during these tough times, lots of people are out of jobs, recession and phone makers still dare to price it so high. Removing all those free things from the package. Forcing people to go out and buy.
Samsung is selling the adapter for $20.

you are not the target market. no one is blaming LV or BMW coming with new models and higher price. the premium market will buy because they can afford it.
Yeah im still on note 9. Still running fine and i love the video output.
one of the main reason i didnt upgrade to note20 is the under performing exynos . Hopefully the new chip catches up to snapdragon, i might buy the s21 ultra or wait for note 21 ( if samsung didnt kill it la )

Eh? I thought you won't buy it since you complained about the S21 in various threads including the one in kopitiam. So what changed your mind bro?

Comparison of S20 ULTRA SD / S21 ULTRA EXY
Seems significant enough but we'll have to see actual temps. and throttling tests

S7edge -> S21

Waiting the reviews.

The deal breaker for me currently is
-1080 screen
-No micro SD

What makes me wanna buy is
-the free buds
-maxis installment ( xiaomi don't have or have to wait long)
-Snapdragon 888 overheating

I kinda wishing S20 FE drops price

I am thinking to buy s21+. But I would like to avoid pre-order that mark up price for free gift. When will be next big discount sale (without free gift) like 11.11?

I am asking because I cant wait for 11.11 too long.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOthabF59c0

So those who get the free wireless trio essentially get a free charger head 

Yes that's right 

Not really. SD doesn’t fate to win over Exynos yet.

If you take a deeper look at SD888 and Exynos2100, you will realise they’re almost identical on CPU tech this year. In fact Exynos is clocked higher than SD888 cores to cores.

Qualcomm didn’t tweak much off ARM reference design this year round, hence it’s almost identical to Exynos. And to double down on the similarities, Snapdragon this year is manufactured by Samsung too, thus the previous discrepancies caused by TSMC vs Samsung fabrication shouldnt happen again this year.

But again, other than the CPU, other parts of chipset may start to differentiate itself, especially the GPU and modems.

What’s interesting is even SD888 seems over ambitious and over claimed on the improvements this year. Samsung’s 5nm can’t sustain properly the improvements yet. The improvements (benchmarks and etc) are not sustainable unless the excessive heat issue is resolved thermal throttling to a lesser extent. This also translate to higher draws in power and lesser battery life.

thanks bro for sharing this. probably have wait till 5nm chips getting stable which hopefully next year
Do you think that software could have fix this issue ?

Any last year flagship with SD865 got discounts liao?

Hi guys, wanna ask in Maxis website showing out of stock for S21 with 3 free gifts. Do you think it will restock and still include the free gifts?

You have to wait till embargo lifted ..that will be this coming Friday..

Interesting to see that S21+ has longer battery life than S21 Ultra, they both use the same chip isn't it?

S21 Ultra LTPO (10-120Hz) is more efficient than S21+ (48-120Hz) some more.

But since Ultra just slightly bigger than S21+, can consider get S21 Ultra
I am interested to see how the camera between both of them

Wait few months then the price definitely drop one

Got alot charger in my house
Only interested on wireless charger trio and buds+ or buds pro only
200g (plus) or 227g (ultra), Ultra weight almost same as iPhone 12 Pro Max
The S Pen on Ultra totally is a joke, not much function like Note series, better call it as stylus instead S Pen
The camera mainly 12MP and 108MP on main sensor, and extra periscope sensor on Ultra
If difference really minor then S21+ is better deal