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 Samsung Galaxy S21 | S21+ | S21 Ultra 5G - V1, Exynos 2100 | Available in stores

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post Jan 15 2021, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(KCY3701 @ Jan 15 2021, 11:49 AM)
Price Comparison for S21 Series with Previous Generations

S21 RM 3699 $849.99 (RM 3430.08) (256GB version)
S20 RM 3599 $999 (RM 4031.40)
S10 RM 3299 $799 (RM 3224.21)

S21+ RM 4299 $1049.99 (RM 4237.27) (256GB version)
S20+ RM 3999 $1199 (RM 4838.60)
S10+ RM 3699 $899 (RM 3627.94)

S21 Ultra RM 5299 $1249.99 (RM 5044.37) (256GB version)
S20 Ultra RM 4999 $1399 (RM 5645.71)
S10+ (12GB/1TB) RM 5999 $1599 (RM 6452.57)

** USD to MYR based on XE conversion rate of 1 USD = 4.03538 MYR
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There is some slight inaccurate info on S20 series pricing based on the conversion rate used in the table above. It should be around 4.14 during its time, lets assume we take the price starting when they officially announced the pre-order date which falls on 12 Feb 2020. If we wanna account for margin of error it will be between 4.12 to 4.14, if they did set the pricing earlier than 12 Feb 2020 (maybe 1 week before).

It would be around 4.07 for Samsung S10 series if we take the preorder date price which falls on 22 Feb 2019.

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post Jan 15 2021, 07:59 PM

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QUOTE(KCY3701 @ Jan 15 2021, 07:36 PM)
Those US converted prices are just to illustrate the trend of the pricing. I wanted to point out that while US prices went down, Malaysia prices went up despite now having better exchange rates than before.
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I have just forgotten something, the US model actually comes with 12GB RAM and also 5G as the base model (if I not mistaken), while for Malaysian market we only get 8GB RAM and 4G only for the base model. So this might affect the final pricing differences as well, by how much, I have no idea. So that could also attribute to lower Malaysian RRP price. Applicable for S20 and S20+ only.

I think for S20 Ultra should be same specs since both market offers 5G. Still I cannot justify the significant price increase this year for S21 series.


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post Jan 15 2021, 08:06 PM

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QUOTE(pikafaded @ Jan 15 2021, 07:55 PM)
To those who thinks Exynos is inferior to Snapdragon: Yes, in 2020, the Exynos 990 has bad thermal issue and throttling due to the custom Mongoose core. This year, Samsung has ditched the Mongoose core and switched back to use ARM's X1 core. Thermal issue has seems to be fixed and performance is on par with Snapdragon 888. ISP on Exynos is also better than Snapdragon which results in better photo and video shooting. However, being that said, we still need to wait for real life reviews and tests to conclude whether Exynos is good or bad. All the best Exynos!
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Also guys don't forget about this in increased in power efficiency department, for those who did not watch the keynote featuring Exynos 2100

"The Exynos 2100 also integrates advanced multi-IP governor (AMIGO) technology, which overlooks and optimizes power usages of CPU, GPU, and other processes, allowing longer use time even with intense on-screen activities."

Source: Samsung Sets New Standard for Flagship Mobile Processors With Exynos 2100
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post Jan 16 2021, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ Jan 16 2021, 08:27 AM)
There's no 4G S21 series in Malaysia. S21 series in Malaysia is all 5G. This is because the 5G modem is now integrated in the SoC unlike last year. Also this year in Malaysia base storage is 256GB last year was 128GB.
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Bro, I'm referring to S20 series for 4G offered as base model, not S21. I was trying to highlight that we cannot compare the prices in apples to apples comparison due to the difference in specs offered between US market vs Malaysian market
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post Jan 18 2021, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(Nephrite @ Jan 18 2021, 09:43 AM)
Hi all, wanted to check with you all on the Fit 2 free gift.

I registered my interest at Samsung website on 4 Jan 2021 at 10.33 AM

I pre ordered my Samsung S21 Ultra at Samsung Website on 15 Jan 2021 at 12.45 AM

Till today I haven't receive any Unique Code email from Samsung on the Fit 2

Checking with everyone have you all receive any Unique Code on the ROI Galaxy Fit 2 email from Samsung already ?
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Your doubts is clear now cool2.gif.
Edit: Crap messed up editing the images. Fixed now.

Samsung Malaysia Electronics <crm.marketing@samsung.com>
Fri 15/01/2021 7:02 AM


[Insert name here], here is your surprise gift!

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Thank you for your continuous support.

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post Jan 19 2021, 09:02 PM

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QUOTE(KCY3701 @ Jan 19 2021, 08:48 PM)
Interesting to see that S21+ has longer battery life than S21 Ultra, they both use the same chip isn't it?

S21 Ultra LTPO (10-120Hz) is more efficient than S21+ (48-120Hz) some more.
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Lower native display resolution plays a huge role in battery life, due to the fact the display consumes the most battery power. More pixels they pack, the more power they consume.
There is some myth that lowering display resolution can save battery power, the answer is it depends.

Let's take the Samsung S21 Ultra as an example. It has QHD+ or 1440p vertical resolution. Lowering the resolution to FHD+ or 1080p will not reduce the display power consumption at all as it still need to lit up all 4.6 million pixels (3200 x 1440p = 4,608,000 pixels) on AMOLED screen. It provides power savings in other components though that shows/render the content on the display like the CPU / GPU as it is not pushed as hard at lower resolution (most noticeable during gaming).

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post Jan 19 2021, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(leongsem @ Jan 19 2021, 09:12 PM)
Screen size
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6.7 inch vs 6.8 inch, the difference is negligeable

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post Jan 19 2021, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(Max2006 @ Jan 19 2021, 09:22 PM)
Don't forget that S21 ultra got qhd+ screen while S21+ only fhd+. May be his S21 ultra in the video is using qhd+. That's why the battery life is slightly weaker than S21+. But we will never know since we don't speak Russian. Lol.
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Actually it does not matter much because S21 Ultra native is QHD+ even if the default is set to FHD+ (keyword here is Native)
Watch this video if you want more concrete proof

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post Jan 19 2021, 09:39 PM

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QUOTE(mois @ Jan 19 2021, 09:35 PM)
Nonsense. My s10+ got both resolution and i barely notice the difference. Only monitor can tell the difference.
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Your eye resolving power is not good enough, that's all I can say.
You cannot see the differences does not means others cannot though.

Text is always blurrier at non native resolution. The difference is more subtle due to high PPI in Samsung flagship phones.
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post Jan 20 2021, 09:17 AM

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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Jan 19 2021, 11:28 PM)
Got alot charger in my house
Only interested on wireless charger trio and buds+ or buds pro only laugh.gif
200g (plus) or 227g (ultra), Ultra weight almost same as iPhone 12 Pro Max laugh.gif
The S Pen on Ultra totally is a joke, not much function like Note series, better call it as stylus instead S Pen
The camera mainly 12MP and 108MP on main sensor, and extra periscope sensor on Ultra
If difference really minor then S21+ is better deal icon_rolleyes.gif
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The S Pen offered reminiscence the old Note series. If you want the S Pen like functionality like in recent Note series that comes with Bluetooth connectivity, wait for the S Pen Pro, which is available later this year.
The new S Pen is larger in all dimensions, making it more comfortable to hold like a proper pencil, the built-in S Pen in Note is rather awkward to use.
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post Jan 20 2021, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(KCY3701 @ Jan 20 2021, 11:19 AM)
2k and 1080 not too much difference on such a small screen, however if need to go back to 60Hz from 120Hz is definitely noticeable (eg. switch to iPong 12 series).
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To me, I agree that it is not too much difference if I am comparing both devices on native QHD+ vs FHD+ panel due to the panel itself have high PPI count.
But the moment you manually downgrade the resolution to other than it's native resolution for the panel it is capable displaying, I can notice it with my eyes straightaway. The blurrier text is very obvious to me.
I can say that I have very sensitive eye resolving power I guess, even 1 frame drop in video games, the microstutters occur (when it cannot lock to 60 FPS), I will be able to notice it laugh.gif
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post Jan 20 2021, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(lambsauce @ Jan 20 2021, 01:40 PM)
so native 1080p on s21/+ should be ok n not blurry?
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Nope, you guys might be misunderstanding the differences between output resolution vs panel resolution.
Output resolution = what ever resolution you can set via software
Panel resolution = the pixel resolution it comes within the hardware display itself and cannot be changed via any means.

It will only becomes blurry when output resolution does not match the panel resolution, this is where a lot of non tech savvy people confuse a lot. Why it is blurry, it is due to the fact the content is not pixel perfect map to the display. This applies to all modern display technologies whether it is LCD, LED, OLED or etc with the exception if you use CRT monitor.

If you still wanna simulate FHD+ on QHD+ display, to be still sharp and crisp looking, the best example I can give you is to use One handed mode. Because in this mode the content is smaller than the actual display hence it does not look that much blur. Another bonus effect for One handed mode, since the rest of the screen is total black (due to OLED pixel switch off completely), extra battery savings can be gain here lol. But will you wanna sacrifice the smaller display size? brows.gif

It is like telling me why does my PS2 graphic looks so blur when hook to a Full HD TV but not on my old CRT monitor. Here is the answer why.

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post Jan 20 2021, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Jan 20 2021, 03:10 PM)
1080p screen isn't blurry. 🤦‍♂️
It's just that QHD resolution is sharper.
Sharp vs sharper. This isn't VGA vs 4k resolution comparison.
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I would not say sharper, it only applies if you perform software resolution downgrade and compare it to native QHD.
Higher resolution benefit is less jaggies seen on text, so the text will look more curved and natural like printed content.

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This is the difference in how UHD 4K (left) and full HD (right) appear at the same screen size. The photographs of the icons have been taken at about the same distance from the screen. With UHD 4K (3840 x 2160 pixels), the display is enlarged 200%, and with full HD (1920 x 1080 pixels), the icon is displayed at the same magnification. The size of the icons is roughly the same, but as you can see, the icon is displayed in higher definition with UHD 4K.

If you wanna have a read can refer to this website but mind you, might be too technical for you.
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post Jan 20 2021, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(ijuanp03 @ Jan 20 2021, 07:06 PM)
Too technical when my profession is software programmer. Ok 👌

the display is enlarged 200%

Already a dead giveaway to make the difference more obvious in the comparison. A normal user won't look at the display that close but if someone does, by all means, they should NOT buy the S21/S21+. They will really get frustrated.
Anyway, I think it's safe to say that Samsung have done enough R&D to know why they opted for FullHD+ for the non-ultra devices.
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LOL, I have no idea you're a software programmer, although I can see that you're more knowledgeable about this kind of stuff compared to average consumer. Definitely not too technical for you, which is why I include the word might (maybe).

Actually the text comparison was not intended as a direct response to you but more of to educate consumer generally. I should have create a new post instead of continuing, sorry about that part.
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post Jan 23 2021, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(msacras @ Jan 23 2021, 02:33 PM)
Debated before, likely the smaller resolution at works.

Higher resolutions = more pixels = more GPU powers required

Some are suggesting the variable refresh rate may be at play too, but there’s no way we can confirm until someone do a conducive frame rates monitoring.
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You are partially correct.

More GPU power required for higher resolution is only true or significant when you play moderate to heavy game titles. For displaying content, it makes negligable differences as modern GPU is very efficient now. Resolution is no longer a major factor dependent on using more GPU power if it just use for displaying static content or video. For example, 10 years ago turning on Anti-aliasing (AA) will impact the game FPS severely. Nowadays turning on AA will only have little FPS drop due to architectural and instructions improvement within the driver and the chip.

Like I have said before in previous post, S21+ have longer battery life due to lower panel resolution. 1080p to 1440p is roughly 1.7x more pixel count. The extra pixel count means more subpixel RGB LED in it. If you wanna know, display panel consumes most of your battery life in a smartphone if you are not playing heavy title games.

Variable refresh rate will only yield power savings if the content display is static (as it will downclock the refresh rate). For people who do benchmark on battery life, the display will be actively used so power savings gain is insignificant here (more applicable here since both S21+ and S21U supports Variable Refresh Rate (VRR).

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post Jan 24 2021, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(ipohps3 @ Jan 23 2021, 09:21 PM)
are you referring to S21 instead of S20? 🤔
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S21 actually, name fixed, was so fixated on S20 lol
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post Jan 27 2021, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(Pyjamas999 @ Jan 27 2021, 04:57 PM)
Hi guys, did anyone apart from me pre-order from Courts online store? I'm wondering why it has never been mentioned here lol.

They still have plenty of S21 Ultra stocks both black and silver, and theres 8% off promo currently. So I managed to get one 256gb for just RM4875

Am I missing something? Or are there much better offers which I don't know about from other stores
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Woah, thanks for sharing ohmy.gif
I can say that you won't be able to get the free ANC Type-C Earphone, but the extra RM420 discount is much more worth it IMO. ANC Type-C Earphone worth RM 299
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post Jan 27 2021, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(joey @ Jan 27 2021, 05:48 PM)
anyone test trio wireless charge?my got problem charging bud pro at right side but left and center can charge.
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Right side is only dedicated for smartwatches laugh.gif
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post Jan 27 2021, 06:11 PM

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QUOTE(Pyjamas999 @ Jan 27 2021, 06:02 PM)
Haha the ANC type-C earphone would be useless to me anyway. Already got wireless earbuds so it'll just be something I'll need to sell off.

Feels good to get RM424 off right away!
And Courts just contacted me biggrin.gif they'll be sending the phone over tomorrow
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I almost plan to preorder on Samsung Experience Store this morning but I procrastinated. Then your post arrived, luckily I have not place my order yet. Now to enjoy that sweet discount happy.gif
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post Jan 27 2021, 06:16 PM

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QUOTE(terrytay2009 @ Jan 27 2021, 06:13 PM)
Where to see the full list? the website doesnt show.
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It is listed under T&C

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