning! Worse still, a freshie rocking up to an interview waving a masters' degree when your HR manager might not have one (but has more work experience) might decrease his chance of getting hired. |
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Jan 18 2021, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE(lorkh @ Jan 17 2021, 09:21 PM) My post above was reported. I guess by TS as he deemed it an insult.Actually I didn't mean it as an insult. The only insult I see is you degrading & mutilating the English language with zero care for grammar & noun and end up insulting yourself. Frozen_Sun, Aurora Boreali, and 1 other liked this post
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